Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #21

[SouthAussie]

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This map shows the distances from Australia.

The search area and the points at which the signals were detected.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/22445448/mh370-search-australian-ship-ocean-shield-detects-signals/

 

[aa9511]

Have picked up the pings twice, and when it's picked up the 3rd time, an underwater drone will be placed to try to see it. Said he didn't know of any thing else that would make the same signal, but will not say it is the black boxes without seeing them.

I guess they couldn't put the underwater drone in there during the 2 hours they were hearing it? Not sure how all of this works, but guess that wasn't possible. Or maybe it would have required OS to turn around.

 

[JerseyGirl]

I find it interesting also that Singapore has now offered assistance (((gee a bit late to the game)))

Singapore participated in the SAR (search and rescue) in the South China Sea and the Strait of Malacca. They are now ready to help Malaysia in the next phase of the investigation.

Najib thanked Lee for Singapore's assistance, saying the republic was one of the first countries in the region to have provided prompt aid.

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...-pm-expresses-sympathy-1.554311#ixzz2yD1ZWMrm

 

[aa9511]

Oh gosh Oscar Pistorius took the stand...how am I gonna make time for that?

 

[Elley Mae]

I don't know alot about this but I do know that the less traffic (boats,planes) in the area the better. While the vessel that is pulling the TPL the people on the vessel have to be quiet, it's also the reason why the vessel pulling it can only go so fast, to keep the engines noise as quiet as possible. It is tedious work to say the least. I can't imagine being on that vessel for hours and hours and having to be quiet like that, I would go bonkers for sure. jmo idk

 

[aa9511]

I haven't said this in a long while, but this seems like it could really be it this time. Anybody agree?

Yes, I agree. And Ocean Shield first heard the pings on Saturday. Mr. Houston said that during his press conference about the Chinese pings. So surely they started investigating these pings on Saturday starting from whenever she first heard the pings. Then almost 24 hours later, he made the next press conference announcing this new ping developments from Ocean Shield. So that's 24 hours they had been investigating the pings already.

I am very, very hopeful and optimistic about this latest information. I think we can all see that this has solid support, especially from the fact that the sounds were heard for 2 hours!!!

 

[aa9511]

I just heard of 2 ships getting two different pings. One is 300 miles from the other. By now if the plane did crash things should begin to float. I realize that the ocean is ruff and it's hard to see things with the white caps, but I still feel something should have shown up. Time is of the essence here. I don't understand why a piece of luggage or a seat or something hasn't been spotted. I know the Indian Ocean is enormous. They have been able to lock the area to a smaller vector. I just hope they find this soon because if the battery to the black box runs out we will never have a clue as to what happened. I can't stop thinking about the families who will never have an answer. I saw this one lady walk out from the meeting where she was told that the flight ended in the Indian Ocean. She was crying and so upset she couldn't walk, then she explained she lost her son, daughter in law and two grandchildren. To think there are hundreds of stories we still haven't heard. This is just a horrific story.

I'm getting more and more of a feeling that the plane went into the water mostly intact and just sunk in. I don't even know if that's possible, but that's what I'm starting to think. It would have had to have glided down, piloted, to do that, though, from what I've read.

Of course, could be that the debris field is just in an area that hasn't been searched yet.

JMO.

 

[aa9511]

A 747 cargo jet crashed when the cargo came loose, shifted, changing the center of gravity quickly. It was caught on a camra in a car................

Camera capture Boeing 747 crash in Bagram - Bagram 747 crash - YouTube

Omg that is so sad.

 

[Elley Mae]

Houston on Sunday said he was comfortable with the level of cooperation between search countries, following criticism that Australia only became aware of the Chinese find at the same time as the Xinhua state news agency filed a story from a reporter on board the Haixun.

"I'm very satisfied with the consultation, the coordination that we are building with our Chinese friends," Houston said.

However, he added that language was sometimes an issue and he had arranged for a Chinese liaison officer to join the Australian-led coordination center.

Malaysian authorities have faced heavy criticism, particularly from China, for mismanaging the search and holding back information. Most of the 227 passengers were Chinese.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/07/us-malaysia-airlines-idUSBREA3308J20140407

bbm

 

[aa9511]

HOw old are you! If your up there in age you may never see that day!!!

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Suthrnqt]

35 MINS AGO
UPDATE
Malaysia Not Declaring Airplane Lost Yet
By Jason Ng, Gaurav Raghuvanshi and Richard C. Paddock

As ships search for the flight recorders from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said Monday that his country isn’t ready to declare the plane lost.

Mr. Hishammuddin, who is also acting minister of transport, told a news conference that Malaysia will consult with all investigating agencies and foreign governments on when to declare the Boeing 777-200 lost with no survivors so relatives can start accessing the bank accounts of the missing passengers and crew and begin to submit insurance claims.

http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/SS-2-475558/SS-2-501810/

Here we go again....smh

 

[Intermezzo]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...am-hears-pings-consistent-with-black-box.html

The Ocean Shield will stay in the area trying to refine the location of the beacons and has an underwater vehicle ready to be launched once the search zone is narrowed down, Houston said. The depth in the area exceeds is about 4,500 meters (14,800 feet), and extends down to more than 5,000 meters in parts, Houston said.

 

[aa9511]

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Looks like both sets of signals are along the southern arc ....

This image shows where two pings possibly from MH370 were detected along a tract where the plane is believed to have crashed into the ocean. Photo: Supplied

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/22445448/mh370-search-australian-ship-ocean-shield-detects-signals/


(Notice that the arc is called Satellite Handshake Calculation #7 ! )

IF and still IF, this is the location of the plane - does anyone else think it looks like the plane was headed straight for Australia???

IMO it looks to me like the person piloting the plane put in some coordinates in Australia as the "end point" when setting up auto-pilot.

I have had this thought that's in the back of my mind - what if the intended target was somewhere along the coast of Australia....but perhaps for some reason or another, the plane used up more fuel than the person thought that it would. So therefore, the plane ran out of fuel before the intended action.

JMO.

 

[SouthAussie]

IF and still IF, this is the location of the plane - does anyone else think it looks like the plane was headed straight for Australia???

IMO it looks to me like the person piloting the plane put in some coordinates in Australia as the "end point" when setting up auto-pilot.

I have had this thought that's in the back of my mind - what if the intended target was somewhere along the coast of Australia....but perhaps for some reason or another, the plane used up more fuel than the person thought that it would. So therefore, the plane ran out of fuel before the intended action.

JMO.

Yes, I think that is a significant concern. I think we're just not publicly speaking of it, till we know where the plane is ... and what is on those flight recorders.

 

[JerseyGirl]

And the wheels are now fully in motion to fly the relatives to Perth, maybe in the coming days. The Malaysians are compiling a list of the next of kin. Again, a demonstration of how seriously this news is being treated.

http://www.jackbristol.com/news/international-news/china-trying-to-scoop-malaysia-in-mh370-race/

 

[aa9511]

Yes, I think that is a significant concern. I think we're just not publicly speaking of it, till we know where the plane is ... and what is on those flight recorders.

Scary thought. It's just that, why even go that direction, YKWIM? If goal was to just lose the plane, why not set the destination as some coordinates in Antarctica or something? Knowing it would run out of fuel on the way anyway? That would have taken it more along straight path South, instead of looking like it was headed towards Australia.

Makes no sense.

 

[SouthAussie]

Scary thought. It's just that, why even go that direction, YKWIM? If goal was to just lose the plane, why not set the destination as some coordinates in Antarctica or something? Knowing it would run out of fuel on the way anyway? That would have taken it more along straight path South, instead of looking like it was headed towards Australia.

Makes no sense.

I don't think the reasons would be good ones .. we have installations near that coastline. IF it was headed our way.

 

[Spellbound]

I'm getting more and more of a feeling that the plane went into the water mostly intact and just sunk in. I don't even know if that's possible, but that's what I'm starting to think. It would have had to have glided down, piloted, to do that, though, from what I've read.

Of course, could be that the debris field is just in an area that hasn't been searched yet.

JMO.

I have had a similar thought as to why there isn't a sign of debris anywhere if it went into the ocean. Could it possibly just sink whole? If so and it does get found, at that depth would it even be possible to recover the plane and passengers?

 

[Suthrnqt]

Sydney Radio talkback station (2GB) aviation experts questioning how did the Chinese pinpoint the location and so quickly!!

I've been wondering the same. IF China pulls MH370 up first I'm hoping nothing is hidden from the world.

Hey clu, how ya doing?
This is the post I was responding to clu.
:noworries:

 

[Suthrnqt]

Yes, I think that is a significant concern. I think we're just not publicly speaking of it, till we know where the plane is ... and what is on those flight recorders.

Color me confused

If the intended target was Australia, God forbid, why was the flight arc in the opposite direction?
I too am hopeful that the crash site has been discovered.