Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #4

[kimi_SFC]

Could someone move that map over here of the radius that plane could have flown?
I would but I am not that talented. How do you move something from another thread?

If you have a link or the post #, or remember who posted it, it will help narrow the search of Thread #1) and I can bring it over....

:seeya:

 

[MsFacetious]

Thank you for this MsF. I don't know if it's just me, but I am hitting a paywall again (2nd time when clicking a WSJ link :facepalm: ).

Would you be so kind as to relay the additional of the article?

I get the pay wall too, that's why I'm posting the tweets. :seeya:

 

[ElleElle]

The pilots can or do in Asia...

Can someone please post fact on whether or not pilots and smoking is allowed on flights. lease:

I don't think it's legal on any airline in the world, but I bet some airlines/pilots do.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Its looking more and more like hijack.

This is good news for the families.

I pray these people are OK.

The Australian govt told us a while ago the next terrorist attack was expected to be Malaysia.

They have a large Islamic community.

 

[MsFacetious]

Can someone please post fact on whether or not pilots and smoking is allowed on flights. lease:

I don't think it's legal on any airline in the wor;d, but I bet some airlines/pilots do.

(This is all I found in a quick search, believing Wiki or not is up to each of you.)

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflight_smoking"]Inflight smoking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[momrids6]

Flying at a lower altitude burns more fuel....

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=118812

 

[revampz]

I cant believe my theories have gone from:

a hijacking or terrorism attack by 2 guys with stolen passports, with luggage not removed from one of the five that checked in and didn't board, and by another using the chinese guys passport (that wasn't stolen but the no. used)

to the military shot it down when it turned around and flew over the Malacca straights

to a crash because of something to do with fuselage thing and the 8 villagers and/or oil rigger saw it going down and the chinese have pictures of the debris

to a Uigher electronics professor has somehow hijacked this plane using his electronics expertise, flown in under the radar, turned of the transponder and turned back and has flown somewhere for four hours....

beam me up scottie

 

[MsFacetious]

Newley Purnell ‏@newley 36s

Our latest: U.S. investigators think #MH370 stayed in the air about 4 hours past last confirmed location.

https://twitter.com/newley


For what it's worth this is the first "revelation" that has blown up like this on twitter. :twocents:

 

[Isabelle]

If this plane was hijacked and stolen, I hope passengers and crew are let go safely.

 

[ElleElle]

Could get it to Pakistan.

Key word: "Could".

I don't buy it. :shush:

 

[SapphireSteel]

Wonder if the additional engine time came from the Rolls Royce data?

Must've... I think that was the only info available.

If it flew 4 hours off radar that means it flew "under the radar" for the whole time which implies pilot cooperation, either forced or voluntary.

There is a good chance the passengers are all alive.

:moo:

 

[MsFacetious]

Flying at a lower altitude burns more fuel....

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=118812

We need someone to tell us how far 7 hours of fuel would get you flying below the radar. :twocents:

Maybe they still DID run out of fuel over the ocean... just 2200nm away!
Maybe 7 hours of fuel becomes 4 hours of fuel when you are flying that low.
We need to know that before we assume this means they didn't run out of fuel.

 

[Plumeria5]

If you have a link or the post #, or remember who posted it, it will help narrow the search of Thread #1) and I can bring it over....

:seeya:

It was your post! :blushing: Thread 2 #606.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Must've... I think that was the only info available.

If it flew 4 hours off radar that means it flew "under the radar" for the whole time which implies pilot cooperation, either forced or voluntary.

There is a good chance the passengers are all alive.

:moo:

Or it implies cooperation on the part of whatever country's air space it flew through.

 

[momrids6]

I cant believe my theories have gone from:

a hijacking or terrorism attack by 2 guys with stolen passports, with luggage not removed from one of the five that checked in and didn't board, and by another using the chinese guys passport (that wasn't stolen but the no. used)

to the military shot it down when it turned around and flew over the Malacca straights

to a crash because of something to do with fuselage thing and the 8 villagers and/or oil rigger saw it going down and the chinese have pictures of the debris

to a Uigher electronics professor has somehow hijacked this plane using his electronics expertise, flown in under the radar, turned of the transponder and turned back and has flown somewhere for four hours....

beam me up scottie

This all could have been avoided, imo

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Thank you for the correction. Looking at a map of the flight plan and the last confirmed location of the plane, it seems impossible for the 8 witnesses to have heard a noise related to the aircraft from such a distance unless the plane had turned back toward them at some point after disappearing from radar. But then noise travels at night so who knows. Didn't they say they heard the noise at 1:30? That wouldn't have left time for the plane to come back toward them.

No problem--it's really easy to get all these accounts and places confused, between the names, the reporting, and the unfamiliar region. I keep posting maps just to keep myself straight.

I don't remember reading what time they thought they heard the sound, sorry! I don't believe the plane circled back before they heard the sound, though that's just opinion at this point. (And I might not be up on the timeline, here.) But I keep leaning toward the idea that the military radar picked up some other plane, not the missing one. I guess that's because the military official who originally said their radar may have picked up the plane off the west coast seemed to backpedal a bit when next questioned about it, even to the point of putting out a press release correcting media accounts that said he said it definitely turned back.

 

[Isabelle]

Must've... I think that was the only info available.

If it flew 4 hours off radar that means it flew "under the radar" for the whole time which implies pilot cooperation, either forced or voluntary.

There is a good chance the passengers are all alive.

:moo:

If transponders are off, can radar still track the plane? I didn't think that could be done. During 9/11 transponders were off and towers had no idea where the planes were.

 

[bexlex]

Troy McCullough ‏@TroyWSJ 2m

Major breaking development: U.S. says #MH370 flight was airborne for hours after vanishing, according to engine data. http://on.wsj.com/1njf3mH

https://twitter.com/TroyWSJ

I've been out.... Does this mean we have some answers????

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say

U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details.

http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysi...od=wsj_streaming_malaysia-airlines-flight-370

Okayyy...

This has been running through my brain... so I am going to throw it out to you all...

Remember towards the very beginning... when we started these threads...

there was a story of the plane landing safely in China (I believe ?)... .. but the story was (of course) soon reported as being not true...

I am looking in my notes... but, dang, if I don't have it written down...:banghead:

Does anyone remember this?

Could there be some inkling of truth to it?

:dunno:

 

[ElleElle]

https://twitter.com/airwaysmagazine/status/443975515871772672/photo/1

"With the WSJ reporting #MH370 was in the air for 4 more hours, it could be anywhere in this circle. Via @petchmo pic.twitter.com/0ZSbWk1g7g"