Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #4

[Chilly Willy]

I personally think it's possible that they accidentally shut off the transponder when trying to send out an alert. :twocents:

My two theories are:

1. Hijacking to steal the plane and use it later. (No clue where they landed or where the passengers are.)

2. Decompression or a similar issue...
Pilots realize it and drop like a rock intentionally (oxygen masks won't drop till 13,000 feet.)
They get to 10,000 feet or whatever then hit the auto pilot and try to send a distress signal with the transponder.
But they are already disoriented and accidentally shut off the transponder then lose consciousness.
Then the plane flies on auto pilot until it runs out of fuel and crashes into the East China Sea or somewhere over there.

I am not sure which I'd prefer if I was a passenger on the plane...

Your second scenerio is possible but, again, the coincidence of the plane decompressing for some unknown reason that allowed the plane to keep flying for 4 more hours rather than crashing immediately into the ocen - during the brief moments before transferring between radars, it's just too much.

I think a hijacker had already taken control of the plane and intentionally turned off the transponder upon leaving Malaysian radar. I don't know enough about the politics of the region to know who or where they took the plane, but nothing else really makes sense to me.

 

[Soulmagent]

Ok, is this for real?

No sign of debris, and MH370 flew for at least 4 hours?

anic: :dunno:

Are they trying to keep us on our toes? 5 days now since MH370 has been missing.

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABREA2701720140313?sp=true

Its for real for right now. Later however it might not be.

I think a disclaimer should be issued with all media reports.

(disclaimer the above information is subject to change without warning or just cause)

 

[Montjoy]

Can someone please post fact on whether or not pilots and smoking is allowed on flights. lease:

I don't think it's legal on any airline in the world, but I bet some airlines/pilots do.

There are definitely pilots who smoke, but I have not encountered one who has smoked in flight in at least 15 years, and perhaps 200k miles of flights.

I think that the prohibition has less to do with airplane safety than it has to do with passenger comfort/health concerns. Were there some sort of a fuel leak, or a fuel vapor problem, there would be no shortage of electrical circuits to ignite the fuel.

Nowadays, any pilot with a compulsion to smoke could find some alternative -- nicotine gum, E-cigs, snuff, etc., and so my amateur opinion is that cigarettes have nothing to do with this (likely) disaster.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

According to flightradar ,IIRC the plane was going 531 miles per hour.

And this is where my nautical/aviationary skills are completely inadequate. I think nautical miles are measured in knots...and have no idea how many gallons of fuel a jet uses up at 531 mph.

ElleElle, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to smoke in the cockpit of major airliners, even though some rare pilots I suppose might break that law. But if you're asking about smoking regarding the cockpit fire that pilots have been discussing, I get the impression it's been discussed by the professionals due to some history or electrical weakness with this particular model of airplane in the cockpit that could cause this, not due to pilots smoking. (If that helps.)

 

[MsFacetious]

Your second scenerio is possible but, again, the coincidence of the plane decompressing for some unknown reason that allowed the plane to keep flying for 4 more hours rather than crashing immediately into the ocen - during the brief moments before transferring between radars, it's just too much.

I think a hijacker had already taken control of the plane and intentionally turned off the transponder upon leaving Malaysian radar. I don't know enough about the politics of the region to know who or where they took the plane, but nothing else really makes sense to me.

And yet to me it's just too much trying to figure out what they did with the passengers if they stole the plane...
Someone suggested the ocean.... but that'd be tough to do with 239 people! :scared:

Fact is that NO scenario perfectly fits everything and odds are it isn't going to make perfect sense. :twocents:

 

[momrids6]

nothing at Chinese sat site


http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[Derryn Hunch]

All you guys going to <modsnip>because the guy played flight sim at home - you need to realize its not uncommon for pilots to have their own simulators at home.


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=home 737 cockpit&sm=1








This setup was nothing compared to what myself and others have got....

 

[Linda7NJ]

And yet to me it's just too much trying to figure out what they did with the passengers if they stole the plane...

Someone suggested the ocean.... but that'd be tough to do with 239 people! :scared:



Fact is that NO scenario perfectly fits everything and odds are it isn't going to make perfect sense. :twocents:

Aliens... Extraterrestrial kind ....

Ducking...

Well? Every other possible scenario was already taken...shrug.

Honestly, I think some government inadvertently shot it down...

All IMO


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[MsFacetious]

Just for the record I do not suspect the pilot at all even if the plane was stolen. :seeya:

All you guys going to <modsnip> because the guy played flight sim at home - you need to realize its not uncommon for pilots to have their own simulators at home.


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=home 737 cockpit&sm=1








This setup was nothing compared to what myself and others have got....

 

[Brightbird]

7 virgins are waiting for him in heaven.:scared:

I get the feeling some people would be delighted if this turns out to be an Islamic terrorist act. Pretty sad, really.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Reports that they haven't found the wreckage aren't really surprising considering that, although searchers have the exact coordinates, those were from a photo taken almost 3-4 days ago. Whatever was in that still photo has long since shifted with ocean currents. The only help such a debris field will give 3-4 days after the fact is if there is more debris from that area that sunk the to the ocean floor (engines, and other heavier aircraft debris).

 

[ElleElle]

There are definitely pilots who smoke, but I have not encountered one who has smoked in flight in at least 15 years, and perhaps 200k miles of flights.

I think that the prohibition has less to do with airplane safety than it has to do with passenger comfort/health concerns. Were there some sort of a fuel leak, or a fuel vapor problem, there would be no shortage of electrical circuits to ignite the fuel.

Nowadays, any pilot with a compulsion to smoke could find some alternative -- nicotine gum, E-cigs, snuff, etc., and so my amateur opinion is that cigarettes have nothing to do with this (likely) disaster.

And this is where my nautical/aviationary skills are completely inadequate. I think nautical miles are measured in knots...and have no idea how many gallons of fuel a jet uses up at 531 mph.

ElleElle, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to smoke in the cockpit of major airliners, even though some rare pilots I suppose might break that law. But if you're asking about smoking regarding the cockpit fire that pilots have been discussing, I get the impression it's been discussed by the professionals due to some history or electrical weakness with this particular model of airplane in the cockpit that could cause this, not due to pilots smoking. (If that helps.)

Thanks! :seeya: I guess I just picture cockpit crew smoking cigarettes and a real fire starting and no one noticing the cabin fire/smoke because of cigarette smoke overwhelming it.

Crazy thoughts as usual. :scared:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Troy McCullough &#8207;@TroyWSJ 2m



Major breaking development: U.S. says #MH370 flight was airborne for hours after vanishing, according to engine data. http://on.wsj.com/1njf3mH



https://twitter.com/TroyWSJ

How can that be?


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[LaborDayRN]

All you guys going to <modsnip> because the guy played flight sim at home - you need to realize its not uncommon for pilots to have their own simulators at home.


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=home 737 cockpit&sm=1








This setup was nothing compared to what myself and others have got....

Thanks Derryn. Honestly, for all we know he was a hero who kept the plane in the air. He also has family suffering and waiting for news. I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that any of the flight crew was to blame. We really need more information and hopefully it will be forthcoming.

 

[sherbetjello]

If North Korea had this plane, first and foremost, it would have been detected as an extra flight into the country, wouldn't it? It is a commercial aircraft.


And, anyone familiar with North Korea, you really think they would hold a plane, a commercial airliner, for almost a week without demands? Pakistan as well? Or any country labeled as the boogieman?

Think about it. Demands would have been made. Publicly, and loudly, demands would have been publicized.

Question really is, do countries in the search efforts know this? Could that be why all the media on the search efforts so, for a lack of a better word, confused?

 

[revampz]

All you guys going to <modsnip> because the guy played flight sim at home - you need to realize its not uncommon for pilots to have their own simulators at home.


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=home 737 cockpit&sm=1








This setup was nothing compared to what myself and others have got....

Nah, at the moment, and may I add, at the moment I suspect the Chinese Uigher man who was on the plane that is a professor of Electronics.....as one of them anyhow.

 

[MsFacetious]

Jason Ng &#8207;@ByJasonNg 3m

EXCLUSIVE: Malaysian Airline flight #MH370 suspected to have flown on for 5 hours after radar disappearance

Jason Ng &#8207;@ByJasonNg 1m

Flight #MH370 may have flown on for five hours -- could reach as far as India-Pakistan border

https://twitter.com/ByJasonNg

 

[CHERIE.T]

Imhoo we --the world--are being fed a lot of bs.
I think this plane was boarded by terrorist who blew it into smithereens. I don't think there's anything to be found....no plane debris, no passengers, no crew, no blackbox...nothin.


I do however LOVE reading everyone's thoughts, theories and post. YA'll rock.
:thewave:

 

[Chilly Willy]

And yet to me it's just too much trying to figure out what they did with the passengers if they stole the plane...
Someone suggested the ocean.... but that'd be tough to do with 239 people! :scared:

Fact is that NO scenario perfectly fits everything and odds are it isn't going to make perfect sense. :twocents:

Why do you think they did anything with the passengers while they were still aboard the plane? Many planes have been hijacked and landed with the passengers still aboard.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I don't think it was an act of terrorism.


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