Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #23

[ilovepierre]

At this point, we don't know where it is, so I will take any lead.

But, with that being said, I don't think Australia would waste resources if it isnt in S Indian ocean. Unless they were being led down the rose garden path.

Exactly. Australia seems pretty confident the plane is in the South Indian Ocean.
I'm confident it's there too.

 

[ilovepierre]

Ok, maybe i'm not understanding. Immarsat went by the last ping at 8:11am (what time zone?) ! wouldn't they take into account the speed and altitude to determine it's final resting place? The weight should be accurate, unless MAS did not provide accurate weight. :facepalm:

I'd like to find documentation on how they came to this conclusion.

Yes, I'd like to know that too!
Does anyone know what time zone the 8:11 am was in? Malaysian?

 

[ElleElle]

http://www.inmarsat.com/news/malaysian-government-publishes-mh370-details-uk-aaib/

Malaysia’s Ministry of Transport has published an article detailing how Inmarsat helped to pinpoint the southern corridor flight path taken by MH370.

Thanks Intermezzo, I did not know a "partial handshake" was even possible. Does that mean it pinged while going down?

 

[Amee]

Reposting link to transcripts of press conferences with Angus.

http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/interviews/2014/index.aspx

 

[ElleElle]

Interesting that GeoResonance is an Australian firm.

 

[LambChop]

Yes, I'd like to know that too!
Does anyone know what time zone the 8:11 am was in? Malaysian?

Not sure, but I believe the 8:11 was in the time zone the aircraft was in at the time it stopped responding. It would have been 9:11 am in Malaysian time. How ironic?

 

[ilovepierre]

Thanks Intermezzo, I did not know a "partial handshake" was even possible. Does that mean it pinged while going down?

I wonder if it means it pinged shortly after 8:11...
8:11 was the last full ping. 9:11 would have been the next time a full ping should have occurred, but it didn't. So a "partial handshake" could mean a ping happened anytime between that 8:11 (the last known full ping) and 9:11 (the time the next full ping would have happened).

:dunno:

 

[Momoffourboys]

Not sure, but I believe the 8:11 was in the time zone the aircraft was in at the time it stopped responding. It would have been 9:11 am in Malaysian time. How ironic?

Took me a second..but...yikes. I don't like that irony.

 

[Amee]

Below is a timeline of the events that began with the jet’s departure from Kuala Lumpur en route to Beijing:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-01/timeline-of-malaysian-air-s-missing-flight-370.html

 

[Amee]

Yes, I'd like to know that too!
Does anyone know what time zone the 8:11 am was in? Malaysian?

8:11 a.m., Malaysia time

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...760d06-b43d-11e3-8cb6-284052554d74_story.html

 

[ElleElle]

Thanks amee for all the informative links.

 

[ElleElle]

Below is a timeline of the events that began with the jet’s departure from Kuala Lumpur en route to Beijing:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-01/timeline-of-malaysian-air-s-missing-flight-370.html

What bugs me the most is the 2 mins between ATC communication and ACARS turned off. :banghead:

 

[legalmania]

I can't believe that they still haven't found this plane or any pieces of it. I believe this is the first time they have lost an airliner passenger jet. I know that during WW2 they would lose planes but those were small planes that only fit one or two people and the technology back then was worlds apart from the technology we have today. I can't stop thinking about the family members, to not know where or what happened to your loved ones has to be pure hell. I really don't know if they are going to ever find this? They say everything happens for a reason, well I would really like to know the reason behind this? It's so sad.

 

[Intermezzo]

Thanks Intermezzo, I did not know a "partial handshake" was even possible. Does that mean it pinged while going down?

the last full handshake was at 8:11am
partial handshake was at 8:19am

some experts believe the partial handshake was when the plane ran out of fuel, turned upside down and went into the water

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...-may-lead-crews-to-the-missing-jets-location/ APRIL 7

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...370-flew-inverted-at-site-of-acoustic-signals APRIL 8

 

[Mountain Misst]

On checking the history of the website - georesonance.com:

The history of the company's website is here at archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20110128130011/http://georesonance.com/

Since 2011 the website promoted "holistic healing utilizing the vibrational qualities of various earth elements".
In 2013 it was then replaced with a placeholder page which is just like a bookmark and the current form of the website appeared only in April 2014 which means that it was resurrected after the MH370 disappearance.

It has not changed ownership - http://who.is/domain-history/georesonance.com

IMO GeoResonance may have checked known aircraft crash sites; possibly faked the images, looked there, found an aircraft not MH370 - they would be in the money as people might believe their claims...

 

[squeaky]

Malaysian authorities preparing to release their preliminary report any minute now. Reporters saying they expect to receive the report via e-mail and are frantically refreshing their inboxes. I imagine the first "official" link to the public will be via one of the two Twitter accounts used by Hishammuddin. These accounts have been used in the past for all "official" announcements and communication. He even does Q&A with Twitter users.

@HishammuddinH2O
@H2OComms

I wonder what their initial conclusion is? My bet is they think the pilot hijacked and stole the plane. Not sure how they hypothesize that he managed to spirit away so many hostages quietly...

 

[Mr. Noatak]

My opinions only, no facts here:

Regarding my post at: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241199&page=25 (post #616 on that thread page), I believe that this is the only remaining formally-unidentified piece of flotsam (discovered on a beach in the Maldives) recovered after the disappearance of MH-370.

In my opinion, this is an incompletely-assembled or incompletely-manufactured aircraft fire bottle that may predate the MH-370 flight. Logically, this mystery object is a single-squib bottle, meant for the cargo hold of some airplane. In my judgment, this object should have been immediately studied by competent authorities and dismissed. At the very least, the authorities should have ridiculed it. But there seems to be no official word or ridicule yet. What is the big deal about this seemingly-trivial aircraft fire bottle?

 

[SouthAussie]

Malaysian authorities preparing to release their preliminary report any minute now. Reporters saying they expect to receive the report via e-mail and are frantically refreshing their inboxes. I imagine the first "official" link to the public will be via one of the two Twitter accounts used by Hishammuddin. These accounts have been used in the past for all "official" announcements and communication. He even does Q&A with Twitter users.

@HishammuddinH2O
@H2OComms

I wonder what their initial conclusion is? My bet is they think the pilot hijacked and stole the plane. Not sure how they hypothesize that he managed to spirit away so many hostages quietly...

It doesn't sound as though it is going to be the exact report that was issued to the International Civil Aviation Organisation. :sigh:


"According to state news agency Bernama, Mr Hishammuddin said the report would be similar to the one forwarded to the International Civil Aviation Organisation."

http://www.smh.com.au/world/flight-...ssing-plane-20140501-zr2bz.html#ixzz30SY1KMO5

 

[LambChop]

This is a pilot's rumor blog where they are discussing the found container. Someone posted a diagram of a cargo fire extinguisher in their post. They aren't posting rumors but trying to dispel them.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-418.html

 

[ann-other]

Yet another claim to have found wreckage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...000-miles-search-zone-spotting-debris-painted

Mr Akers - who is referenced as an independent researcher with the National Maritime Museum - said he has now identified sections of the aircraft close to where Vietnam authorities received a report from oil workers who saw a plane burning coming out of the sky.