Mel Gibson

[JBean]

and they would have strip searched us too TG, something that I heard that they do to all drunken driving offenders. Did they strip search Mel?? Of course not. This double standard has to stop. LOL

well KFI reported they also released him without making him post bond.They cited and released him on his OR. None of us would be able to do that.
Hey I was wondering if he could have been cited for speeding because that would be a traffic violation and not a criminal complaint. Then we wouldn't necessarily know about it.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Let's just face facts. If any of you (or me) would have started saying that stuff about a Jewish police officer while we were drunk to high Heaven with an open bottle of tequilla in our car, we would have been TAKEN DOWN to the ground by force and cuffed, taken to the police department, given a breathylzer (and if you refuse that) a blood test by force, our car would have been impounded, and we would most likely have to pay bond, appear in court, pay heavy fines and loose our license. NONE of that has or will EVER happen to Mel Gibson or anyone in Hollywood of his caliber. Why? Because people treat them like they're some sort of Gods. Back in the day of Shakespere, people used to treat actors worse than prostitutes. I think that should be the way it still is. People need to stop wetting themsevles and thinking they're inferior to these people and maybe they'll remember that they're just humans like the rest of us. :twocents:

 

[Buzz Mills]

well KFI reported they also released him without making him post bond.They cited and released him on his OR. None of us would be able to do that.
Hey I was wondering if he could have been cited for speeding because that would be a traffic violation and not a criminal complaint. Then we wouldn't necessarily know about it.

JBean, call up KFI and ask them to find out about the speeding ticket, or just why Mel wasn't issued one. There's still a lot of unanswered questions that we WSers demand answers to. LOL

 

[jilly]

I just seen some video clips off Mel that night. I think it was him at the bar because it looks like he has a bottle in his hand.

I saw a bit of that too - I think they said some guy in the bar that nite took it with his cell phone.

 

[jilly]

Hey I was wondering if he could have been cited for speeding because that would be a traffic violation and not a criminal complaint. Then we wouldn't necessarily know about it.

That's a very good point.

 

[Buzz Mills]

Let's just face facts. If any of you (or me) would have started saying that stuff about a Jewish police officer while we were drunk to high Heaven with an open bottle of tequilla in our car, we would have been TAKEN DOWN to the ground by force and cuffed, taken to the police department, given a breathylzer (and if you refuse that) a blood test by force, our car would have been impounded, and we would most likely have to pay bond, appear in court, pay heavy fines and loose our license. NONE of that has or will EVER happen to Mel Gibson or anyone in Hollywood of his caliber. Why? Because people treat them like they're some sort of Gods. Back in the day of Shakespere, people used to treat actors worse than prostitutes. I think that should be the way it still is. People need to stop wetting themsevles and thinking they're inferior to these people and maybe they'll remember that they're just humans like the rest of us. :twocents:

I wonder if they gave Mel a private room at the jail, or threw him into the drunk tank with all the rest of the human waste, like they would have done with us?? A private room, of course.

 

[JBean]

Let's just face facts. If any of you (or me) would have started saying that stuff about a Jewish police officer while we were drunk to high Heaven with an open bottle of tequilla in our car, we would have been TAKEN DOWN to the ground by force and cuffed, taken to the police department, given a breathylzer (and if you refuse that) a blood test by force, our car would have been impounded, and we would most likely have to pay bond, appear in court, pay heavy fines and loose our license. NONE of that has or will EVER happen to Mel Gibson or anyone in Hollywood of his caliber. Why? Because people treat them like they're some sort of Gods. Back in the day of Shakespere, people used to treat actors worse than prostitutes. I think that should be the way it still is. People need to stop wetting themsevles and thinking they're inferior to these people and maybe they'll remember that they're just humans like the rest of us. :twocents:

While the first part may be true, some of the other things did happen and some of that will happen. CA is hard on DUI,if convicted he will lose his license, pay fines, and possible jail time . None of us would be required to appear in court if we have lawyer.

 

[JBean]

The only real special treatment I saw that he got was being able to leave without posting bond. That's a biggy.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

While the first part may be true, some of the other things did happen and some of that will happen. CA is hard on DUI,if convicted he will lose his license, pay fines, and possible jail time . None of us would be required to appear in court if we have lawyer.

You may be right. Here's what I was able to find:

On your first conviction, you will be fined, with penalties and assesments, well over $1000 in fines and costs, and you may be required to serve 48 hours to 6 months in jail with 3 to 5 years probation. Attendance in a drug/alcohol treatment program will be required within six months of the conviction. Almost all DUI convictions will result in a mandatory minimum jail sentence. A judge can order an ignition interlocking device, which requires you to test for the presence of alcohol before the ignition will work, placed on your vehicle.

During my research, I read that the defendant MUST be in court or a bench warrant will be issued, but since Mels' mere presence in court would be a media field day, they may "allow" him to skp it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[JBean]

You may be right. Here's what I was able to find:

On your first conviction, you will be fined, with penalties and assesments, well over $1000 in fines and costs, and you may be required to serve 48 hours to 6 months in jail with 3 to 5 years probation. Attendance in a drug/alcohol treatment program will be required within six months of the conviction. Almost all DUI convictions will result in a mandatory minimum jail sentence. A judge can order an ignition interlocking device, which requires you to test for the presence of alcohol before the ignition will work, placed on your vehicle.

During my research, I read that the defendant MUST be in court or a bench warrant will be issued, but since Mels' mere presence in court would be a media field day, they may "allow" him to skp it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I posted a link a few posts back that show the progession of basic penalties as you get more convictions. Plus it was only based on a DUI alone, not the BAC charge or the infraction.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I posted a link a few posts back that show the progession of basic penalties as you get more convictions. Plus it was only based on a DUI alone, not the BAC charge or the infraction.

I saw it, but it is his first offense, so the other stuff doesn't apply. They'll throw out the lesser charges here.

 

[JBean]

I saw it, but it is his first offense, so the other stuff doesn't apply. They'll throw out the lesser charges here.

Don't know what you mean? The link was for basic DUI first offense. NO matter it has probably changed recently anyway!

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Don't know what you mean? The link was for basic DUI first offense. NO matter it has probably changed recently anyway!

"that show the progession of basic penalties as you get more convictions"


This is the part I was talking about! If Mel gets a second or third DUI, I think he'll need to move to another country! I can't imagine which religeon he'd start talking about next! LOL

 

[Marthatex]

They were talking about Mel on the View today. They quoted some statements of his from the past toward gays and other folks.

Perhaps Mel ran for his car because he had gotten away with it in the past; he was mad because they were finally taking him in.

I don't think they did him any favor if they've let him get by multiple times in the past.

I would hate to see Mel with a gun. I know there have been police here who've shot and killed young boys who were belligerant and resisted arrest.

 

[jilly]

Gibson scheduled for Arraignment Sept. 28/06

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2006/0803/gibsonm.html

 

[Peter Hamilton]

Martha,I saw the VIEW too--Mel Gibson threatened to kill Frank Rich's dog after Rich criticized his movie for being anti-semitic--I think he also threatened Rich---Something is really wrong with this guy,maybe he needs to see a shrink

 

[BrendaStar]

Something is really wrong with this guy,maybe he needs to see a shrink

Certainly sounds like mad Mel has anger management issues along with all of his other issues.

 

[JBean]

"that show the progession of basic penalties as you get more convictions"


This is the part I was talking about! If Mel gets a second or third DUI, I think he'll need to move to another country! I can't imagine which religeon he'd start talking about next! LOL

true dat.. I thought this was interstnig:
The Sliding Scales of Justice: What Punishment Should Gibson Receive?

That said, let us not lose sight of the other elephant in the room. DUI - while a misdemeanor in California, unless it happens repeatedly -- is one of the most dangerous behaviors on the books. If his ability was indeed impaired, Gibson could have killed himself, or any number of other people sharing the road that night. A moving vehicle can be even more deadly than a loaded gun.

That's why we try to punish DUI harshly. Which leads to an interesting question: Should Gibson's DUI be punished especially harshly because he's a public figure? I think the answer is, arguably, yes.

Whenever a celebrity gets arrested for DUI, the judges, prosecutors and even defense attorneys have a chance to do something unusual: Change public perceptions, as well as punish the offender.

A typical sentence for a first time DUI offender in California consists of a fine (usually around $1,300 bucks), participation in an alcohol program (like Alcoholics Anonymous), suspension of one's driving privileges, and 48 hours in county jail. In most jurisdictions, including California, the defendant never need actually show his face in court.

The super-wealthy Gibson won't even sneeze at shelling out $1,300 (or lawyers' fees). He's already enrolled in alcohol rehab on his own, and he can hire a chauffeur. As for the 48 hours in jail, this really boils down to a couple of hours on a Saturday, followed by a night in your own bed, and another couple of hours the next day. Big deal.
As part of Gibson's plea agreement - and I assume he will plead guilty, as his public statements seem to concede the offense -- he could agree to make a donation to a drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility, or to a program educating kids never to get behind the wheel drunk. Or better yet, he could agree to spend time talking to kids about his own terrible experience, and despicable behavior.

Just as Gibson is capable of capturing the attention of a worldwide audience with his movies, he is also capable of giving back in profound ways. A smart judge will make sure that Gibson's sentence both affects him, and affects others, too.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20060803_spilbor.html

 

[Jeana (DP)]

tue dat.. I thought this was interstnig:
The Sliding Scales of Justice: What Punishment Should Gibson Receive?

That said, let us not lose sight of the other elephant in the room. DUI - while a misdemeanor in California, unless it happens repeatedly -- is one of the most dangerous behaviors on the books. If his ability was indeed impaired, Gibson could have killed himself, or any number of other people sharing the road that night. A moving vehicle can be even more deadly than a loaded gun.

That's why we try to punish DUI harshly. Which leads to an interesting question: Should Gibson's DUI be punished especially harshly because he's a public figure? I think the answer is, arguably, yes.

Interesting Jelly!! Thanks for posting it. I must disagree with the author though. I think if we treat them ANY differently, lighter sentence or harsher sentence, it sends a message that they're somehow different. These are air breathing, red blood bleeding humans just like the rest of us. I can see people after their money treating them differently, but not the law.

 

[Marthatex]

Martha,I saw the VIEW too--Mel Gibson threatened to kill Frank Rich's dog after Rich criticized his movie for being anti-semitic--I think he also threatened Rich---Something is really wrong with this guy,maybe he needs to see a shrink

Yeah, he's got "demons", that's for sure.