ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[hambirg]

Just my thoughts this morning. . .

As far as "The American Polygraph Association Standards and Ethics Committee require that the examinee be given the results if requested." Link? Because I went here. . .
http://www.polygraph.org/section/about-us/laws-and-standards-practice
and didn't find any such thing.

A poster asked if we know if harm came to Ayla. I guess that depends on how you interpret LE's statements. What they said was. . .

WATERVILLE, Maine — The search for Ayla Reynolds has entered a new phase with the announcement Friday night that the case is now a criminal investigation.

“At this point, we believe that foul play has occurred in connection with Ayla’s disappearance,” read a press release from Waterville police Chief Joseph Massey. “The case has evolved from the search for a missing child to a criminal investigation.”

http://bangordailynews.com/2011/12/...nolds-continues-into-another-holiday-weekend/

I realize that can be interpreted a couple different ways, but we have to consider that it could mean that LE believes or has evidence that harm came to Ayla. We certainly can't rule it out.

Lastly, I was thinking about that darn gate. It was so oddly included in the first rendition that it actually stuck out like a sore thumb. That begs the question why. I think it can only point to it's relevance in some way. But I'm not convinced that it isn't "the pool ladder" in a way (referring to the CA trial). I'm just not sure if something bad did happen to Ayla, like an accidental fall down the stairs, that all three adults there that night would agree to a cover-up of an accident. Would the gate come into play if Ayla is found and the defense story is going to be it was an accident? :waitasec: I'm just trying to make sense if it.

MOO

 

[lauriej]

http://twitter.com/issueswithjvm

issueswithjvm We are going to talk to a close friend of baby Ayla's mom tonight. What would you ask her? #Ayla #JVM
about 1 hour ago

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just my thoughts this morning. . .

Lastly, I was thinking about that darn gate. It was so oddly included in the first rendition that it actually stuck out like a sore thumb. That begs the question why. I think it can only point to it's relevance in some way. But I'm not convinced that it isn't "the pool ladder" in a way (referring to the CA trial). I'm just not sure if something bad did happen to Ayla, like an accidental fall down the stairs, that all three adults there that night would agree to a cover-up of an accident. Would the gate come into play if Ayla is found and the defense story is going to be it was an accident? :waitasec: I'm just trying to make sense if it.

MOO

Snipped and BBM: Your "comparison" does make sense and I can see what you are saying -- that it could be the DiPietro's "defense strategy".

The "gate" was first mentioned in Justin's friend's blog ... then the "gate" in the story went "poof" ... WHY did the gate "disappear" in the story ? AH had to get that info from somebody in that house -- there's no way she could have made that up about the gate. :waitasec: Well ...

Oh how I wish someone would tell us :
- IF there was a "gate" up.
- IF the gate is still up.
- IF the gate is NOT up.
- IF LE found the gate or any remnants of the gate.

And then again, the gate may NOT have had anything to do with what really happened to Ayla ...

So many questions and as usual, not enough answers ...

MOO ...

 

[katydid23]

If Ayla had fallen down the stairs, knocking over the gate,wouldn't there be forensic evidence of that? Especially if it were a violent enough incident to cause her death. If it wasn't, would they kill her to avoid calling an ambulance? I can't imagine so.

But if she died falling down the stairs then i think the cadaver dogs would pick it up. And there would be blood splatter, or evidence of recent deep cleaning. imo

AND, if people begin to accuse JD of murder or kidnapping, wouldn't his sister or gf or mother just come clean and say it was an accidental fall already?

 

[HiHater]

Just my thoughts this morning. . .

As far as "The American Polygraph Association Standards and Ethics Committee require that the examinee be given the results if requested." Link? Because I went here. . .
http://www.polygraph.org/section/about-us/laws-and-standards-practice
and didn't find any such thing.

Respectfully snipped by me.

Below TR's statement regarding her LDT on aylareynolds.com is a link to a website, and this info can be found at that website and others...

http://www.accreditedpolygraphservices.com/polygraph-questions.php#question-9

 

[hambirg]

Respectfully snipped by me.

Below TR's statement regarding her LDT on aylareynolds.com is a link to a website, and this info can be found at that website and others...

http://www.accreditedpolygraphservices.com/polygraph-questions.php#question-9

Ok. . I wonder where they are getting that from because the only thing in the Code of Ethics from the American Polygraph Association that mentions anything like that at all is this. . .

4.3 Post-Examination Notification of Results
4.3.1 A member shall afford each examinee a reasonable opportunity to explain physiological reactions to relevant questions in the recordings. There are three exceptions:

4.3.1.1 When the examinee is represented by an attorney who requests that no post-examination interview be conducted, and that the results of the examination be released only to the attorney.

4.3.1.2 When the examination is being conducted by court order which stipulates that no post-examination interview is to be conducted.

4.3.1.3 Instances of operational necessity.
http://www.polygraph.org/section/about-us/code-ethics

 

[C-Squared]

Respectfully snipped by me.

Below TR's statement regarding her LDT on aylareynolds.com is a link to a website, and this info can be found at that website and others...

http://www.accreditedpolygraphservices.com/polygraph-questions.php#question-9

I'm curious to know why they chose to link to that particular site. It's for a company that administers the test and they don't serve Maine. Just another thing that makes me go hmmmm? :waitasec:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If Ayla had fallen down the stairs, knocking over the gate,wouldn't there be forensic evidence of that? Especially if it were a violent enough incident to cause her death. If it wasn't, would they kill her to avoid calling an ambulance? I can't imagine so.

But if she died falling down the stairs then i think the cadaver dogs would pick it up. And there would be blood splatter, or evidence of recent deep cleaning. imo

AND, if people begin to accuse JD of murder or kidnapping, wouldn't his sister or gf or mother just come clean and say it was an accidental fall already?

BBM: IF there was truly an "accident", I think someone would have called 9-1-1 for medical help ...

BUT ... would someone call 9-1-1 if they are :

- under the influence of alcohol ...
- under the influence of "illegal substances ...
- and have been to the E.R. as recent as a month ago with the baby who you had a fall with going up the steps who suffered a broken arm ...

JMO ... but I don't think there was an "accident" ...

One other thing : Because of the "custody agreement" that is or was an issue here, it is real easy for Justin, GF and family to "point the finger" at the mother, Trista, as the person who "took the baby" ... blah blah blah ...

And LE knows this is NOT true because IMO, they would have been able to "break" Trista down by now ...

LE just needs the body ... then we will probably hear it was "an accident" and all the defense strategy baloney that goes along with it ...

MOO ...

 

[tlcya]

I agree, LE may not have said it, but they know exactly where Trista was and was not on the night of the "disappearance." and IMO - her alibi has checked out.

Based off of the searches done thus far, I don't think it is a stretch to believe that LE suspicions fall squarely upon someone within or visiting that household that night.

all the usual :cow: s apply

 

[naturallyme]

I agree, LE may not have said it, but they know exactly where Trista was and was not on the night of the "disappearance." and IMO - her alibi has checked out.

LE has stated they have persons of interest but decline to name them. Based off of the searches done thus far, I don't think it is a stretch to believe that their suspicions fall squarely upon someone within or visiting that household that night.

all the usual :cow: s apply

Not questioning you at all on this but do you have a link. I must have missed that one.

 

[ThoughtFox]

If Ayla had fallen down the stairs, knocking over the gate,wouldn't there be forensic evidence of that? Especially if it were a violent enough incident to cause her death. If it wasn't, would they kill her to avoid calling an ambulance? I can't imagine so.

But if she died falling down the stairs then i think the cadaver dogs would pick it up. And there would be blood splatter, or evidence of recent deep cleaning. imo

AND, if people begin to accuse JD of murder or kidnapping, wouldn't his sister or gf or mother just come clean and say it was an accidental fall already?

There might not be any blood if there was internal bleeding or head injury.

However, there must have been something because LE turned that house upside down.

Think about it this way - what if the gate wasn't there that night, but Ayla wandered towards the stairs and fell down. That might be considered neglect and a good reason for a coverup.

See, I think the whole "Justin accidentally broke the gate in the morning" line from the original blog post was an explanation they gave the cops. What if the gate had been broken for a while and those little children really weren't protected by any gate at all?

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

When I read the first rendition of JD's emotional experiences I was under the impression that this "stuff" was pulled from daily phone convos that AH had with JD. After I finished reading the first edition I thought that someone was writing an over-the-top novel - it was like a cake with a two-inch thick sick frosting of powdered sugar and shortening.
I was surprised and hurt to read that we are really bad for picking on JD. Well, to me that's better than picking our noses. Sometimes it is just too hard to think of something nice to say about what someone else thinks. KWIM

I just read some of the glowing commentary she has received from supporters of JD. I am overflowing with :sick:

IMO

OT - BBM, Can't wait to use this in a conversation! (Not being sarcastic.)

 

[lauriej]

--JVM has trista's "best friend"--and godmother, Amanda Brenner coming up now on HLN.

http://www.rentadrone.tv/hln-live-stream-feed/

--Issues w/ JVM--Live Stream--

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Bumping to keep prayers so that this beautiful child will be located safely.

 

[lauriej]

I don't see it? There is one link that says Poster Pledge and goes to a non functioning Facebook page.

--you're right--thanks.

--both the "poster pledge" F/B and the "join our F/B page" on the light of maine site now go no-where..

 

[cluciano63]

A defense attorney on NG was very depressing...said that there is nothing LE can do to make anyone tell the truth, or to find out if they are holding back, if the person does not want to be honest, basically saying what we already know, without physical evidence this could go on forever, like Haleigh, etc...

 

[matou]

The 'playing dumb' and the 'silent treatment' are the most effective defense strategies there are these days. JMO

 

[katydid23]

so JVM built up this interview with the friend. She said she will tell us who was in the home that night, etc.

Then the woman got on there and said she only knew what she saw on the news, pretty much. lol FAIL

 

[cluciano63]

so JVM built up this interview with the friend. She said she will tell us who was in the home that night, etc.

Then the woman got on there and said she only knew what she saw on the news, pretty much. lol FAIL

It is so seldom that either JVM or NG are even caught up to us here at WS...I expect nothing, am seldom disappointed...JMO

 

[ynotdivein]

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