Mark Sievers Trial General Discussion Thread

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Mark Sievers Trial
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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Curtis Wayne Wright - Cooperating Co defendant Part 3
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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Curtis Wayne Wright - Cooperating Co defendant Part 4 & Annie Lisa
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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Dr. Mark Petrites, Adam Hughes & Lt Michael Downs
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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Lt Michael Downs - Lee Co Sheriff's Office
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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 Christine Rose Lee Co Sheriff's Office Crime Scene Tech
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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Curtis Wayne Wright - Cooperating Co defendant Part 3
Nov 22, 2019

 

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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Curtis Wayne Wright - Cooperating Co defendant Part 4 & Annie Lisa
Nov 22, 2019

 

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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Dr. Mark Petrites, Adam Hughes & Lt Michael Downs
Nov 22, 2019

 

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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 - Lt Michael Downs - Lee Co Sheriff's Office
Nov 22, 2019

 

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Mark Sievers Trial Day 3 Christine Rose Lee Co Sheriff's Office Crime Scene Tech
Nov 22, 2019

 

[Bobbywoo]

He came to their house on several occasions, she knew him well. He talks a lot about hanging out with their daughters also.

I caught the hanging out with the daughters part but had never heard of TS beings around at the same time. Very interesting. CWW as an object of desire for TS just blows my mind. I wonder if she just said it because that's what she thought MS wanted to hear? I'm leaning towards she never said she had fantasies of him at all.

 

[Bobbywoo]

Actually, Teresa didnt know him really well according to all the discovery. In fact, she couldn't stand him, imo. It was mainly Mark and the daughters who spent alot of time with CWW. Teresa was busy working all the time when the visits happened. Teresa did not enjoy Mark's Missouri roots (friends and family) at all... jmo

I was under this exact impression.

 

[Gardenista]

Someone was kind enough to post this audio of AWs interview. Is there a link that has more audio/video files?

Wright Angela 1 - Lebid-Downs-(Nolen)-lcso-4R_P1.mp3

 

[Scalex]

Actually, Teresa didnt know him really well according to all the discovery. In fact, she couldn't stand him, imo. It was mainly Mark and the daughters who spent alot of time with CWW. Teresa was busy working all the time when the visits happened. Teresa did not enjoy Mark's Missouri roots (friends and family) at all... jmo

I just disagree. I don’t care how little is in discovery. A mother doesn’t let a grown unfamiliar man hangout with their children without getting acquainted with them.
AW/CWW said that CWW stayed at the Sievers residence when he came into town.
I’m not saying she was buddies with CWW, but they obviously knew each other much more than “meeting one time at a wedding” and not again until the murder.

 

[Scalex]

Daughters especially.. I’m just saying.

 

[Oregonmama]

I just disagree. I don’t care how little is in discovery. A mother doesn’t let a grown unfamiliar man hangout with their children without getting acquainted with them.
AW/CWW said that CWW stayed at the Sievers residence when he came into town.
I’m not saying she was buddies with CWW, but they obviously knew each other much more than “meeting one time at a wedding” and not again until the murder.

They knew of each other but were not close and mark was the stay home parent so it's normal that CWW hung out with them. Nothing wrong with a best friend hanging out. Moms have their buddies hang out too . Nothing strange, but these men had their issues but not everyone knew that. The discovery told a lot of the story and discovery is important because it shows how the crime built up to murder. This came had massive discovery as well in regards to life for the Seivers to base this off.

 

[No it's not]

Someone was kind enough to post this audio of AWs interview. Is there a link that has more audio/video files?

Wright Angela 1 - Lebid-Downs-(Nolen)-lcso-4R_P1.mp3

There are some more files located in "Batch 4":
2016.02.03 Batch 4 Audio/Video Files - Sievers Discovery Documents

However, here is a list a sleuther compiled with all audio/ video files, that were publicly released:
1 TScomplete.docx

I can share the google links to the audio/video files you like to check out, unless someone else has them handy. As I do not have all links ready to go, I have to pull up the individual file and create the link, just let me know which ones. I will be back tomorrow afternoon and will gladly assist.

-Nin

 

[flgrl017]

So cww and jr didn’t have a plan, but they both randomly ended up with hammers? I don’t buy it.

Also if those jumpsuits are treated with anything they need to explain that better. They probably were for safety precautions. It does seem weird it didn’t have any blood on it.

 

[Scalex]

They knew of each other but were not close and mark was the stay home parent so it's normal that CWW hung out with them. Nothing wrong with a best friend hanging out. Moms have their buddies hang out too . Nothing strange, but these men had their issues but not everyone knew that. The discovery told a lot of the story and discovery is important because it shows how the crime built up to murder. This came had massive discovery as well in regards to life for the Seivers to base this off.

That’s what I’m saying. I didn’t say they were close. I read almost if not all of the discovery. Someone on here said they were under the impression TS and CWW had only met at the wedding and then her murder. That’s impossible.

 

[Curious Me]

CWW would give me the heebie jeebies hanging around children, especially girls, but then again I only know him as a murderer. Teresa put up with so darn much from Mark.

 

[TrueCrimeAddict55]

I agree that he did it for money. Amazing that he was going to pocket $90k and give Jimmy aka The Hammer just $10k of it.

IMO, Jimmy is at least as sick if not more so than the other two. I believe that Jimmy laughed when he recounted how he hit Dr. Sievers.

It sickens and scares me to think that there are people like this walking among us.

What also sickens me is to think that all 3 of them are fathers, who are supposed to be good role models for their children. I also pray for the kids because non of them chose these evil Dads. All 3 of their minds are just pure evil. All IMO. Praying for justice too!! ♡♡♡

 

[Arachne 1]

So cww and jr didn’t have a plan, but they both randomly ended up with hammers? I don’t buy it.

Also if those jumpsuits are treated with anything they need to explain that better. They probably were for safety precautions. It does seem weird it didn’t have any blood on it.

If it weren't for Amazon Rain, we wouldn't know about the Scotch-Guard type or Teflon type treatment used on the coveralls to repell toxic materials, such as lead and acid. They should have spent more time with that, maybe even shown a demonstration video to the jury about how all fluids just slide right off. That would have helped a lot.

I wonder if, to further eliminate evidence, CWW and JRR could have previously shocked the pool with extra chlorine or other chemicals that would help blood to vanish into the pool, if they were to jump into it immediately after the murder? I'm wondering why, according to CWW, they took off their coveralls outside of the house? Instead of balling up their coveralls and stuffing them into the garbage bags they bought at Wal-Mart, while inside the house? So no one could see them? I think this is one of CWW's tricks... to divert attention and focus away from what actually happened, by providing other details to engage our imagination. It is impossible to believe anything that a creative liar like CWW has to offer. He really enjoys what he does. He is a very dangerous man.

Sorry. This is what happens when I can't sleep.

 

[JolietJake]

Dr Petrites's v-mails the night before and morning of his discovery of the body were in his words, "odd" and "bizarre". I may have missed some things along the way since I didn't know of the v-mail from the night before and hadn't heard the actual audio from either one until yesterday. I hope they stick in the minds of the jury since they just reek of MS and his coniving ways.

Also, I recall discussions a few years ago on this web site regarding LE getting the 'chance tip' from Illinois. I believe the tipster got the original info while getting her hair done at a friend's or relative's house or something to that effect. I don't recall if the name was brought up during JRR's trial or if it has been brought up in MS's trial as of yet. Is the name of that person protected or perhaps irrelevant to the case? Did I miss this part?

 

[Kakidoll]

I didn't know about the teflon like coating... and i've been on MOST of the threads... maybe i forgot. But it obviously has not been brought up well enough in trial. So jurors would know or not know. I think one of the big things is NO BLOOD found in the back pack. Even if they were taken off, inside out and stuffed in, you'd think there would be trace. The pool idea is a good one. I also don't understand why the blooddrops in garage were NOT tested. That would at least coincide with them walking out of the house with the suit on.