MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #7

[Indy Anna]

Bumping for Phylicia. May she receive justice soon!

 

[JeannieC]

Beautiful Phylicia, you are in our thoughts. Justice is coming! I wish it had come yesterday but we haven't given up on "HOPE" for justice.

 

[nyla]

Bumping..JFPB!!!!

 

[Cubby]

Another bump for Phylicia while we are waiting for Mr. Neverdon and Mr. Johnson to put there money were their mouth is.

Did Michael Johnson take and pass a poly and I missed the news?

Any substance to the allegations Mr. Neverdon brought up against the BPD? Maybe news of that Internal Affairs complaint Guglielmi suggested if there was any actual wrong doing? I didn't think so.....

Justice for Phylicia!

I believe there will be multiple arrests when arrests are made. I'm perfectly content to wait as long as it takes so the prosecutors can ensure they have a strong enough case to guaranty convictions. Those responsible for Phylicia's murder WILL be prosecuted and WILL face the repercussions for their actions in stealing such a beautiful person with a promising future. We have not forgotten.

 

[Sun48shine]

Another bump for Phylicia while we are waiting for Mr. Neverdon and Mr. Johnson to put there money were their mouth is.

Did Michael Johnson take and pass a poly and I missed the news?

Any substance to the allegations Mr. Neverdon brought up against the BPD? Maybe news of that Internal Affairs complaint Guglielmi suggested if there was any actual wrong doing? I didn't think so.....

Justice for Phylicia!

I believe there will be multiple arrests when arrests are made. I'm perfectly content to wait as long as it takes so the prosecutors can ensure they have a strong enough case to guaranty convictions. Those responsible for Phylicia's murder WILL be prosecuted and WILL face the repercussions for their actions in stealing such a beautiful person with a promising future. We have not forgotten.

I see some potential similarities (possible staged murder scene, victim placed in location away from home, less likely to have been killed by a stranger, no signs of robbery, no signs of rape, person of interest obtaining a lawyer, police looking into timelines and cell phone pings) in Phylicia's case and the case of the "Mercedes Murder Mystery.

Here is a recent case "Mercedes Murder Mystery of a victim found 6 - 8 miles from their home, in her vehicle, strangled, in a rough part of Detriot, Michigan on Wednesday, January 25, 2012. The husband said he got home and saw her work ID and the television was on. The husband is considered a "person of interest" by the Gross Pointe police, but Detroit police who found her body consider the husband a "suspect. The husband immediately got a lawyer and he failed the polygraph test. Police are looking into the timeline and where the husband's cell phone pings. MJ should see if he will pass the polygraph test. At least this man took the test.

Dan Abrams, ABC Legal Analyst mentioned that there is no real difference between being a person of interest and being a suspect. By calling someone a person of interest, police hope the person will start talking.

Nancy Grace disagreed and mentioned to the effect that if a person is called a suspect, but is really not, there could be serious questions raised by a jury if someone else is found out to be the real killer.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120130/METRO/201300373/1409/metro/Nancy-Grace-says-Grosse-Pointe-woman-s-murder-not-random-

 

[CincinnatiKate]

these two cases are very different in my opinion..... very very different. the only things in common I see are that they were both women and both found dead in Detroit...

 

[Sun48shine]

these two cases are very different in my opinion..... very very different. the only things in common I see are that they were both women and both found dead in Detroit...

Phylicia was found in Maryland. The things that I mentioned of similarities have already been brought up by police.

 

[Cubby]

I'm not seeing any correlation/similiarities between the Mercedes Mystery murder and Phylicia's case, other than LE does not believe either to be a random killing and personal items were found at the last place the victim was seen.

 

[Sun48shine]

I'm not seeing any correlation/similiarities between the Mercedes Mystery murder and Phylicia's case, other than LE does not believe either to be a random killing and personal items were found at the last place the victim was seen.

Here are the similarities that I am referring to in my above post.

(possible staged murder scene, victim placed in location away from home, less likely to have been killed by a stranger, no signs of robbery, no signs of rape, person of interest obtaining a lawyer, police looking into timelines and cell phone pings)

To clarify, I am seeing similarities on the "person of interest" part.


It was mentioned on television news that police are looking into timelines and the husband's cell phone pings.

 

[Cubby]

Here are the similarities that I am referring to in my above post.

(possible staged murder scene, victim placed in location away from home, less likely to have been killed by a stranger, no signs of robbery, no signs of rape, person of interest obtaining a lawyer, police looking into timelines and cell phone pings)

To clarify, I am seeing similarities on the "person of interest" part.

Most of what you are posting as similiarities are very common and routine investigation procedures. POI's almost always lawyer up. Random murders by perfect strangers are almost always rare in all cases. Police review timelines and cell phone pings in all cases when cell phone pings are available, LE always reviews timelines in all cases. (iow check alibi's). COD has been released in the Detroit case. MD LE is keeping Phylicia's COD as hold back information in her case.

MD LE has never stated publicly they have ruled out rape in Phylicia's case.

 

[Sun48shine]

Most of what you are posting as similiarities are very common and routine investigation procedures. POI's almost always lawyer up. Random murders by perfect strangers are almost always rare in all cases. Police review timelines and cell phone pings in all cases when cell phone pings are available, LE always reviews timelines in all cases. (iow check alibi's). COD has been released in the Detroit case. MD LE is keeping Phylicia's COD as hold back information in her case.

MD LE has never stated publicly they have ruled out rape in Phylicia's case.

Being from Maryland, I have actually talked face to face with some of the Detectives who have either worked on the case before or know about Phylicia's case. They continue to say that she was not raped.

 

[Cubby]

Being from Maryland, I have actually talked face to face with some of the Detectives who have either worked on the case before or know about Phylicia's case. They continue to say that she was not raped.

Are they saying they have evidence that can conclusively prove she was not raped, or are they saying they do not have evidence to prove she was raped?

I'm not sure I believe that. Not that I don't believe that is what you were told, but that the condition of her remains would not be condusive to a medical examiner being able to determine whether or not she was raped. I believe they may have no evidence to prove she was raped, but I believe the condition of her remains may not have allowed them to determine conclusively either way.

 

[Sun48shine]

Are they saying they have evidence that can conclusively prove she was not raped, or are they saying they do not have evidence to prove she was raped?

I'm not sure I believe that. Not that I don't believe that is what you were told, but that the condition of her remains would not be condusive to a medical examiner being able to determine whether or not she was raped. I believe they may have no evidence to prove she was raped, but I believe the condition of her remains may not have allowed them to determine conclusively either way.

Cubby,
I am not sure if they were going by information given to them from a medical examiner or what. A couple of them were talking to me casually. Last week, a recently retired detective told me that an arrest was coming very soon on Phylicia's case. I asked him when but he just kept saying very soon. Hopefully they are not just saying this to get me off their backs.

 

[belimom]

Cubby,
I am not sure if they were going by information given to them from a medical examiner or what. A couple of them were talking to me casually. Last week, a recently retired detective told me that an arrest was coming very soon on Phylicia's case. I asked him when but he just kept saying very soon. Hopefully they are not just saying this to get me off their backs.

raying:

I hope there is an arrest soon. Very soon. Like, yesterday.

With her body being in water for so long... ... I don't know how they can say definitively that she was raped or not raped, kwim? Seems like it would be impossible to tell. :twocents:

 

[Sun48shine]

Here is an interesting site on investigations of violent crimes.

http://www.drtomoconnor.com/3220/3220lect03.htm

 

[Cubby]

Cubby,
I am not sure if they were going by information given to them from a medical examiner or what. A couple of them were talking to me casually. Last week, a recently retired detective told me that an arrest was coming very soon on Phylicia's case. I asked him when but he just kept saying very soon. Hopefully they are not just saying this to get me off their backs.

raying: I'm looking forward to the day we can all do the happy dance that an arrest has finally been made in Phylicia's case. Of course we'll be here for the duration, until sentencing occurs.

No disrespect intended by the remark on doing the happy dance. Of course there is nothing happy about this case or situation. though it will bring some relief and additional closure that those responsible are held accountable and pay the repercussions for their crimes.

Justice for Phylicia!

 

[Indy Anna]

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/02/01/delegate-proposing-md-missing-childrens-plan/
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ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) — A state delegate from Baltimore is proposing the creation of a plan that would kick in whenever a Maryland child goes missing. Delegate Jill Carter and missing persons advocates gathered Wednesday to discuss a bill aimed at improving cooperation between state agencies and advocacy groups.

“Phylicia’s Law” is named in memory of North Carolina teen Phylicia Barnes, who disappeared in 2010 while visiting Baltimore and was found dead months later. Carter plans to introduce it this session.

The case spurred broader interest in missing persons cases and experts and community members discovered gaps as they helped law enforcement search for Barnes. Some were concerned that the fact that Barnes was black kept the case from getting the media attention it deserved, but her father, Russell, said pressure from a missing person’s family plays a role more than race.

“We really want this bill to take off with wings,” he said. “But Phylicia is just one in a million.”

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The bill, which is still a draft, would require state officials to oversee efforts to find children and ensure that local law enforcement, missing children’s organizations, experts and families work together to find children. It would also have to publish the names and relevant information about missing children and annual statistics.

 

[Indy Anna]

http://www.wbtv.com/story/16371159/...-in-barnes-investigation?clienttype=printable
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"Investigators have worked the case continually and progress has been made, although making the details of that progress public at this time could hinder the outcome of the investigation, he said, "The work of investigators has included re-interviewing family and friends, reviewing evidence, searching for and analyzing additional evidence, and conducting forensic examinations."

IDK. I hope it's true, but seems they're just trying to placate the public who are demanding answers.

Where is justice for Phylicia???

 

[Indy Anna]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/enterta.../bs-ae-missing-zontv-20120127,0,5761422.story
African-American focused 'Find Our Missing' aims to fill the void left by mainstream media
TV One series hosted by S. Epatha Merkerson wants to raise the profile of black victims
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But Sheri Parks, an associate professor of American studies at the University of Maryland, College Park, says it is not the first national media effort in finding missing black children. Parks, author of "Fierce Angels: The Strong Black Woman in American Life and Culture," says blacks have been using the Internet for years to create "virtual communities" around such cases as that of Phylicia Barnes, the 16-year-old North Carolina honor student who came to visit relatives in Baltimore and went missing Dec. 28, 2010. Her body was found last April in the Susquehanna River near the Conowingo Dam.

"Before TV One, there has been a lot of interesting activity on black websites by black folks from all walks of life around this issue, especially with the Phylicia Barnes case," Parks says. "I think that Internet pressure by blacks played an important role in keeping the pressure on the police and the rest of the mainstream media.

The Barnes case did receive prominent coverage in The Baltimore Sun and The Charlotte Observer, says Burton, who lived in North Carolina before coming to Goucher.

"Maybe it is because I lived in both Charlotte and Baltimore," Burton says. "But to me, the Phylicia Barnes case was the first time where I really saw the media in both cities actually get behind trying to find this child. And that's just highly, highly unusual, even though there was a multistate search for this girl. This missing child was Page One news in both of those cities."

 

[AnonymousD]

I am on the opposite end of the state as Charlotte, and I saw Phylicia's beautiful face on TV many, many nights. Interviews with her schoolmates, her mother, showing the schoolmates wearing purple....I know every child, regardless of race, doesn't get TV time when they go missing, but Phylicia got it down here in our end of the "country". I hope that, somehow, they all can get TV time.