MD - Freddie Gray dies in police custody #3 *INDICTMENT*

[KEVINinTO]

No kidding!! Because what she is saying is that the EVIDENCE becoming public, things like the autopsy report, the TRUTH, will prevent her from getting convictions. Suppressing the evidence will not "help" the officers get a "fair trial"-- suppressing the evidence will "help" the prosecutor get convictions. Mosby is saying she cannot prosecute the case (AND WIN) if the evidence becomes public.

If the case were solid, the prosecutor would just shrug about the defense potentially releasing evidence to the public, and go about putting on her case. Like most prosecutors do, even in high profile cases.

And yeah, pretty much everyone knows that whatever is in the autopsy report is clearly NOT favorable to the prosecutor's charges, IMO.

Let's all hope the courts deny this prosecutor's request to gag the defense attorneys. From what I know, the bar for gagging defense attorneys is pretty high-- let's hope the judge agrees. Transparency, public dialogue, and accountability is severely needed in this case.

We don't need a kangaroo court in Baltimore.

A judge struck down original request for a gag order

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-gag-order-stricken-20150608-story.html

Judge Charles J. Peters ruled the motion lacked standing in an actual proceeding, as it was filed by Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's office in Circuit Court on May 14. At that time, the officers' cases were still in District Court. They weren't transferred to Circuit Court until May 21, when the officers were indicted.

Judge orders Mosby to respond to defense motions in Freddie Gray case by June 26
Judge orders Mosby to respond to defense motions in Freddie Gray case by June 26
Rochelle Ritchie, a Mosby spokeswoman, declined to say whether the state planned to file a new gag order motion, which Peters' ruling did not preclude.

I don't know if a new motion was filed.

 

[ReecieV]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/leaked-autopsy-report-reveals-freddie-grays-cause-of-death/

Rest of quote at link:
UPDATE — 06/23/15, 7:40 p.m. ET: Mosby’s office sent a statement to Greta Van Susteran, which she read during On The Record.

Anderson Cooper is also reporting on it now.

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[popsicle]

The Sun said the have a copy of the autopsy.

Justin Fenton ‏@justin_fenton
.@MarilynMosbyEsq says @baltimoresao did not leak autopsy: "I strongly condemn anyone with access to trial evidence who has leaked info"


Justin Fenton ‏@justin_fenton [video=twitter;613460229066502144]https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/613460229066502144[/video]
Defense attorneys for officers charged in Gray case say they have never seen the autopsy

 

[KEVINinTO]

The Sun said the have a copy of the autopsy.

Justin Fenton ‏@justin_fenton
.@MarilynMosbyEsq says @baltimoresao did not leak autopsy: "I strongly condemn anyone with access to trial evidence who has leaked info"


Justin Fenton ‏@justin_fenton [video=twitter;613460229066502144]https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/613460229066502144[/video]
Defense attorneys for officers charged in Gray case say they have never seen the autopsy

Interesting that the defense say that they expect to receive all discovery documents including the autopsy no later than June 26th. (I wonder if this is an actual deadline imposed on the SA).

If they receive these documents as stated I expect a flood of documents to be released by the defense after this date. The next few weeks could get very interesting in this case!

 

[dandy]

Gray tested positive for opiates and cannabinoid when he was admitted to Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to the autopsy. The report makes no further reference to the drugs found in his system.

The report does not note any previous injuries to Gray's spine.

:thinking: does this show baltimore sun's bias in omitting your quote?


5 new things we learned from the Freddie Gray autopsy

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...utopsy-additional-details-20150624-story.html

looking forward to more of dr. cyril's statements - ita that the drugs didn't cause his death - but did they alter his actions in the van? i'm starting to think this has mm's fingerprints on it = get "their" story out there 1st and highlight what they want the public to hear.

 

[bettybaby00]

I haven't read the full report yet, but I'm guessing there is no mention of a "crushed voice box" or "his spine was 80% severed" language?

And seriously? The defense did not have a copy :crazy:

 

[ShadyLady]

I haven't read the full report yet, but I'm guessing there is no mention of a "crushed voice box" or "his spine was 80% severed" language?

And seriously? The defense did not have a copy :crazy:

Being on opiates he could have very well injured himself by thrashing around as the van was moving. imo

Does anyone have links to Anderson video or Fox?

I also question how it can be called a homicide.

 

[galiuro]

The Sun does not list the drugs in his system as being one of the new things discovered in the autopsy? Virtually no mention of it much of anywhere else? Don't see how that could NOT have affected him...

 

[dandy]

Being on opiates he could have very well injured himself by thrashing around as the van was moving. imo

Does anyone have links to Anderson video or Fox?

I also question how it can be called a homicide.

here's greta/fox from last nite

http://video.foxnews.com/v/43171173...ylist_id=930909814001#sp=show-clips/primetime

 

[popsicle]

Freddie Gray autopsy: excerpt from the report

A computed tomography scan (CT) of the head and neck was negative for intracranial bleeding or fractures of the facial bones or skull, but demonstrated an unstable C4/C5 fracture/dislocation with high grade spinal canal compromise as well as a left vertebral artery injury. A magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) study, performed revealed a tiny left interventricular hemorrhage, near transection of the spinal cord, rupture of multiple stabilizing ligaments at the level of C4/C5, extensive edema of soft tissues of the posterior neck region and a small fluid collection anterior to C3 through C7; no other abnormalities of the uninjured cervical vertebral column, spinal cord or adjacent soft tissues were described in the report. Mr. Gray was stabilized and closed reduction of the vertebral dislocation was attempted without success. He was taken to the operating room on 4/14/2015 for C3-C6 laminectomy and fusion of C4 and C5. The operative note made no mention of healed or healing scars on the neck or evidence of previous injury or surgical interventions.

At autopsy,.....

The spinal cord was intact, but showed extensive edema, traumatic contusion (bruising) and necrosis of the cervical spinal cord, extension of the necrosis into the lower brainstem and high thoracic regions, and secondary, non-traumatic changes due to probable re-perfusion injury of the entire spinal cord. The internal examination showed no evidence of injury to the ribs, thoracic or lumbar vertebral column, pelvic bones or the internal organs. An anterior neck dissection showed an intact hyoid bone and laryngeal cartilage.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...ie-gray-autopsy-report-text-story.html#page=1

 

[K_Z]

Quite interesting, the AR narrative in the Sun article. The findings, as expected, (IMO) do not clearly support any wrongdoing on the part of the officers. The physical findings are even less that I expected, with a single blow out fracture at C 4-5 (and the expected sequelae from that and a prolonged cardiac arrest), and clearly NO laryngeal damage at all. Also clearly NO previous spine surgery or therapy. And opioids (almost certainly heroin, given his history), and cannabinoids in the presenting tox urine says he took them within a short time before he was in ER. We don't know how high those levels were, yet, if they eventually release them.

It's equally clear the public was fed a lot of mistruths about his injuries, in an attempt to paint the officers in a very bad light, IMO.

I personally feel MUCH better about the charges against the officers, because with this preview of the autopsy results, IMO, the charges will rapidly fall apart, and I doubt a jury would convict on even manslaughter. The only thing that can be proven with that autopsy, IMO, is that he experienced an unwitnessed injury to his head/ neck while in the van, and that he was on drugs when arrested. The injuries are just as easily explained by an accident where he could have been trying to stand up while the van was moving.

Prosecutors will try to make this about a seat belt, but given the issues surrounding the implementation of that new policy, there is no obvious criminal intent or action here, IMO. He wasn't even roughed up, IMO.

I'm traveling at the moment, and might try to post more later if I get some good wifi!

 

[dandy]

there's a section that i don't understand . . . so is she saying that it occurred or didn't occur when he was on the floor. i had heard/read that the chief m/e didn't sign the report - that's not the case.

bbm: While it cannot be excluded that this injury could occur while lying on the floor and sliding back and forth with the movement of the van, the likelihood of sufficient acceleration/deceleration to generate the energy needed is less likely in this position. Further, the most significant impact to the head and the impact consistent with the neck injury is on the left lower back area of the head, is not consistent with injury in this prone position.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...ie-gray-autopsy-report-text-story.html#page=1

 

[bettybaby00]

Quite interesting, the AR narrative in the Sun article. The findings, as expected, (IMO) do not clearly support any wrongdoing on the part of the officers. The physical findings are even less that I expected, with a single blow out fracture at C 4-5 (and the expected sequelae from that and a prolonged cardiac arrest), and clearly NO laryngeal damage at all. Also clearly NO previous spine surgery or therapy. And opioids (almost certainly heroin, given his history), and cannabinoids in the presenting tox urine says he took them within a short time before he was in ER. We don't know how high those levels were, yet, if they eventually release them.

It's equally clear the public was fed a lot of mistruths about his injuries, in an attempt to paint the officers in a very bad light, IMO.

I personally feel MUCH better about the charges against the officers, because with this preview of the autopsy results, IMO, the charges will rapidly fall apart, and I doubt a jury would convict on even manslaughter. The only thing that can be proven with that autopsy, IMO, is that he experienced an unwitnessed injury to his head/ neck while in the van, and that he was on drugs when arrested. The injuries are just as easily explained by an accident where he could have been trying to stand up while the van was moving.

Prosecutors will try to make this about a seat belt, but given the issues surrounding the implementation of that new policy, there is no obvious criminal intent or action here, IMO. He wasn't even roughed up, IMO.

I'm traveling at the moment, and might try to post more later if I get some good wifi!

It. Sounds like a compression injury to me. (In my humble opinion. ) one year my son had a fractured wrist and it was obvious and the next year he had a compression. Very different injuries and makes intent of the driver even more dubious SMH

 

[katydid23]

It. Sounds like a compression injury to me. (In my humble opinion. ) one year my son had a fractured wrist and it was obvious and the next year he had a compression. Very different injuries and makes intent of the driver even more dubious SMH

Yes, this will be a problem for the driver. But what about the other 5 officers that have been charged with murder as well. Does this strengthen or weaken the case against them?

I say it weakens the case against them. Especially the case against the ones that originally arrested him. Now we know that MM, personally, asked the cops to go to that corner and clean up the drug sales. And now we know that FG was high on drugs when he took off running. So I doubt a jury is going to fault them for making the arrest under those circumstances. I don't see them going down on a murder charge. I am not even convinced they will go to trial.

 

[dandy]

add a 3rd party that had the autopsy report - family attorney

William H. Murphy Jr. said Tuesday that he had received a copy of the report several days ago. But in a statement Wednesday, he said he was "dismayed that despite our repeated requests, we have not yet received the autopsy photographs, the medical examiner's autopsy notes, the tests performed on Mr. Gray's body, and everything else upon which the medical examiner relied."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...md-ci-gray-family-autopsy-20150624-story.html

also - i'm more convinced than ever that mm released the autopsy report - now she can use it to further support her gag order motion. so the latest motion basically says she threw the police force under the bus to save baltimore from total destruction? CTH has a great explanation of mm's response to the defense motion . here's the baltimore sun's link:

Prosecutors take credit for restoring order in Baltimore after riot
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...mosby-repsonse-misconduct-20150624-story.html

 

[dandy]

:thinking: found the link to mm's vogue layout. does this contradict the above motion?

“The unrest had nothing to do with my decision to charge,” says Mosby. “I just followed where the facts led.”

http://www.vogue.com/13274162/marilyn-mosby-baltimore-prosecutor/

 

[dandy]

:drumroll: add a 4th party to the autopsy report! i've used up my 3 stories today so here's the headline and quote from yesterday's article:

Prosecutors make fresh call for limits on Freddie Gray evidence

The filing does not allege that the defense attorneys leaked the report, but argues that a statement they released to reporters neglected to mention that Bledsoe had told them in a phone call Tuesday that the police department also had access to the autopsy documents.

"Once again the defense has demonstrated their intent to deliberately release inaccurate information in order to publicly cast doubt on the integrity of [the state's attorney's office] and the case against each police officer," Bledsoe wrote.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...-ci-gray-protective-order-20150624-story.html

 

[popsicle]

The Baltimore Sun ‏@baltimoresun
1 of the nation's leading forensic pathologists disagrees with "homicide" conclusion in Freddie Gray autopsy. http://bsun.md/1GtoDrA

Asked about the Maryland medical examiner's conclusion that Freddie Gray's death from injuries sustained in police custody was a homicide, Dr. Vincent DiMaio, one of the nation's leading forensic pathologists, said: "I'd have to respectfully disagree, and I know a number of other medical examiners do. It would be more appropriate to have classified this case as either an accident or 'undetermined,' because the way it's being called a homicide is, in a way, something that a jury has to decide. A medical examiner is not a lawyer, is not a jury. … They're saying [Gray's death] was not an unforeseen event. That's something for a jury to decide, not the doctor to decide."

 

[popsicle]

Evidence in Freddie Gray case is at least 300,000 documents

The evidence amounts to 52 gigabytes of digital files, Deputy States Attorney Janice Bledsoe wrote. That is the same as 26-hours worth of high definition movies on Netflix.

In a footnote, Williams also asked prosecutors to refrain from filing further letters in the court file and instead communicate with him through formal pleadings.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...d-ci-gray-evidence-volume-20150625-story.html

 

[K_Z]

Circuit Judge Barry Williams, who is presiding over the case, on Wednesday declined prosecutors' request for an expedited hearing on the protective order, ruling that State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby's office had failed to follow court rules in asking for the hearing.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...d-ci-gray-evidence-volume-20150625-story.html

Kind of a "smack down" right out of the gate for MM from the new judge, IMO.

It's about time, IMO, that someone in authority compelled her and her office to follow the rules, and put a stop to her prima donna extra-judicial antics. Her request for the gag order sounded like a whiny, petulant middle schooler wrote it, IMO. Very unprofessional, IMO.