MD - Freddie Gray dies in police custody #2

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  • #761
She knew it was a legal arrest, but she wanted to arrest all 6 of them to make a big statement and calm the rioters. AND she wants some leverage to try and make some deals, imo. If she can have some wiggle room to let some off in exchange for damning info against the others she is in good shape. So she trumped up charges against a couple to take down the rest, imo.

Happens everyday by prosecutors. It sucks, but thats how the justice system works.
 
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But why risk your career? Further proof that the system is messed up IMO

IMO in some of these high profile cases, the facts seem to be secondary to the "larger message," and there's more than a few who seem to be OK with that.

Think UVA rolling stone article.

And I'm MOOOOOOing again. ;)
 
  • #765
Happens everyday by prosecutors. It sucks, but thats how the justice system works.

Every day prosecutors falsely charge innocent people, get them arrested, fired, and ruin their lives?
 
  • #766
Great. so where are the other 6 prisoners that were picked up during this 40 minute ride?

Or was that 40 minute ride reserved for one person?

It was a Sunday morning, so they probably get a longer ride than usual since there isn't as much going on.

Think about it. They need those vans out there as much as possible as transportation for foot and bike patrol cops arrests.
 
  • #767
Mosby was in an enormous hurry to charge these officers. I'm not so sure she knew the actual description of the baltimore law. The big question is how have the courts ruled on spring assist knives before? I will be shocked if the court rules they are legal!!
 
  • #768
Every day prosecutors falsely charge innocent people, get them arrested, fired, and ruin their lives?

Everyday prosecutors use charges that they otherwise wouldn't to get people to talk. Yes. Some don't like it this time because it happens to be a cop. And we dont know how innocent they are. We dont even know why they went after him.
I think Mosby has a smoking gun.
 
  • #769
Happens everyday by prosecutors. It sucks, but thats how the justice system works.

Yep. Not sure why people think officers should get different treatment. A man in their care is dead. It isn't like the knife is the only issue in this case.
 
  • #770
Gee there sure are a lot of people here that are certain that Freddie had a switchblade. None of whom can provide a photo of that knife or it's make and model.

The Baltimore SA has that information, nobody here does.
 
  • #771
i like this Police Commish. He is sincere, intelligent and is willing to take some of the responsibility for the state B'more is in. That is what the people of B'more want.
 
  • #772
No. I assume most prisoners end the trip alive. Ofc. Goodson, according to Mosby, failed to buckle FG in on 5 separate occasions, so I assume he went back and checked on him at least 4 times + noted his condition when he came aboard. Somehow in the 40 min. FG went from quasi-normal to quasi-dead, and the only person following his condition throughout was Ofc. Goodson, who apparently didn't notice anything noteworthy enough to call EMTs.

I'm not too concerned about the seat belt part. I don't like that they don't do it, but there is some wiggle room if they just got the rule a few days before.

I'm keeping an open mind on this until I hear more.
 
  • #773
O/T Wow!

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#BREAKING Sheriff has person of interest in murder, beheading of Putnam Co couple. Now on Ch2 http://2wsb.tv/1c2Jmtv
 
  • #774
Mosby was in an enormous hurry to charge these officers. I'm not so sure she knew the actual description of the baltimore law. The big question is how have the courts ruled on spring assist knives before? I will be shocked if the court rules they are legal!!

What you missed is that the Baltimore SA office started investigating this case long before the files were officially turned over to the office.

Statement From SAO on Receiving BPD Investigation

The State’s Attorney’s Office has in fact received the hardcopies of the Baltimore Police Department’s investigative file; however, the results of their investigation are not new to us.

We have been briefed regularly throughout their process while simultaneously conducting our own independent investigation into the death of Freddie Gray. While we have and will continue to leverage the information received by the Department, we are not relying solely on their findings but rather the facts that we have gathered and verified. We ask for the public to remain patient and peaceful and to trust the process of the justice system.

State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby
 
  • #775
I'm not too concerned about the seat belt part. I don't like that they don't do it, but there is some wiggle room if they just got the rule a few days before.

I'm keeping an open mind on this until I hear more.

I'm not at all concerned about the seat belt rule when it comes to police vans. There's no glass on the sides and a solid partition divides the right compartment from the left ... leaving the arrestee effectively boxed in and unable to fly throw a glass window like an untethered perp might in a police cruiser crash.
 
  • #776
I'm not too concerned about the seat belt part. I don't like that they don't do it, but there is some wiggle room if they just got the rule a few days before.

I'm keeping an open mind on this until I hear more.

Did you see the design of that van? How is police officer supposed to climb in there and get the seat bealt on uncooperative detainee is beyond my understanding. Even if detainee is fully cooperative there is very little space in there.
 
  • #777
I'm not at all concerned about the seat belt rule when it comes to police vans. There's no glass on the sides and a solid partition divides the right compartment from the left ... leaving the arrestee effectively boxed in and unable to fly throw a glass window like an untethered perp might in a police cruiser crash.
But yet somehow Freddie Gray was severely injured in that van.
 
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Gee there sure are a lot of people here that are certain that Freddie had a switchblade. None of whom can provide a photo of that knife or it's make and model.

The Baltimore SA has that information, nobody here does.

Maybe that's why police officer file that motion asking to release the knife.
 
  • #780
And a lot of people who are upset with her on this board, forget she ran on a platform that included fighting police corruption and misbehavior. This is what the voters wanted. She is walking the walk not just talking the talk and I for one am glad for it.

imo

I'm just glad that she is supporting the constitution. We need more politicians who are willing to tell cops to stop violating people's constitutional rights. If some cops want to quit because of that (I doubt they will), then good riddance. Cops are sworn to uphold the constitution. If they are not willing to do that, then they should not be cops.
 
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