Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

[Boodles]

As others said, CNN reported that China released satellite images of debris in South China Sea, 3 large pieces, captured on satellite on Sunday. The guy on CNN is saying China would not release these pictures and this level of detail without being certain they are right. I agree.

(CNN) -- [Breaking news update at 4:31 p.m. ET]
(CNN) -- A Chinese satellite looking into the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 "observed a suspected crash area at sea," a Chinese agency said.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html

 

[Isabelle]

The Chinese had this information on Sunday Why the delay?!?!?!!?

Studying, verifying, collaborating. Possibly did not want to jump the gun!

 

[mck16]

Same location China reports? Or, are these the images they are referring to?

They are the same. CNN is showing them now.

 

[SilkySifaka]

On CNN just now, Chinese govt has released satellite images of debris field in south china sea. Big pieces. They gave coordinates. All experts say china would not have done so unless they vetted it. Images from Sunday

 

[Isabelle]

Those images of what could be the crash site: how far away is that debris in relation to where the plane went off radar? Is it near there or is it near the Malacca Strait or where the oil rig worker was located?

I don't know how to read/map long and lat coordinates.

Between Vietnam and Malaysia, near the 130am loss of contact.

 

[Leilei]

I knew y'all would be on top of the latest news. Watching CNN now. I hope this is it, so that they can start recovery.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Posting to say good afternoon (all the way from post 155!)

Peter Goetz, former NTSB Managing Director just spoke on CNN

One of his talking points was the radar track. He used the term primary return which, I guess, refers to the reported return noted while tracking using primary radar.
He went on to say that primary radar can't identify a specific aircraft. He said it only recognizes something showing up on the radar.

It was at about this point last night I left the discussion. Someone posted on the previous thread a remark pointing out this fact. When discussing this yesterday, since the authorities spoke as if indeed the plane had been tracked back in a westerly direction across Malaysia and to a nearby island in the Straits of Malacca, one would think it was safe to assume that the people heading the investigation had their ways (process of elimination or whatever) to determine that the information they put out had been verified as being true.

In other words, if the aircraft was unidentifiable, how many options would exist? (hope I'm making sense)

Today, Peter Goetz, informs that the investigation must study as many radar systems as possible and then make a determination and stick to that as to where to search.

He ended the segment saying, "Look inside the cockpit" and asked "What happened to turn off that transponder?".

Happy I helped to get nearer to solving this mystery today!

p.s. PG mentioned the Egyptians delegated authority to NTSB to investigate a crash. But that later they were sorry they had when the reason was determined to be pilot error. Pride may be the reason for not including outside sources to help with the actual investigation.

 

[ilovepierre]

Between Vietnam and Malaysia, near the 130am loss of contact.

So this could be the plane!!
lease:

 

[CARIIS]

So who operates ACARS? Is it Boeing, or is it a separate entity?

Apparently, I just learned this it is like an "option" when buying a car. The airline buying the aircraft can say yes I want to buy this option. I do not think ANY AMerican carrier turned it down but it make sense with a carrier with differnet money stuff!

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Studying, verifying, collaborating. Possibly did not want to jump the gun!

Yes, this.

Also, China may have given the intel to Malaysia already - thinking they would release it to the public. Moo


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[CARIIS]

As others said, CNN reported that China released satellite images of debris in South China Sea, 3 large pieces, captured on satellite on Sunday. The guy on CNN saying China would not release these pictures and this level of detail without being certain they are right. I agree.

(CNN) -- [Breaking news update at 4:31 p.m. ET]
(CNN) -- A Chinese satellite looking into the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 "observed a suspected crash area at sea," a Chinese agency said.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html

Sunday - why now?

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

If these images were from Sunday then the debris could be anywhere by now.

 

[Softail]

The aviation folks state by the time it was searched, any debris would have drifted away with the currents. if you look at this map- it is believable (to me) he saw "something"....

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=194391&filename=phpszxdZr.jpeg

I agree! If you click on the link above, you can see a larger version of this picture.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Chinese satellite images may show crash site (headline on CNN)

 

[Isabelle]

In some instances ones head the sand is functionial (!) but when your JOB is to be on the lookout for people who have bad intentions as it relates to speeding objects

Indeed I agree!

 

[momrids6]

So who operates ACARS? Is it Boeing, or is it a separate entity?

It is a separate entity/unit of airplane/data/ground transportation communication, provided by ARINC and others.

http://www.arinc.com/sectors/aviati...ercial_aviation/inflight_apps/deck/acars.html

 

[sherbetjello]

They are saying that the feet/length of this object is pretty consistent of a plane this size. When you measure all the pieces (3), one would suppose this the crash site.

1st object = 43 x 49 feet
2nd object = 46 x 62 feet
3rd object = 79 x 72 feet


http://www.dimensionsinfo.com/boeing-777-dimensions/

Its length is 242 ft 4 in with a wingspan of 199 ft 11 in.

The 777 300 possesses a tail 60 ft 8 in tall (18.5 m). The cabin width is 19 ft 3 in.

 

[ilovepierre]

Sunday - why now?

Isabelle posted a reason why a few posts ago: "Studying, verifying, collaborating. Possibly did not want to jump the gun!"

 

[Plumeria5]

From the article, looks like they have to go physically examine them. This debris is 121nm from last radar blip;
http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=194391&filename=phpszxdZr.jpeg

How long would it have taken to get from the "Alright, good night" point to this possible debris field 121 nm? Not very long, right? What could have gone so horribly wrong? That is off course isn't it? Shouldn't they have headed north before that point?

 

[sherbetjello]

This totally throws out the u-turn theory.