Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #7

[Derryn Hunch]

Thanks Derryn. And who in the crew knows that code. Pilots obviously and would have to be other crew as well. Is each plane a different code? Just one more question, is there a jump seat in that plane in the cockpit?

I am not sure if it's one code for all Malaysian Airlines fleet or type or individual aircraft sorry - when I flew jumpseat with Malaysian Airlines this year, I was let into the cockpit each time by the pilots from inside the cockpit. I was invited by the pilots to fly up there during the flight from just after takeoff. The 777-200 has two jumpseats.

 

[1&2&3]

Originally Posted by gregjrichards
what do you guys think of flyingwithfish's tweets he seems to have good contacts and thinks the aircraft was transporting something important, that the plane may have flown to Iran and China may be involved in what has happened?

He was the guy who reported about the banned batteries being in the cargo and the cargo was not scanned.

https://twitter.com/flyingwithfish

There is great information on this tweet! Wow, after so many days of unanswered questions, theories all over the place, this tweet has some tweets that make sense IMO!

Personally, I believe this plane landed. I hope it was not a practice run for something bigger that is planned!

 

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Bob Woodruff ‏@BobWoodruff https://twitter.com/BobWoodruff

Pilot Capt Zahairi Ahmad Shah's flight simulator being examined. Investigators studying two laptops found in his gated community home @ABC

 

[What'sThatClue]

Originally Posted by gregjrichards
what do you guys think of flyingwithfish's tweets he seems to have good contacts and thinks the aircraft was transporting something important, that the plane may have flown to Iran and China may be involved in what has happened?

He was the guy who reported about the banned batteries being in the cargo and the cargo was not scanned.

https://twitter.com/flyingwithfish

There is great information on this tweet! Wow, after so many days of unanswered questions, theories all over the place, this tweet has some tweets that make sense IMO!

Personally, I believe this plane landed. I hope it was not a practice run for something bigger that is planned!

Problem is, @flyingwithfish is not MSM.

But yes, I've been following him for days now.

 

[John51]

:floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh:

At least this lighten up the mood a little!!!

Kevin Sieff ‏@ksieff https://twitter.com/ksieff

Senior Afghan official on whether #MH370 flew over Afghanistan: "We do not have a radar. Go and ask the Americans."

 

[Derryn Hunch]

lol @ the above

 

[revampz]

Wow there is a LOT of information at this link.

http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/tr...mid-hijack-fears/story-fnizu68q-1226856077160

After raiding the homes of the Captain and co-pilots of the missing plane, Malaysia’s Transport Ministry said that they were examining an elaborate flight simulator taken from the home of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah.

They took two laptops last week and have been examining them. One of them had information from the simulator.

A statement also said they were investigating engineers who may have had contact with the plane before it took off.


Meanwhile, British media are speculating the plane’s disappearance could also be linked to al-Qaeda. It comes after al-Qaeda informant Saajid Badat, a British-born Muslim from Gloucester, told a court that a group of Malaysian men had been planning to take control of a plane, using a bomb hidden in a shoe to blow open the cockpit door. Security experts said his evidence was “credible”.

It's worth clicking and reading - I had to cut a heap of it to keep to the 10% rule. There's a lot more at the link.

I read about the informant saying about the shoe bomb this afternoon, but not about the engineers....

holy dooly...

After this, the things that most of us normal little folk don't know about that is going on out there with terrorist groups and the likes is very unnerving....

Also with regards to them checking out airstrips where this plane could have landed - they don't seem to be searching the ocean as much, didn't India halt their search and rescue.........and they seem to be REALLY going into looking on land. I am wondering if they do in fact know a bit more about why they think this plane has landed on land.

 

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Bob Woodruff ‏@BobWoodruff https://twitter.com/BobWoodruff

#Flight370 pilot Zahairi friend Peter Chong says Capt considered tech geek-friends could use his simulator @abc pic.twitter.com/IBPfsZuigc

 

[Softail]

7th Fleet Facebook. The 2 videos on the left, give some perspective on just how vast the ocean is. The second video, they seem to see some debris, which apparently turned out to be nothing. :sigh:

https://www.facebook.com/7thfleet

 

[popsicle]

Bob Woodruff ‏@BobWoodruff 1m https://twitter.com/BobWoodruff

Simulator owned by #Flight370 pilot captain Zahairi Ahmad Shah who often invited others to use it for fun. @ABC pic.twitter.com/caNc57FyFp

 

[popsicle]

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 1h

Malaysian authorities: Not yet got replies on background checks of all passengers. But some foreign intelligence agencies have cleared all.

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 1h

Malaysian authorities: No demands of any sort made; therefore, we’ve kept all possibilities open as part of our investigation. #MH370

CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 1h

Malaysian authorities: We examined the cargo manifest and it carried no hazardous goods. #MH370

https://twitter.com/cctvnews

 

[Derryn Hunch]

Rightio - nearly 11:00pm here on the east coast of the land down under, 9:00pm in KL, Malaysia. I am off to bed, hopefully tomorrow will bring some more solid news!

 

[revampz]

Re: Jump seat. I was a travel Agent from the late 80's to 2000. Back in the 80s and 90s we used to get very very cheap tickets, but the condition was that we had to wait until everyone was boarded and if there were any seats left we could have them.....you'd have to run to make the plane...if there wasn't then tough luck, you got stuck wherever you were. Quite often you'd end up in the jumps seat. I bet they put a stop on that!!!

I was thinking that maybe someone else got into the cockpit and had a gun at the pilots head and was forcing them to fly, and it may be the reason the flight went up and then down....maybe there was a scuffle etc.....just thinking aloud...

However we have now heard that the ACARS system was switched of BEFORE they said all right, good night. It just doesn't seem to add up that it was someone else in there..it seemed to all go skewiff once they left the Malaysian airspace...in other words they turned off the ACARS system, all was calm, they said goodnight and then all hell broke loose not long after...

I am sorry but this makes it look worse for the pilots...

Can anyone think of a reason that they may wait until they are to be switched to Vietnamese ATC before putting any plan into place??

 

[popsicle]

Retweeted by Gloria Riviera https://twitter.com/griviera
George Chen ‏@george_chen 4h

China CCTV: 1 #MH370 passenger background is "suspicious"- born in China, educated in Turkey, had air engine training pic.twitter.com/MzdY6dtuu1

 

[John51]

Re: Jump seat. I was a travel Agent from the late 80's to 2000. Back in the 80s and 90s we used to get very very cheap tickets, but the condition was that we had to wait until everyone was boarded and if there were any seats left we could have them.....you'd have to run to make the plane...if there wasn't then tough luck, you got stuck wherever you were. Quite often you'd end up in the jumps seat. I bet they put a stop on that!!!

I was thinking that maybe someone else got into the cockpit and had a gun at the pilots head and was forcing them to fly, and it may be the reason the flight went up and then down....maybe there was a scuffle etc.....just thinking aloud...

However we have now heard that the ACARS system was switched of BEFORE they said all right, good night. It just doesn't seem to add up that it was someone else in there..it seemed to all go skewiff once they left the Malaysian airspace...in other words they turned off the ACARS system, all was calm, they said goodnight and then all hell broke loose not long after...

I am sorry but this makes it look worse for the pilots...

Can anyone think of a reason that they may wait until they are to be switched to Vietnamese ATC before putting any plan into place??

BBM: Perhaps to buy time, if they did it after entering Vietnam ATC then immediately the ATC will raise an alarm.

The way it was done there is this gap in between the two ATC, KL thinks Vietnam has it, Vietnam tried in vain to contact. Then only they inform KL ATC, by that time the plane would already turned back and flown a few hundreds of miles before everyone figured out what was happening.

It looks ominously that the planning for this was very meticulous to say the least.

JMO

 

[Lola68]

I find it interesting the pilot's wife and children moved out the day before this happened it seems the pilot may have been suffering a personal crisis.

Has this been reported anywhere else? (Daily Mirror not the most reliable of sources). I hadn't heard this before but it does place more suspicion on the captain if true.

 

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Jason Ng ‏@ByJasonNg 3m https://twitter.com/ByJasonNg

Search for #MH370 now covers territories across 11 countries, remote oceans. Live Update: http://on.wsj.com/1lewu2Z

 

[popsicle]

Has this been reported anywhere else? (Daily Mirror not the most reliable of sources). I hadn't heard this before but it does place more suspicion on the captain if true.

Someone posted another link to the story last night, however I do not have the link. It sounded like they have 2 homes though. jmo

 

[Softail]

Has this been reported anywhere else? (Daily Mirror not the most reliable of sources). I hadn't heard this before but it does place more suspicion on the captain if true.

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[Intermezzo]

good morning all
so nothing of great importance has been reported.? haven't located the plane or any debris?
Time to make Espresso
I may have to pull out my Big guy...the 18 cup Bialetti