ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 2

[JeannieC]

Based on the searches I'm aware of and other cases here on WS I believe the immediate family, especially those directly involved with the missing person do not participate in the searches. They usually remain at the command center. This is for their protection, can you imagine finding your own child or loved one deceased, and to protect the evidence.

I think I read at the beginning that neither parent had legal custody of Ayla and the mother had just filed papers for custody.

moo

 

[Patty G]

Nancy Grace just updated her fb. so now, i wonder if this is the paternal grandfather?


Just in: daddy of missing tot girl issues statement saying he doesn't know what happened to his little baby Ayla but wants his privacy! Do you believe daddy's claim he told cops everything? Primetime exclusive tonight: missing tot's grandfather breaks his silence!

http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN?sk=wall

Sure sounds like it is Justin's father. Countdown to the show and we will soon know.

 

[Coldpizza]

FWIW she seems pretty coherent in her interviews IMO
I also feel she is genuine and has nothing to do with Ayla going missing. Her actions may have precipitated it but I don't think she's involved at all.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

That would be me. But you did a 100% perfect job explaining this.

ETA: Even if he put his name on the birth certificate or signed a voluntary declaration of paternity, a judgment of "paternity" would still have to be obtained.

Thanks Kat AND Gitana! I am learning sooo much from sleuthing thanks to sleuthers like you all!:seeya:

 

[krimekat]

so did Trista & Justin have an agreement about Ayla's care or did CFS remove Ayla?

 

[vlpate]

There are various rehab programs. Choices made often depend on insurance coverage (or lack of).
Some programs offer approx. 3 day detox only, some offer longer inpatient 4 days to 30 days to months.
Some offer outpatient half or full day .
There are probably even more variations than these. But, I think the money issue is a major concern, as is the severity of the addiction.
JMO

I had a property once where almost all the employees had come from rehab - don't ask. Anyway, none were rich by any means, and I don't know how their rehab was paid for, but they were all in for at least 30 days and then had to attend AA meetings once a week (even the one busted for drugs). If I remember correctly, and it's been 20 years, they had all been in trouble with the law....so maybe rehab was a requirement for their probation, just don't recall. I know Tristanl doesn't have a criminal record, but if rehab was a trade-off to keep something off her record, that may be the key?

Nancy Grace told a caller last night that no drugs were involved - so maybe it was alcohol rehab and not drug related. Or Nancy was wrong.... :floorlaugh:

 

[katydid23]

NG is opening with Aisha Khan.

 

[vlpate]

so did Trista & Justin have an agreement about Ayla's care or did CFS remove Ayla?

She was given to Justin because the mother went into rehab, from what I understand - via CFS.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

here's what Chief Massey said about the searching:

Q: Is it true that you told Trista Reynolds not to search, and has Justin Dipietro and his family expressed an interest in searching to police?
A: I personally do not have any information that she has asked to participate in the searches, nor do I have any information that Justin has.
Q: Would you have given them permission? Is that something you would know about if it happened?
A: Not necessarily. We have talked to the family, and as I said the family continues to be fully cooperative. If they at some point had offered that to investigators, I'm not sure.
Q: Would they be allowed to?
A: Uh, when we do a search, we determine the type of searchers that we need. In some areas, we need the specialized training that I talked about these folks have today. In other searches, we ask for volunteers, and we go ahead and coordinate that. That's something that the search coordinator would make some determination on.

http://www.wmtw.com/video/30048773/detail.html

Is it just me, or is this a lot of words that don't answer any question clearly?
Maybe I am having a brain blip? :waitasec: No offense to LE, they DO need to protect their info.

 

[krimekat]

She was given to Justin because the mother went into rehab, from what I understand - via CFS.

Yes, we know this now but Trista's own comments were she & Justin had an agreement that he would care for Ayla when she went to Rehab if he moved back to his mother's house.

+ Mom's family has not seen Ayla since 17 Oct
+ 10 days in Rehab & no residence & 9 month baby
+ Ayla living with Gma & Aunt prior to CFS involvement
+ Someone said Justin didn't want anything to do with Ayla prior to June (what happened then?)

Praying for Ayla

 

[JeannieC]

Trista's brother was on JVM saying that Ayla's dad would not 'bring Ayla home to her mom.' So my question is, after 2 months went by, why didn't she go there herself, with an LE escort, and retrieve her child. Something tells me that she did not have sole legal custody, or I think she would have done that.

And didn't she say earlier that she had asked him to MOVE HOME with his mother so he could care for Ayla. Why would he move home and uproot himself just for a 10 day period of time?

In most states a parent has to go to court if a parent refuses to return a child. The court executes the order and LE can go get the child. However, since neither of the parents had legal custody of Ayla her mother had to first go to court for custody before she could do anything. LE won't go out without a court order.

 

[Patty G]

It almost sounds like when Trista went to rehab, Ayla went to Trista's sister.

Perhaps Justin found out that Ayla was with Trista's sister, and maybe he got DHF involved to bring Ayla to his house.

Perhaps Trista agreed to it, maybe until she got out of rehab, and then once Trista got out of rehab, Justin refused to give Ayla back to her. Once this happened, it appears that is why Trista went to file the paperwork to get Ayla back.

 

[askfornina]

It almost sounds like when Trista went to rehab, Ayla went to Trista's sister.

Perhaps Justin found out that Ayla was with Trista's sister, and maybe he got DHF involved to bring Ayla to his house.

Perhaps Trista agreed to it, maybe until she got out of rehab, and then once Trista got out of rehab, Justin refused to give Ayla back to her. Once this happened, it appears that is why Trista went to file the paperwork to get Ayla back.

i agree. :goodpost:

 

[Trixi]

Based on the searches I'm aware of and other cases here on WS I believe the immediate family, especially those directly involved with the missing person do not participate in the searches. They usually remain at the command center. This is for their protection, can you imagine finding your own child or loved one deceased, and to protect the evidence.
I think I read at the beginning that neither parent had legal custody of Ayla and the mother had just filed papers for custody.

moo

So true! This became THE RULE in all LE agencies because of the contaminated evidence in the Jon Benet Ramsey case.

 

[katydid23]

It almost sounds like when Trista went to rehab, Ayla went to Trista's sister.

Perhaps Justin found out that Ayla was with Trista's sister, and maybe he got DHF involved to bring Ayla to his house.

Perhaps Trista agreed to it, maybe until she got out of rehab, and then once Trista got out of rehab, Justin refused to give Ayla back to her. Once this happened, it appears that is why Trista went to file the paperwork to get Ayla back.

So my next question would be WHY didn't he want to give the baby back to her mom. Was he loving fatherhood so much that he couldn't stand to return her? Or was he not wanting to pay child support if he did so? Or was he worried about some injuries she had sustained?

I have to say that I am on the fence about the dad. I think Mom has been doing an all out attack and I am not sure I believe everything she has put out there so far.

 

[Donjeta]

So my next question would be WHY didn't he want to give the baby back to her mom. Was he loving fatherhood so much that he couldn't stand to return her? Or was he not wanting to pay child support if he did so? Or was he worried about some injuries she had sustained?

I have to say that I am on the fence about the dad. I think Mom has been doing an all out attack and I am not sure I believe everything she has put out there so far.

I hope it's not the case but he could have kept her because she had got some injuries that had to heal before she could be returned.

If there was no formal agreement about custody and no determination of paternity had been filed would he have been required to pay child support?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I started an album for Ayla on photobucket.com. http://s1185.photobucket.com/albums/z344/PlainJane_WS/Ayla Reynolds/

I have never used photobucket before, so please be patient. :blushing:

My Gosh! You are working SOOO hard on this project and I bow down to you!
Other sleuthers are providing technical help and I just keep pressing "Thanks!" because I really have no clue what any of the computer jargon means!
nline::dunno::yourock:

 

[katydid23]

I hope it's not the case but he could have kept her because she had got some injuries that had to heal before she could be returned.

If there was no formal agreement about custody and no determination of paternity had been filed would he have been required to pay child support?

I think that once CPS gets involved then child support becomes an issue legally.

And I agree. I really hope he was not trying to hide any injuries.

 

[Patty G]

So my next question would be WHY didn't he want to give the baby back to her mom. Was he loving fatherhood so much that he couldn't stand to return her? Or was he not wanting to pay child support if he did so? Or was he worried about some injuries she had sustained?

I have to say that I am on the fence about the dad. I think Mom has been doing an all out attack and I am not sure I believe everything she has put out there so far.

Just some of my thoughts ....

Maybe Justin's mother didn't want Ayla to go back to her mother.

It would cost Justin more money to care for Ayla 24/7 for the next 18 years of Ayla's life then it would to pay child support.

It is very possible that Justin didn't want Ayla to go back to her mother to avoid investigating injuries Ayla has and how old they are, etc., etc.

Trista is saying a lot about Justin, of which, is pretty typical to lash out at Justin based on the fact Ayla is missing. On that note, I just don't feel Trista is the cause of Ayla's disappearance.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

that was posted 23 hours ago, and NG had the maternal grandmother on last night as you probably know, so i don't think so i'd be very interested too.

Oops! Sorry! I was behind in reading the thread, and had the times mixed up!
:blushing: