Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #7

[TTF14]

As discussed yesterday, I do not feel the pilot had any intentions to harming all onboard.

If this is in fact pilot hijacking (air piracy), I believe they are safe and sound in an undisclosed location.

He may be trying to prove a point without causing harm, except the worrying the loved ones are feeling.

BBM. Like how outrageously lax Malaysia is with aviation security? Was this guy disgruntled or anything at his job?

 

[Harmony 2]

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[ElleElle]

Yes, there was a press conference. Lots and lots of questions from various reporters. Many questions and the answers to them were not in English.

Not much new. They took the Pilot's flight simulator from his house and are reassembling it at a police location and will study it.

Said the wife and children did not move out of house. Said they are still reassessing search assets and working on coming up with a plan for further searching. They thanked all the nations (25 of them now) who are helping in the search.

They confirmed that the transponder was turned off prior to someone saying the "Allright, good night". They said they need any radar or satellite data that anyone has that could help them. They said there has been no ransom demand or any other kind of demand.

There were four men who answered questions. I do not know who they were. Three in shirtsleeves, one in a military uniform. Ministers of this and that.
The main guy was pretty good. He came across as a good spokesperson. The military guy came across as haughty, literally with chin jutting out and "looking down his nose" at the audience. He did later loosen up a bit in his bearing.

Apparently a question was asked and the answer given was words to the effect of "We don't know, go ask the Americans". I would suspect that was the military guy.

It is obvious the Malaysians are uncomfortable with the idea of "transparency", but it did appear during this press conference that they are trying.

BBM 1~ That seems like quite a bit since we can rule out the wife and kids moving out and the "all right, goodnight" was said after the transponders were switched off.

BBM 2~ Yes, come on Americans, don't you have all the answers yet? :floorlaugh: *sarcasm*

 

[Nana]

The FBI? NTSB? Malaysia is not the United States. While I don't believe M has been competent in the investigation, this is another country. We cannot just go in and take control.

BBM
25 countries and WE need to do this? :banghead:

 

[Skittles]

No! I don't remember that Hawaiian flight...don't tell me anymore tho... I don't want to know



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Well, then you want to avoid the TV movie "Miracle Landing" which is based on this flight. Pops up on cable occasionally. It's Aloha Air flight 243.

 

[lawstudent]

but suicide bombers are excluded from that. they have their own special verses. jmo

Regardless of what some sects of Islam believe, the government of Malaysia is not going to want to say a pilot committed suicide and killed a bunch of civilians. Most Malaysians are not jihadists, it would outrage the international community, and it looks bad for Malaysia economically and just all around. That many of its own citizens dying would never be a justifiable source of pride, especially because if it was suicide, this particular crash doesn't seem to do much to advance any jihadist cause, so it would be a result of the pilot snapping.


Re: land searches. I believe they are conducting them, but they aren't going to tell us that, because it involves spying on other places.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Thank you for the new forum. Is it possible to start a thread specifically for the tomnod stuff?

 

[lawstudent]

BBM
25 countries and WE need to do this? :banghead:

The U.S. is by far the best at aviation crash investigations, and we usually work with a few other countries that are also good at it. The fact is, a lot of countries completely lack the resources to conduct proper investigations, and rely on us. The U.S. sees it as beneficial because it improves our own aircraft safety (and probably allows us to figure out what some of these countries are up to). The U.S. always seems to be involved in any airline crash investigation. We just have way more experience with it.

 

[shygrl]

That's so crazy. Sounds like a movie, like it couldn't even be true. Would this type of hijacking involve making the pilots completely incapable of communication at all?

If it was a hijacking, I don't get why nobod's heard from the group responsible. Has there ever been a hijacking where it took this learn to hear demands, etc?

Test runs...or they already have what they want. With so many countries involved I doubt any demands would be met. The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists.

 

[JaimeInLA]

Officials revealed that the final words from the cockpit - "All right, good night" - were spoken to air traffic controllers after the plane's data communication system had been partially disabled. The pilots did not mention any trouble on board, suggesting they may have been misleading ground control.

Asked what the significance of this was, air force Maj. Gen. Affendi Buang told reporters: "This will tell you something ... because this is something not normal that the pilot would do."

Affendi said he did not know whether it was the pilot or co-pilot who spoke to air traffic controllers. That uncertainty also opened the possibility that someone else spoke those words, though he did not mention this scenario.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysi...5-countries-helping-search-for-missing-plane/

bbm

Only 239 people could have spoken those words. Less when you subtract the women and anyone who can't speak English. Why haven't they asked the families of the pilot and copilot, and all the other men on board if that could be their loved one's voice?! I can't believe it has been 10 days and they haven't narrowed down whose voice it could be!!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I had them in an area where I keep them while building a new forum. They are in the new forum now and I'm fixin' to move this thread over there, too.

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[IHAVENOCLUE]

I have to say, you guys are very quick to notice when things are amiss around here. I can tell you're all professional Websleuthers. :grouphug:

Yep... That's why we get the big bucks! :twocents:

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[Tssiemer]

What new forum?


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[Nana]

The U.S. is by far the best at aviation crash investigations, and we usually work with a few other countries that are also good at it. The fact is, a lot of countries completely lack the resources to conduct proper investigations, and rely on us. The U.S. sees it as beneficial because it improves our own aircraft safety (and probably allows us to figure out what some of these countries are up to). The U.S. always seems to be involved in any airline crash investigation. We just have way more experience with it.

BBM
We know what they are up to think NSA?
Ok the US is good no question there but it looks like someone or something is a lot better at this.... this time, we haven't found the plane yet either!!!

 

[lawstudent]

Only 239 people could have spoken those words. Less when you subtract the women and anyone who can't speak English. Why haven't they asked the families of the pilot and copilot, and all the other men on board if that could be their loved one's voice?! I can't believe it has been 10 days and they haven't narrowed down whose voice it could be!!

Would the communication have been recorded? I assume Vietnamese ATC records things, but I'm not sure. And my guess is if they don't know which of the pilots it was, it's not exactly clear enough for someone to say "yeah that's my relative." And who would come forward, if it possibly implicates them in a hijacking?

 

[shygrl]

Only 239 people could have spoken those words. Less when you subtract the women and anyone who can't speak English. Why haven't they asked the families of the pilot and copilot, and all the other men on board if that could be their loved one's voice?! I can't believe it has been 10 days and they haven't narrowed down whose voice it could be!!

Do they have a clear recording of it? Would families be honest? Are we sure we know everyone who was on the plane?

 

[lawstudent]

BBM
We know what they are up to think NSA?
Ok the US is good no question there but it looks like someone or something is a lot better at this.... this time, we haven't found the plane yet either!!!

Yes, we know what they are up to, but I imagine not 100%, and this probably gives us additional insight.

And I believe the U.S. has found it or it's in the ocean where no one can find it. Someone may be able to evade us for a point, but I think we're the only ones who could unravel what happened. Already we've figured out some stuff about their flight path that they seem to not have wanted us to know.

 

[skibaboo]

What new forum?


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This one

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Featured Case Discussion > Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

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[Trino]

The U.S. is by far the best at aviation crash investigations, and we usually work with a few other countries that are also good at it. The fact is, a lot of countries completely lack the resources to conduct proper investigations, and rely on us. The U.S. sees it as beneficial because it improves our own aircraft safety (and probably allows us to figure out what some of these countries are up to). The U.S. always seems to be involved in any airline crash investigation. We just have way more experience with it.

It doesn't matter if we're the best. See previous post (?) where I referenced Malaysia not pleased with our help.

 

[ElleElle]

Thanks WS to create this for us! :loveyou:

I think a tomnod thread would be great, because I cannot load the images, it crashes my Macbook!