MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[MerlinFalcon]

I think the strong backlash from just about all sectors is because of the lies that were told about the shooting of Alex Pretti.

If the shooting of Alex Pretti had been handled differently and the victim not immediately blamed for being shot 10 times after being pepper-sprayed, tackled, and pinned to the ground, I think the feds would be receiving support or at least silence from their usual supporters, not widespread condemnation. imo

Finding justification for the shooting of Alex Pretti is too far for most people. imo

jmo

The outrage started before we heard from them. Anyone with eyes could watch the videos and see what was happening and I think we all knew what the powers that be would say. Then the outrage increased tenfold. There was absolutely no reason for any of this to happen. Throwing the woman to the ground was not necessary. Alex was an innocent victim in all of this as well. There was no reason to shoot him once, let alone ten or eleven times.

 

[Charlot123]

So many posts attempting to smear the victim!

It won’t change anything.

Remember all the campaign against George Floyd? It didn’t reach the goal because regardless of who Floyd was, and his prior history, a policeman, Chauvin, had no legal right to treat him like it.

And later, it led to lots of protests that shook the country, and good cops also took the blame, and were defunded, and I doubt that any of them supports Chauvin.

This situation is very different, politically, but I doubt that any of the group who killed Pretti is going to be promoted for it.

All those involved in killing of Alex Pretti need to be known, the contents of Pretti’s phone have to be given to his family, it was his intellectual property, and if the DSHS extends immunity to his executioners, then Minnesota will decide what to do.

 

[303gmf]

Yes, I was wondering about reaction as I've never heard of a US president using that kind of language. Trump isn't a president like any who have gone before him in my lifetime.

Thankful! Here’s hoping the voters correct the yuuuge mistake

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Is there a thread for Marimar Martinez?

I reject the idea that enforcing border laws is comparable to the systematic genocide of over 6,000,000 Jews.

@BayouBelle_LA ... Before you reject, I suggest you study what was going on in Germany between 1929-1933,

FOUR YEARS Hitler had to connive, plan, set up corrupt dealings, and constantly discredit and lie about his opponents (Democratic Republic). He was now winning over the Middle Class... to honor him, to rotely repeat his lies, and to do his damage.
Once in power in 1933, he slowly and steadily began to round up and imprison people for often meaningless crimes.

This was WAY before anyone knew of 600,000 murders.

If you cannot see why so many folks have a fear of "History Repeating Itself"... well..... Respectively, I think you are really missing something.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-nazi-rise-to-power

 

[303gmf]

The confusing thing to me is about the face covers. ICE is not new profession/dept - around for a long while - but wearing the face covers is new. What gives?

Some say its for their own protection - so they don't get "doxxed" - I don't get that either.
All Law enforcement has a job -I don't know any other division that wears the neck gaiters over their faces.

I've yet to hear an explanation that makes sense to me.

I think all LE should wear ID and have no face coverings. They are supposed to the ones to keep us safe - we should know who they are. Unless of course undercover.

JMO

My theory is many are unqualified, J6’ers, proud boys, 3 percenters, white supremacists, militia and failed military trigger happy <modsnip: No name calling>

 

[Stunned]

Bovino is losing his "commander" title, federal officials told NBC News, and will return to the border in El Centro, California, to resume his previous job as sector chief there.
Live updates: Bovino set to leave Minneapolis as Trump reshuffles immigration operation

An unnamed source told Reuters that Bovino had been stripped of his specially created title of “commander at large” of the Border Patrol, but the Department of Homeland Security has pushed back on the demotion reports. “Chief Gregory Bovino has NOT been relieved of his duties,” the DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said, pointing to earlier comments from the White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, praising Bovino as a “key part of the president’s team and a great American”.
Bovino’s future in doubt as White House walks back initial claims about Alex Pretti – US politics live

Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., urged Trump in a post to X to "immediately fire" Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.
[snip]
Fetterman had been one of the handful of Democrats who voted to confirm Noem to her cabinet position.
Sen. John Fetterman calls for DHS Secretary Kristi Noem to be fired

I hope it's to warm for that coat of his!

 

[Stunned]

Federal investigators are reviewing body camera footage related to the killing of Alex Pretti, the 37-year-old nurse who was fatally shot in Minneapolis on Saturday by federal agents involved in President Trump’s immigration crackdown.

“There is body camera footage from multiple angles, which investigators are currently reviewing,” the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement to The New York Times on Monday...

The evidence is being stored in a secure evidence room at the F.B.I.’s Minneapolis field office, according to the memo. The document also stated that “CBP has preserved all relevant body-worn camera footage from the incident and will do so for 75 years,”

Minneapolis Live Updates: Walz Meets With Trump’s New Leader of ICE Operations in Minnesota

The president said he wanted an “honorable” inquiry into the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis man by federal agents, but again blamed the man for carrying a legally permitted weapon.

www.nytimes.com

Unfortunately I don't trust anything this government does. A secure locked room? I guess they'll release that entirely one day too! IMO

 

[LAborn]

When I look at the footage I see a man go to help a woman who's been shoved. I then see him pepper sprayed, beaten up and shot to death.

But some people are seeing people getting in the way of LE trying to apprehend violent criminals. That is what the job of ICE is supposed to be, isn't it?

Could we all try and step back and realise that neither of these two perspectives is 100% incorrect, and that people seeing it from the other side are not bad people?

There isn't a "both sides" here. Maybe this will help you understand what happened just prior to ICE killing Pretti. There is no excuse, no justification for his brutal murder. NONE.

"Nilson Barahona, another witness, told CNN that he was at Glam Doll Donuts on the same street when someone fleeing federal agents ran into the restaurant. The donut shop staff quickly locked the doors, and when agents couldn’t get inside, they turned their attention to “those who were outside, who had come to help,” Barahona said. Outside the restaurant, Barahona said observers began making noise and blowing their whistles.

A video recorded by someone nearby and analyzed by CNN shows a group of about ten federal agents gathered outside the donut store, while observers including Pretti watch from across the street. About three minutes before the shooting, two officers walk across the street, confronting Pretti and other observers in nearly the same spot where he was later shot dead.

One officer, wearing a dark-colored jacket and light-brown beanie, is seen placing a hand on Pretti’s torso and pushing him backwards out of the street as Pretti records with his phone. “Do not touch me,” Pretti shouts at the officer, adding, “I am out of the traffic… you are the one who is in the traffic.” https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/alex-pretti-shooting-minneapolis-videos-witnesses-invs

 

[SouthAussie]

The president has made new remarks today about the shooting and he is apparently now against the 2nd amendment to the Constitution. That’s a very interesting stance given his base.

Edit: not sure why that YouTube video isn’t pulling, but here’s an article about what he said today.

'You can’t have guns': Trump stuns with anti-2nd Amendment demand for protestors

President Donald Trump on Tuesday agreed with the criticism that no one should carry a gun to a protest. The president spoke to the press before heading to Des Moines, Iowa to discuss his economic agenda after his first year in office. A key topic was the recent shooting of Minneapolis ICU nurse...

www.alternet.org

Americans are no longer allowed to walk around with a gun, according to Trump.

I think the gun laws are governed by the states? Not the federal govt, and not the president.
At least, that is what I understand from the varying gun laws between the states.

imo

 

[sds71]

NEW: US Customs & Border Protection distributes its official "in-custody death notification" for Alex Pretti

Feds began providing medical aid at 902am

Minneapolis fire/EMS arrived to provide aid at 905am

Pretti was placed in ambulance at 914am

Pronounced dead at 932am

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016270591595315659

 

[Ruminations]

That comment was in regards to discussion about documenting
to which clearly that book was a very important historical document. I am not exploiting the holocaust. I myself have been keeping documentation of current events to be able to share with family later on. We are in historical times right now.

Wow. I can't see the text you are replying to with my current settings, but it appears you were accused of exploiting the holocaust?

No way! There is a world of difference between learning from the holocaust and exploiting it.

You are on the side of learning from it. The only way to protect ourselves from dangerous totalitarianism is to learn about it and refuse to let it happen.

Federal agents behavior is very similar to German police under Hitler.

MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

One of the things that unsettles me the most is how often people fall back on legality as if it settles the question. “Agents are just enforcing the law,” and “They shouldn’t have intervened.” Those phrases scare me.

Slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal. Japanese internment was legal. The Nuremberg Laws were legal. Law does not protect morality. It reflects power.

What history judges is not whether something was legal, but whether people were willing to treat other human beings as expendable because the system told them it was acceptable.

OHHHHHHH....Aint that the TRUTH... It has become the "go to" thats for sure.
Because nothing else works.
Legalize can just cover up ANYTHING... Greed, Theft, Taking over Countries, Massive Tarriffs when you don't get your way, Covering up Pedophyles, Rounding up Brown people (not criminal people)...

Slap a "But the law says", or "Federal Duty"... you know like the Insurrection Act against American citizens.

Moo all the way.
IMHO all the way.


But I still have to laugh---because it is just soooooooooooooooo obvious. ha ha.
But if i offend, I do apologize.

 

[SouthAussie]

Minneapolis latest: Trump says he'll do 'whatever is appropriate' in city after intense backlash

Donald Trump is speaking at a rally tonight as he tries to shift focus from his deadly immigration crackdown. A judge in Minnesota, where agents have killed two citizens in the past three weeks, has ordered the ICE chief to court over the administration's handling of detained immigrants.

news.sky.com

Trump repeats claim Alex Pretti should not have been carrying a gun​

Even though Trump came to Iowa to try and shift focus away from the fallout in Minneapolis, he's asked several times about it.

Facing questions on a stop off before the rally in Des Moines, the US president repeated his claim that Alex Pretti should not have carried a gun.

He added:


I'm sorry, what now? Alex was legally permitted to carry a handgun under Minnesota Law, so Trump saying he shouldn't have been carrying a gun but also insisting on Second Amendment rights is LUDICROUS. So everyone has the right to carry, but you shouldn't carry when law enforcement show up, how confusing and contradicting and an absolute grasp in trying to justify incompetence by the officers involved. jmo.

Just want to highlight this part from your link.

"Trump ..... But all of us-hey, look, bottom line, everybody in this room, we view that as a very unfortunate incident."

 

[tlcya]

just wanted to add the full quote [emphasis mine] of the recent comment by the POTUS regarding the death of Alex Pretti

"Certainly, he shouldn't have been carrying a gun. But all of us-hey, look, bottom line, everybody in this room, we view that as a very unfortunate incident. Everyone, unless you're a stupid person."
Minneapolis latest: Trump speaking at rally after promising to 'do whatever is appropriate' in Minneapolis

 

[nhmemorymaker]

My theory is many are unqualified, J6’ers, proud boys, 3 percenters, white supremacists, militia and failed military trigger happy goons

Wouldn't it really really be intersting just how their recruitment, interviewing and selecting happens?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Also, let’s not forget the McCloskey’s

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And Kyle Rittenhouse" and his AR-15 at a peaceful protest.... oh wait, he was brought to the White House.

 

[LAborn]

Wouldn't it really really be intersting just how their recruitment, interviewing and selecting happens?

 

[Ruminations]

I think the gun laws are governed by the states? Not the federal govt, and not the president.
At least, that is what I understand from the varying gun laws between the states.

imo

It's a general federal right to bear arms, but what exactly that means, what the permitting or licensing requirements are, and if specific guns or ammo or quantities of ammo may be purchased varies by state.

I am not a resident of MN, but my best inference from this case is that a visible handgun can be carried by an adult, but you need a permit to conceal carry. It's also possible that you need a permit for a handgun, and an extra endorsement on the permit to hide the gun on your body.

It seems more peaceful when people like Alex are hiding the gun, but a bad actor hiding a gun is definitely worse than a bad actor displaying a gun. At least it can be seen when they are reaching for it.

MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Noem stated it in her interview with Fox: https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/trump-officials-shifting-rhetoric-alex-pretti

That is legitimately the only source (Noem/DHS) I can find of these claims. The police chief in Minneapolis said he was carrying legally - also in the linked article.

I will point out two lies from Noem she said in the same interview as claiming he had no id:

• Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem claimed Pretti “attacked” officers, an assertion echoed by FBI Director Kash Patel, but no footage available as of Sunday afternoon shows Pretti committing any attack.
• Noem claimed Pretti was “brandishing” a gun, but no available footage shows Pretti even holding a weapon in his hand at the scene; a concealed gun appeared to be taken from his waistband area by a federal agent moments before he was shot.

Are you actually saying that Noem is the only source of "no ID" ????

 

[LAborn]