ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 1

[PlainJaneDoe]

Declined to comment on whether anything was found at the house.

He said again that they don't want any stone left unturned. I think that this was in response to a question about what areas are being searched.

Saying that the parents (?) cooperative.

No pending charges, no one POI, etc. Earlier, he had said that he doesn't want to comment on what might have happened to A., what condition she might be in,etc.

Sorry this is disjointed - I really cannot hear the questions at all.

Saying that there are lots of people in the field and they are very, very focused.

 

[deelytful1]

Given the statistics, i don't understand WHY he is avoiding the obvious!

 

[krimekat]

FBI team left? Oh, for the search, I assume . . .

 

[krimekat]

Given the statistics, i don't understand WHY he is avoiding the obvious!

Apparently, that is not logical in this situation at this time

feel like a Vulcan . . . :innocent:

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Doesn't know how big an area the FBI team are gonna "do" as he didn't speak to them before they left. (Didn't hear the question AT ALL.)

Fliers have been distributed.

They focus their attn on finding the child, based on what info they uncover as they go along, what tips there are as they come in, leads as they come in...

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Id be layin down on that porch if it were me...getting answers(NG)

I hate that

The mom lives quite a bit away and has been told to not be there by LE:furious:

I go to both places all the time. South Portland and Waterville. It is about an hour and 15 minutes on the Turnpike.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Someone was walking the banks of the river and doing a flyover, low water --> visibility much better.

Lots of local tips.

Doesn't wanna speculate about the possibility that A is outside state of ME.

He's not one of the investigators. (Not sure who this guy is...chit.)

About 75 personnel involved in gnd search, state/local/fed agents.

Chit, got to go, got a meeting with my mentor. :maddening:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

It seems like this LE is doing everything they can to not alienate the parents.
I've heard him say several times, almost with emphasis, that they are cooperating.

I was thinking the same thing ... lol ... it almost seemed like he had some "hesitation" there for a second ...

And LE is keeping very :silenced::silenced::silenced: about the "father's" house and WHO ELSE was there that night ... oh, and the vehicles that were taken ...

MOO ...

 

[deelytful1]

Apparently, that is not logical in this situation at this time

feel like a Vulcan . . . :innocent:

LOL.. My point.. it IS logical given missing child statistics. So tired of the pussyfooting of LE in these cases in the beginning when it is PRIME time for them to shake up the guilty parent (IF THERE IS ONE, of course) If the parent isn't guilty they'll understand LE was doing what they had too! IMHO... of course and TG I've never had to experience this first hand

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

"This is a missing child's case at this point" Chief of Police...

Truly bothered that no lie detector tests have been given to ALL who were in the home. That is a "normal" part of an investigation for a missing child. To assume it is a "missing child's case" is putting more "emphasis" that the child may have left the home on her own, as opposed to an abduction or God forbid..a death. I think his PR person needs to have him continue to state "we do not know if we are looking at a missing or abducted child, or foul play, at this time." It would leave more avenues open for someone else in the public who may have information to come forward. It would also lead to a possible tip from someone who may know all of those involved in this child's life to come forward. However, given the context as to how it is being reported...anyone who may feel they have information may hold back as to not want to be "embarassed" or "to cause trouble."

 

[deelytful1]

Truly bothered that no lie detector tests have been given to ALL who were in the home. That is a "normal" part of an investigation for a missing child. To assume it is a "missing child's case" is putting more "emphasis" that the child may have left the home on her own, as opposed to an abduction or God forbid..a death. I think his PR person needs to have him continue to state "we do not know if we are looking at a missing or abducted child, or foul play, at this time." It would leave more avenues open for someone else in the public who may have information to come forward. It would also lead to a possible tip from someone who may know all of those involved in this child's life to come forward. However, given the context as to how it is being reported...anyone who may feel they have information may hold back as to not want to be "embarassed" or "to cause trouble."

AGREED! I think all LE in this country needs a handbook on how to investigate a missing child case and it should include LDTs, DNA, fingerprints, interviews, GPS tracking, search and seizure of vehicles, etc etc of all related parties involved while they simultaneously perform a "missing child" search / searches.. if they do not agree, then LE has the right to hold them in contempt. I know, I know.. I'm dreaming sigh

 

[krimekat]

LOL.. My point.. it IS logical given missing child statistics. So tired of the pussyfooting of LE in these cases in the beginning when it is PRIME time for them to shake up the guilty parent (IF THERE IS ONE, of course) If the parent isn't guilty they'll understand LE was doing what they had too! IMHO... of course and TG I've never had to experience this first hand

And respectfully, that is my point, too! LE states that at this time they're following the logical path in this case & that the parents are cooperating with them. Not everyone wants to be in the media or want their "15 minutes of fame". I cannot say that I'd go on TV to plead for a missing child -- I'd let LE handle it, probably. But I just don't know . . .

Sometimes parents are not responsible for missing children. To me it detracts from the facts when there is a vengeful mentality involved, so I try to :fence: until facts are available.

So, mom lives in a motel, eh, with her mom?

Speculation is fun, but as indicated by LE in the presser, they're not speculating anything at this point. Wild!

 

[dog.gone.cute]

AGREED! I think all LE in this country needs a handbook on how to investigate a missing child case and it should include LDTs, DNA, fingerprints, interviews, GPS tracking, search and seizure of vehicles, etc etc of all related parties involved while they simultaneously perform a "missing child" search / searches.. if they do not agree, then LE has the right to hold them in contempt. I know, I know.. I'm dreaming sigh

BBM: I totally agree ...

And may I add that all the bolded above should be done within the first 2 hours of WHEN the 9-1-1 call is made and LE gets to the home ...

I know I know -- it is a LOT to do ... but "something" needs to be done and changes need to be made to the "system" ...

IMO ... too many are getting away with "murder" ...

MOO ...

 

[not_my_kids]

AGREED! I think all LE in this country needs a handbook on how to investigate a missing child case and it should include LDTs, DNA, fingerprints, interviews, GPS tracking, search and seizure of vehicles, etc etc of all related parties involved while they simultaneously perform a "missing child" search / searches.. if they do not agree, then LE has the right to hold them in contempt. I know, I know.. I'm dreaming sigh

Wow, I think I might be the only one here that is glad things aren't handled that way. Yes, I think that it is important to find a missing kid, and yes, this seems to be hitting epidemic proportions. But, my reasoning is that if a parent did kill the child, then they have time to figure that out later. It is very rare for a child to be hidden by one parent effectively for anything more than a few hours unless the parent is missing too. That means that if a child really did disappear in the middle night, either they are likely already dead, and forensics and time will reveal that anyway, or they are still alive and in a very dangerous situation. I would rather they pussyfoot with the parents for the first couple of days, because if there is anything the parents can remember, someone watching them, sounds or things out of place, that is not going to come to mind when they have a police department coming down on them like a ton of bricks. MOO.

 

[askfornina]

And respectfully, that is my point, too! LE states that at this time they're following the logical path in this case & that the parents are cooperating with them. Not everyone wants to be in the media or want their "15 minutes of fame". I cannot say that I'd go on TV to plead for a missing child -- I'd let LE handle it, probably. But I just don't know . . .

Sometimes parents are not responsible for missing children. To me it detracts from the facts when there is a vengeful mentality involved, so I try to :fence: until facts are available.

So, mom lives in a motel, eh, with her mom?

Speculation is fun, but as indicated by LE in the presser, they're not speculating anything at this point. Wild!

Wow, I think I might be the only one here that is glad things aren't handled that way. Yes, I think that it is important to find a missing kid, and yes, this seems to be hitting epidemic proportions. But, my reasoning is that if a parent did kill the child, then they have time to figure that out later. It is very rare for a child to be hidden by one parent effectively for anything more than a few hours unless the parent is missing too. That means that if a child really did disappear in the middle night, either they are likely already dead, and forensics and time will reveal that anyway, or they are still alive and in a very dangerous situation. I would rather they pussyfoot with the parents for the first couple of days, because if there is anything the parents can remember, someone watching them, sounds or things out of place, that is not going to come to mind when they have a police department coming down on them like a ton of bricks. MOO.

i totally agree with both of you. :rocker: said it better than i ever could have! i have been very impressed with this police department so far. i have no reason to doubt them at this time.

 

[DairyGirl]

Isn't it sad that all these press conferences sound exactly the same. It's like they have a script.

 

[cluciano63]

Wow, I think I might be the only one here that is glad things aren't handled that way. Yes, I think that it is important to find a missing kid, and yes, this seems to be hitting epidemic proportions. But, my reasoning is that if a parent did kill the child, then they have time to figure that out later. It is very rare for a child to be hidden by one parent effectively for anything more than a few hours unless the parent is missing too. That means that if a child really did disappear in the middle night, either they are likely already dead, and forensics and time will reveal that anyway, or they are still alive and in a very dangerous situation. I would rather they pussyfoot with the parents for the first couple of days, because if there is anything the parents can remember, someone watching them, sounds or things out of place, that is not going to come to mind when they have a police department coming down on them like a ton of bricks. MOO.

The only problem is...forensics AREN'T revealing things in any of these cases that is leading to an outcome of any type, From Haleigh C., to Hailey D. to Kyron, to Hassani, to Sky, to Lisa, to Aliayah, to Joshua, to on and on and on.

I DO believe that in the case of a young child, parents need to be viewed as suspects first, victims later. Sorry. They are the ones responsible for the safety and lives of the children they bear. LE has not been getting anywhere in these cases, IMO, by "working" with the parents or treading lightly so as not to "alienate" them.

JMOJMOJMOJMOJMO

 

[cityslick]

Wow, I think I might be the only one here that is glad things aren't handled that way. Yes, I think that it is important to find a missing kid, and yes, this seems to be hitting epidemic proportions. But, my reasoning is that if a parent did kill the child, then they have time to figure that out later. It is very rare for a child to be hidden by one parent effectively for anything more than a few hours unless the parent is missing too. That means that if a child really did disappear in the middle night, either they are likely already dead, and forensics and time will reveal that anyway, or they are still alive and in a very dangerous situation. I would rather they pussyfoot with the parents for the first couple of days, because if there is anything the parents can remember, someone watching them, sounds or things out of place, that is not going to come to mind when they have a police department coming down on them like a ton of bricks. MOO.

I agree, you can't start going around treating parents like criminals, regardless of whatever statistics there is. They shouldn't be getting LDT's if there is no basis for one based on circumstances and evidence.

There is a FCA effect. Everyone now is so scared that someone is going to get 'away' with it when in reality, 95% of the time they don't get away with it. You can't change the system for 5%.

 

[not_my_kids]

Isn't it sad that all these press conferences sound exactly the same. It's like they have a script.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I didn't hear the first one, but I head the one yesterday and today's. It was a bit like deja vu.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Wow, I think I might be the only one here that is glad things aren't handled that way. Yes, I think that it is important to find a missing kid, and yes, this seems to be hitting epidemic proportions. But, my reasoning is that if a parent did kill the child, then they have time to figure that out later. It is very rare for a child to be hidden by one parent effectively for anything more than a few hours unless the parent is missing too. That means that if a child really did disappear in the middle night, either they are likely already dead, and forensics and time will reveal that anyway, or they are still alive and in a very dangerous situation. I would rather they pussyfoot with the parents for the first couple of days, because if there is anything the parents can remember, someone watching them, sounds or things out of place, that is not going to come to mind when they have a police department coming down on them like a ton of bricks. MOO.

MOO ...

BBM: It just gives the parents MORE time for the parents to "lawyer up" when LE is "taking its time" going through the usual SOP and "pussyfooting around" ...

JMO ... but there needs to be a "better system" in place so that LE can rule them out quicker ... or NOT at all ...

MOO ...