Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #5

[Chilly Willy]

That's a nice thought. Based on what I see.... there are no survivors. :twocents:

Sadly, I agree. The evidence we have so far seems to point to a hijacking that crashed in the ocean. If that is what happened, no one would have survived. I'm just saying that the lack of phone calls is not a factor either way.

 

[MsFacetious]

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 42s

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[IHAVENOCLUE]

Uhm. Is my brain mush? I don't understand. Did a passenger allegedly call a family member from a US number?


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Good question...

I hope someone can explain the significance of this...

and why it made the news?

:waitasec:

 

[Soulmagent]

oh I get it, they're calling their loved ones on the plane and think it's ringing but the calls were set up to be diverted to another number which is why it rang, makes sense

Could it be an american needed a forgein number in that part of the world and diverted the american line to the foreign number or vice versa. 20 people from a texas based plant who were techie's

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Good question...

I hope someone can explain the significance of this...

and why it made the news?

:waitasec:

Could it be that a family member tried to call a passengers mobile, tried with international codes or misdialled a number, and that number (similar to the passengers number) called them back later, thus causing the family member to think the passenger had attempted to call them?

 

[Tssiemer]

Could it be an american needed a forgein number in that part of the world and diverted the american line to the foreign number or vice versa. 20 people from a texas based plant who were techie's

But they were from China.


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[Tssiemer]

Could it be that a family member tried to call a passengers mobile, tried with international codes or misdialled a number, and that number (similar to the passengers number) called them back later, thus causing the family member to think the passenger had attempted to call them?

Maybe. I don't want to believe someone in the US would deliberately do this to make the family think they are alive.


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[Softail]

Sadly, I agree. The evidence we have so far seems to point to a hijacking that crashed in the ocean. If that is what happened, no one would have survived. I'm just saying that the lack of phone calls is not a factor either way.

Gotcha! :thumb: I totally agree it was a hijack that crashed in the Indian Ocean. I was just thinking that was a reason.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Maybe. I don't want to believe someone in the US would deliberately do this to make the family think they are alive.


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Me neither. It shouldn't even be possible but who knows in this day and age.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

If the plane was hijacked and landed safely somewhere...the lives of the passengers and crew would depend on the reason behind taking the plane. There is a very remote chance they could still be alive.

Why would someone hijack a plane, fly a considerable distance (which would not be necessary) then crash it into the ocean without taking responsibility?

 

[alreetlike]

Thinking no survivors and no hope.. but then I always was a pessimist.

 

[Soulmagent]

But they were from China.


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There were also 3 Americans on the flight.

They could have traveled to the states and used an American number while here.. I am just trying to guess at why the call was diverted . I am sure there is a logical reason for it.

 

[JerseyGirl]

After the plane last pinged at 2:15am, it continued flying for 4 or more hours.

I don't think it crashed. What's the point of hijacking it?

 

[dotr]

Thinking that if huge ships can be pirated, then so can planes, imo.
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http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABREA2701720140314

"Two sources told Reuters that military radar data showed an unidentified aircraft that investigators suspect was Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 following a commonly used navigational route toward the Middle East and Europe when it was last spotted early on March 8, northwest of Malaysia.

That course - headed into the Andaman Sea and towards the Bay of Bengal in the Indian Ocean - could only have been set deliberately, either by flying the Boeing 777-200ER jet manually or by programming the auto-pilot.

A third source familiar with the investigation said inquiries were focusing more on the theory that someone with knowledge of navigational waypoints - used by airlines to track established commercial flight paths - had diverted the flight off its scheduled course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

"What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards," said the source, a senior Malaysian police official.

A U.S. source familiar with the investigation said there was also discussion within the U.S. government that the plane's disappearance might have involved an act of piracy."

 

[Soulmagent]

Maybe. I don't want to believe someone in the US would deliberately do this to make the family think they are alive.


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I dont either but if a plane was hi jacked ,the high jacker would take the cell phones . If a person had 2 phones maybe it was not caught. (not that I think that happened but really who knows at this point.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

There were also 3 Americans on the flight.

They could have traveled to the states and used an American number while here.. I am just trying to guess at why the call was diverted . I am sure there is a logical reason for it.

My guess is someone used one of those sites where you can put in any number to show up on the caller ID, but the caller was really from the US pretending to be their loved one. A cruel and vicious hoax from a horrible troll. (Unless I am totally off base and misunderstood the whole phone call thing.)

 

[MsFacetious]

There were also 3 Americans on the flight.

They could have traveled to the states and used an American number while here.. I am just trying to guess at why the call was diverted . I am sure there is a logical reason for it.

Only ONE American was an adult, the other 2 were toddlers.
(The toddlers family was also on the plane and likely lived here, even though they are listed as Chinese.)

If the plane was hijacked and landed safely somewhere...the lives of the passengers and crew would depend on the reason behind taking the plane. There is a very remote chance they could still be alive.

Why would someone hijack a plane, fly a considerable distance (which would not be necessary) then crash it into the ocean without taking responsibility?

If going into the ocean was not the plan they wouldn't take credit for it... it would have failed.

 

[Softail]

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 42s

WSJ ANALYSIS: Expert Was Needed to Disable Plane Systems

http://online.wsj.com/news/article_...4579439653701712312-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwNDExNDQyWj


Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 14m

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Probe Sharpens Focus on Sabotage
http://online.wsj.com/news/article_...4579439403486098062-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwNDExNDQyWj … #MH370

From the link:

Still, as details emerge an accident appears increasingly unlikely. The first loss of the jet's transponder, which communicates the jet's position, speed and call sign to air traffic control radar, would require disabling a circuit breaker above and behind an overhead panel. Pilots rarely, if ever, need to access the circuit breakers, which are reserved for maintenance personnel

"Everything so far makes it see as though someone was controlling the airplane" and attempting to fly it somewhere other than its intended destination, said Robert Francis, another former NTSB member. The longer the search goes on, he said, the less it seems to be "what you would expect from a civil-aviation aircraft in trouble."

 

[Chilly Willy]

After the plane last pinged at 2:15am, it continued flying for 4 or more hours.

I don't think it crashed. What's the point of hijacking it?

If it did crash, I don't think it was a deliberate act by the hijackers. It could have been an attempt by the crew and/or passengers either to regain control of the plane or to take it down before it arrived at it's intended location or target.

 

[Soulmagent]

Sadly, I agree. The evidence we have so far seems to point to a hijacking that crashed in the ocean. If that is what happened, no one would have survived. I'm just saying that the lack of phone calls is not a factor either way.

What evidence of a crash?

I might have missed it.