MANHATTAN - Active Shooter reported at 345 Park Ave.

  • #101
could have taken the stairs to any floor if he wanted to once he reached Rudin's floor.
Could he? I've been to many large multi-tenant office buildings and you can't necessarily get to the other floors. The doors from the stairwell are locked in many of them. The stairwell is an emergency exit down to the lobby or external.

Often the elevators are restricted to certain floors after-hours (and this attack was after-hours), so I think it's likely that the stairwell access would be restricted as well.

Of course I don't know about this specific building.
 
  • #102
33rd floor is the first floor that opens in that elevator bank. So there may have been no target there.
 
  • #103
Could he? I've been to many large multi-tenant office buildings and you can't necessarily get to the other floors. The doors from the stairwell are locked in many of them. The stairwell is an emergency exit down to the lobby or external.

Often the elevators are restricted to certain floors after-hours (and this attack was after-hours), so I think it's likely that the stairwell access would be restricted as well.

Of course I don't know about this specific building.
You are probably correct
 
  • #104
  • #105
I worked in 345 from 2008-2012 and in Seagram (375 Park, directly across 52nd) from 2022-2024. This shooting happened in between. This is banking and NFL central, just a couple blocks from a big NYPD hub and at the spot of the Four Seasons restaurant, famous for Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis’ adoration among so many others. Surprising location. That building was still full of IB analysts and football operations guys at 7 PM.
[bbm] What does NFL stand for, please?
 
  • #106
  • #107
Fox news reported 43rd floor, NOT the 33rd as previously reported. 43rd floor at that address is a real estate agency. Rudin Management.
 
  • #108
[bbm] What does NFL stand for, please?
It’s the National Football League, and this address houses its headquarters.

We are talking billions of dollars flowing—- salaries, TV rights, advertisements, enormous contracts. Super Bowl halftime spectaculars. Ticket sales, officially licensed merchandise.

If you watch football and there’s some dispute about a call, this is where the phone calls land when during a game they decide they must call NY.

I’m sure they would have tremendous security, but that becomes moot when security is mowed down.

IMO
 
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  • #110
It’s the National Football League, and this address houses their headquarters.

We are talking billions of dollars flowing—- salaries, TV rights, advertisements, enormous contracts. Super Bowl halftime spectaculars. Ticket sales, officially licensed merchandise.

If you watch football and there’s some dispute about a call, this is where the phone calls land when during a game they decide they must call NY.

I’m sure they would have tremendous security, but that becomes moot when security is mowed down.

IMO
I worked in a multi-story building that housed the IRS. stairwell doors are locked from the inside, you could ride the elevator to the floor, but after that it was card key locked doors, strangely there was a public restroom for men, and I suppose one for women open to anyone next to the elevators.
 
  • #111
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The shooter inexpicably let a woman pass unharmed during his rampage on Monday night.
Shane Temura had opened fire inside the lobby of 345 Park Avenue, and after he shot three people he called for an elevator to the 33rd floor.
At that point, Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch said, a woman left the elevator shaft and Temura let her pass unharmed before he made his way upstairs.
There, another woman was found dead, as was Temura of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his chest.

Gunman Shane Tamura traveled across the country from his home in Las Vegas to New York City to carry out the attack, Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch announced at the news conference.
His vehicle was seen traveling through Colorado on Jul 26 and passed through New Jersey earlier on Monday evening.
The black BMW was searched, and police found a backpack with a rifle and ammunition, as well as medication prescribed to Tamura.
The gunman had known mental health issues, Tisch said.

NFL employees were urged to 'hide' after an active shooter stormed into the building which includes the league's headquarters in New York on Monday.
According to ESPN's Jeff Darlington, an NFL security alert sent to employees read: 'Do not exit the building. Secure your location and hide until law enforcement clears your floor. Please switch phones to silent.'
Late on Monday, a gunman - seen carrying an assault rifle - killed four people, including one police officer, after he opened fire in broad daylight in the heart of New York City, before he reportedly took his own life.
 
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  • #115
"Papers found on the shooter’s body indicate he had grievances with the NFL and its handling of CTE, a brain disease linked to head trauma, a law enforcement official told CNN."


If CTE and the NFL is at all of interest to you, read the book League of Denial. (The movie based off it was less than impressive. The book is very detailed and damning, IMO.)
Wow - there were Websleuthers early in the thread suggesting head trauma might be an issue. Such smart people here. I wouldn't have thought of that, tbh.

jmopinon
 
  • #116
I wonder if he shot himself in the chest instead of his head in order to preserve his brain for the autopsy. IMO
 
  • #117
"A Blackstone executive was reportedly among the four people shot and killed by the crazed gunman who shot up a Midtown office building Monday.

The unidentified executive was shot and killed in the lobby of the ritzy Park Avenue office tower when Shane Tamura double-parked his car, walked inside and opened fire with a high-powered rifle, people familiar with the situation told the Wall Street Journal."

 
  • #118
"Papers found on the shooter’s body indicate he had grievances with the NFL and its handling of CTE, a brain disease linked to head trauma, a law enforcement official told CNN."

If CTE and the NFL is at all of interest to you, read the book League of Denial. (The movie based off it was less than impressive. The book is very detailed and damning, IMO.)

There was also a great film "Concussion"
(starring Will Smith)
about micro-shocks and head injuries of athletes and lethal consequences
(brain degeneration
suffered by professional football players.)

 
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  • #119
Timeline:

NYC Midtown shooting timeline​

NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch provided a timeline of events leading up to Monday’s mass shooting:

  • Reports of the shooting at 345 Park Ave. start coming in around 6:28 p.m.
  • The shooter, Shane Tamura, 27, is seen on surveillance footage getting out of a double-parked black BMW between 51st and 52nd streets, with an M4 rifle.
  • He walks towards the skyscraper, enters the lobby and turns right, where he shoots police officer Didarul Islam, 36, dead.
  • Tamura guns down a woman cowering behind a pillar in the lobby as he sprays more bullets and walks toward the elevator bank — where he shoots dead a security guard crouching at his desk.
  • One more man reports being shot and injured in the lobby. He was in critical but stable condition.
  • The gunman allows a woman to walk out of the elevators unharmed, before heading up to the 33rd floor, where building owner Rudin Properties’ offices are located, “and begins to walk the floor, firing as he traveled.”
  • One man is shot and killed on that floor.
  • “He then proceeds down a hallway and shoots himself in the chest,” ending his rampage.
  • It’s unclear how long the mayhem lasted. Tisch posted on X at 7:52 p.m.: “The scene has been contained and the lone shooter has been neutralized.”
 
  • #120
Essentially, as long as you take out the one off-duty police officer, all of the security they have at these building entrances are as useless as the Swamp Castle guards ("Excuse me, you're not allowed to enter the room..."). They all have security guards, doormen... Oh, but you have to use a key card to get through the turnstile. (I bet he didn't even stop to get photographed for a guest pass.) If this were a government building, he'd likely be DOA, or at the very least stuck in the lobby with no way of getting upstairs... Obvious double-standard. If you walk past the the police station in the middle of Times Square, you'll see several cops standing outside with guns that look like the one this a-hole (who sounds like another Luigi) was carrying. The employes' only hope was the old duck-and-cover. I used to carry pepper spray when I worked in NY (it would've been too much of a pain to get a permit in 2 states), but apparently nobody even had that much.
 

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