Mexico Mexico - Jenny Chen, 26, Oaxaca, 11 April 2016 #3

[Lilibet]

Very sad for Jenny as well. I really hope that this does not come across as offensive, and yes, JR is a victim, but ultimately, this is about Jenny, not JR.

I usually don't bring this kind of stuff up because everyone and every relationship is different, IMO, but I have always found the fact that the profile photo of JR's personal FB page is one of him with another woman off-putting. I see that it was posted a few months before Jenny left for Mexico, so it's entirely possible that Jenny was perfectly fine with it. Also, I have no idea who the woman in the photo is; for all I know she may be a family member. And it would not bother me a bit -again, everyone and every relationship is different- if it weren't for the fact that his wife is missing and he is asking for others' help in finding her. By itself the photo means nothing, but yet it's one more thing that does not help his cause under the circumstances .

Not offensive to me. I've been waiting for that photo to change ever since Jenny went missing! The woman is a very old friend, predating Jenny by many years. But keeping it on FB is still tone deaf regardless of the nature of JR and Jenny's relationship IMO. Your wife is missing and, even if you are estranged or have a marriage of convenience, the appropriate FB photo would not be of you and another woman. Just no.

Jenny was either fine with the ski trip, neutral, or fed up. I'm picking fed up, since a few months later she went off to Mexico without leaving JR an easy way to contact her. Combine that with the fact that he left Cancun without staying and trying to trace her travels from Oaxaca tells me that he figured she stood him up. I just can't imagine leaving Mexico so quickly with your wife missing. At least he stepped up when he got home, but it's always bugged me. JR tends to bug people and that takes the focus off Jenny.

JMO

 

[Lilibet]

You are right, we have no idea what their marital agreement or arrangement was. Not everyone has a traditional marriage, some are "custom crafted", or have more of a business purpose. Nothing new about that, and we have no idea what was going on with this couple.

I was just trying to have some fresh thinking on this case, and I just realized that the whole "Mexico thing" is distracting us. As I posted upthread, and Kaboom calculated, there are actually *less* missing persons per capita in Mexico, than in the U.S.

So, let's think about this case as if Jenny were missing in the U.S, and it really does help illustrate a few things. (All my own opinions and speculation of course):

-Significantly younger chinese bride marries older middle age tech worker, comes to U.S.
-"Spirited" young bride decides to "overcome fears" by backpacking through the country, sleeping at strangers homes at at gas stations
-At one point stops communicating routinely with husband
-Posts pictures in front of porn peddlers and with man whose house she stayed at as a paying guest
-Hitchhiking rides from strangers
-Vanishes, last seen getting in a truck for a ride

When I think about this behavior happening in the U.S. it helps put things in perspective, vs. "oh my god....Mexico!"
It is my OPINION and SPECULATION that this young woman (at minimum), was suffering from extremely poor and fanciful judgement. Most likely something more that required medical intervention. (Opinion only). If Jenny was in a mania cycle, it would typically last 13 weeks, or up to a year. https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/04/11/how-long-is-a-typical-bipolar-episode/
Again, this is all just amateur, armchair speculation and opinion.
Her risk taking behavior does suggest some sort of medical episode, in my opinion.

So all this being said? Here is what I truly think, in my order of probability
1. Deceased - 40% probability
2. Back in China - 30% probability
3 Being held in brothel, or against will in Mexico - 20%
4. Hiding/working in Mexico, or living with someone there - 10%

All speculation and opinion only

BBM

Leaving Mexico out of the equation really helps put it in perspective. I've always agreed with you about the possibility of mental health issues, whether bipolar or something else. We know from her own writing that she planned to see her psychiatrist (I forget when), so something was going on IMO. She was also fascinated by a friend who was bipolar.

My sad guess is that Jenny is deceased.

Side note: if someone with bipolar disorder is treated with an antidepressant in the depressed phase it can put them in a manic phase.

(This link is to an excellent website on the bipolar "spectrum." Lots of info and research.)
http://psycheducation.org/antidepressants-in-bipolar-disorder-the-controversies/

 

[KaaBoom]

Very sad for Jenny as well. I really hope that this does not come across as offensive, and yes, JR is a victim, but ultimately, this is about Jenny, not JR.

I usually don't bring this kind of stuff up because everyone and every relationship is different, IMO, but I have always found the fact that the profile photo of JR's personal FB page is one of him with another woman off-putting. I see that it was posted a few months before Jenny left for Mexico, so it's entirely possible that Jenny was perfectly fine with it. Also, I have no idea who the woman in the photo is; for all I know she may be a family member. And it would not bother me a bit -again, everyone and every relationship is different- if it weren't for the fact that his wife is missing and he is asking for others' help in finding her. By itself the photo means nothing, but yet it's one more thing that does not help his cause under the circumstances .

On that subject, has anyone seen any photos of JR and Jenny together in the same photo, other then that Chinese wedding photo set?

 

[KaaBoom]

You are right, we have no idea what their marital agreement or arrangement was. Not everyone has a traditional marriage, some are "custom crafted", or have more of a business purpose. Nothing new about that, and we have no idea what was going on with this couple.

I was just trying to have some fresh thinking on this case, and I just realized that the whole "Mexico thing" is distracting us. As I posted upthread, and Kaboom calculated, there are actually *less* missing persons per capita in Mexico, than in the U.S.

So, let's think about this case as if Jenny were missing in the U.S, and it really does help illustrate a few things. (All my own opinions and speculation of course):

-Significantly younger chinese bride marries older middle age tech worker, comes to U.S.
-"Spirited" young bride decides to "overcome fears" by backpacking through the country, sleeping at strangers homes at at gas stations
-At one point stops communicating routinely with husband
-Posts pictures in front of porn peddlers and with man whose house she stayed at as a paying guest
-Hitchhiking rides from strangers
-Vanishes, last seen getting in a truck for a ride

When I think about this behavior happening in the U.S. it helps put things in perspective, vs. "oh my god....Mexico!"
It is my OPINION and SPECULATION that this young woman (at minimum), was suffering from extremely poor and fanciful judgement. Most likely something more that required medical intervention. (Opinion only). If Jenny was in a mania cycle, it would typically last 13 weeks, or up to a year. https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/04/11/how-long-is-a-typical-bipolar-episode/
Again, this is all just amateur, armchair speculation and opinion.
Her risk taking behavior does suggest some sort of medical episode, in my opinion.

So all this being said? Here is what I truly think, in my order of probability
1. Deceased - 40% probability
2. Back in China - 30% probability
3 Being held in brothel, or against will in Mexico - 20%
4. Hiding/working in Mexico, or living with someone there - 10%

All speculation and opinion only

I don't think even JR believes #3 is a possibility. Since he has publically called "his" suspect a murderer. But I also don't think there is more than a 40% chance, she is deceased. So I would put the odds more like this:


1. Deceased - 40% probability
2. Back in China - 40% probability
3. Being held in brothel, or against will in Mexico - Possible but improbable.
4. Hiding/working in Mexico, or living with someone there - 20%

Or even this:

1. Deceased - 40% probability
2. Back in China - 50% probability
3. Being held in brothel, or against will in Mexico - Possible but improbable.
4. Hiding/working in Mexico, or living with someone there - 10%

Or somewhere in between.

1. Deceased - 40% probability
2. Back in China - 45% probability
3. Being held in brothel, or against will in Mexico - Possible but improbable.
4. Hiding/working in Mexico, or living with someone there - 15%

 

[Lilibet]

On that subject, has anyone seen any photos of JR and Jenny together in the same photo, other then that Chinese wedding photo set?

Yes, there's a nice selection to choose from on his personal FB page for a profile picture. Happier times.

 

[Normancita]

Ok, so after much deliberation after reading the facts of this case, I've come to the conclusion that Jenny has walked away from this marriage by choice. The trip to Mexico was the perfect opportunity to get "free."

Of course this is only my opinion, but I think life in the US with an older, middle-aged man wasn't as great as she thought it would be.

I think it's highly likely she's back in China and has moved on.


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[KaaBoom]

Ok, so after much deliberation after reading the facts of this case, I've come to the conclusion that Jenny has walked away from this marriage by choice. The trip to Mexico was the perfect opportunity to get "free."

Of course this is only my opinion, but I think life in the US with an older, middle-aged man wasn't as great as she thought it would be.

I think it's highly likely she's back in China and has moved on.

I agree. The fact that she was happily hitchhiking all over Mexico and then suddenly disappeared the day before she was to meet up with JR is too big of a coincidence. The odds of her disappearing on that one day as opposed to any other day, would be close to 1 in a 100. If something really did happen to her, then that timing must be investigated.

 

[Lilibet]

I agree. The fact that she was happily hitchhiking all over Mexico and then suddenly disappeared the day before she was to meet up with JR is too big of a coincidence. The odds of her disappearing on that one day as opposed to any other day, would be close to 1 in a 100. If something really did happen to her, then that timing must be investigated.

I don't necessarily disagree with you that Jenny stood JR up (since it seems to me that JR thought she did). And it does seem a bit too coincidental to disappear en route to meet JR on 4/15 (not the next day, but several days later).

But the nagging question is: how do we reconcile the possibility Jenny took off and stood up JR with what she said on wiebo about conquering her fears by hitchhiking across most of Mexico to get to Cancun, rather than take a bus? (I need to look up the exact quote and link, but that was the gist. ETA--quote added at end of post). And she was attempting to hitchhike in that direction when she disappeared (although the truck supposedly took her in the opposite direction to avoid the teachers' strike). Were the weibo post and her Chinese signature in the notebook near the Pemex red herrings? Or did she get that far and make a sudden decision to abort the trip to Cancun (and the ride that had been arranged for her) and cease contact with her family and stop using her ATM on the day she disappeared (it's happened before with others)? How does the Corona truck driver factor in...or does he? Why has she not been seen, other than the LE/Chinese Embassy story that she was still hitchhiking in May? Not insurmountable questions, but they complicate the "went off on her own" theory IMO.

For me, Occam's Razor indicates that Jenny didn't make a decision to stand up JR in Cancun. It was made for her. She may have already decided not to return to their marriage, but planned to tell him Cancun. I don't know. But to believe she didn't intend to keep her appointment in Cancun makes me twist my mind into a pretzel. I'm open to other evidence/explanations though, because I'd really like her to be alive having a wonderful time, or even stuck in a brothel, rather than dead.

ETA: Weibo post about hitchhiking to Cancun, posted a day after she posts she was almost raped and the same day and time she also said "I know it only takes one bad person to ruin my life. But I can't be negative if I choose to hitchhiking."

jennycqd

2016-04-05 20:50 来自 iPhone

To me, the most important thing about traveling is learning to face fear. That's way more important than sightseeing or visit museum or knowing other's culture. So I decide to hitch hiking from Oaxaca to Cancun which is half Mexico distance. ​​​

http://m.weibo.cn/p/index?container...11&lfid=2302831723208662&featurecode=20000180

 

[webant]

I don't necessarily disagree with you that Jenny stood JR up (since it seems to me that JR thought she did). And it does seem a bit too coincidental to disappear en route to meet JR on 4/15 (not the next day, but several days later).

But the nagging question is: how do we reconcile the possibility Jenny took off and stood up JR with what she said on wiebo about conquering her fears by hitchhiking across most of Mexico to get to Cancun, rather than take a bus? (I need to look up the exact quote and link, but that was the gist. ETA--quote added at end of post). And she was attempting to hitchhike in that direction when she disappeared (although the truck supposedly took her in the opposite direction to avoid the teachers' strike). Were the weibo post and her Chinese signature in the notebook near the Pemex red herrings? Or did she get that far and make a sudden decision to abort the trip to Cancun (and the ride that had been arranged for her) and cease contact with her family and stop using her ATM on the day she disappeared (it's happened before with others)? How does the Corona truck driver factor in...or does he? Why has she not been seen, other than the LE/Chinese Embassy story that she was still hitchhiking in May? Not insurmountable questions, but they complicate the "went off on her own" theory IMO.

For me, Occam's Razor indicates that Jenny didn't make a decision to stand up JR in Cancun. It was made for her. She may have already decided not to return to their marriage, but planned to tell him Cancun. I don't know. But to believe she didn't intend to keep her appointment in Cancun makes me twist my mind into a pretzel. I'm open to other evidence/explanations though, because I'd really like her to be alive having a wonderful time, or even stuck in a brothel, rather than dead.

ETA: Weibo post about hitchhiking to Cancun, posted a day after she posts she was almost raped and the same day and time she also said "I know it only takes one bad person to ruin my life. But I can't be negative if I choose to hitchhiking."

jennycqd

2016-04-05 20:50 来自 iPhone

To me, the most important thing about traveling is learning to face fear. That's way more important than sightseeing or visit museum or knowing other's culture. So I decide to hitch hiking from Oaxaca to Cancun which is half Mexico distance. ​​​

http://m.weibo.cn/p/index?container...11&lfid=2302831723208662&featurecode=20000180

This is still what I believe as well.

Jenny's Chinese family lost all contact with her, and this loss of contact remained in place for a month and a half, so that at the end of May the family traveled to Mexico to search for her. This, when previously Jenny had stayed in contact with her Chinese family regularly, at least once a week. Jenny had told her last known contacts in Mexico that she was headed to Cancun to meet her husband. Jenny would have advised her Chinese family of other plans, if she had them, and if this was the case we would have not seen her Chinese family make the trip to Mexico to search for her.

 

[KaaBoom]

I don't necessarily disagree with you that Jenny stood JR up (since it seems to me that JR thought she did). And it does seem a bit too coincidental to disappear en route to meet JR on 4/15 (not the next day, but several days later).

But the nagging question is: how do we reconcile the possibility Jenny took off and stood up JR with what she said on wiebo about conquering her fears by hitchhiking across most of Mexico to get to Cancun, rather than take a bus? (I need to look up the exact quote and link, but that was the gist. ETA--quote added at end of post). And she was attempting to hitchhike in that direction when she disappeared (although the truck supposedly took her in the opposite direction to avoid the teachers' strike). Were the weibo post and her Chinese signature in the notebook near the Pemex red herrings? Or did she get that far and make a sudden decision to abort the trip to Cancun (and the ride that had been arranged for her) and cease contact with her family and stop using her ATM on the day she disappeared (it's happened before with others)? How does the Corona truck driver factor in...or does he? Why has she not been seen, other than the LE/Chinese Embassy story that she was still hitchhiking in May? Not insurmountable questions, but they complicate the "went off on her own" theory IMO.

For me, Occam's Razor indicates that Jenny didn't make a decision to stand up JR in Cancun. It was made for her. She may have already decided not to return to their marriage, but planned to tell him Cancun. I don't know. But to believe she didn't intend to keep her appointment in Cancun makes me twist my mind into a pretzel. I'm open to other evidence/explanations though, because I'd really like her to be alive having a wonderful time, or even stuck in a brothel, rather than dead.

ETA: Weibo post about hitchhiking to Cancun, posted a day after she posts she was almost raped and the same day and time she also said "I know it only takes one bad person to ruin my life. But I can't be negative if I choose to hitchhiking."

jennycqd

2016-04-05 20:50 来自 iPhone

To me, the most important thing about traveling is learning to face fear. That's way more important than sightseeing or visit museum or knowing other's culture. So I decide to hitch hiking from Oaxaca to Cancun which is half Mexico distance. ​​​

http://m.weibo.cn/p/index?container...11&lfid=2302831723208662&featurecode=20000180

So she survived those harrowing experiences and almost being raped, but then suddenly disappeared into thin air on her way to meet JR. That would be like surviving a horrific plane crash, only to die when the ambulance crashes on the way to the hospital.

I have learned not to believe every word people post on the internet. Maybe she posted that as a prelude to her planned disappearance, or to throw JR off so he wouldn't come looking for her.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Has JR ever stated definitively that there is no record of Jenny entering the U.S. or any other country -e.g., her NAMUS profile states, "She was in the middle of a solo trip that started from San Diego into Mexico, heading to Cancun before a trip to Cuba"- for that matter, or returning to China,
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/34598/2/

I have assumed all along one of the first things JR did when Jenny turned up missing was to look into her entrance/exit records. I assume that this type of task would generally be handled with the detective in charge -in Jenny's case, Detective Tanya Kinney of Seattle Police Department- as the contact person with the US Department of State, which in turn would at least have her green card -whether conditional or not- flagged. I assume that Jenny's family has requested that the Chinese passport-issuing authority do the same with her passport.

Do we know for certain that all of the above have been done? I really would like to see a MSM reporter put together an article on Jenny's case and include in it information from sources such as Det. Kinney and Jenny's family.

ETA: My fear is that JR decided not to follow up with the U.S. or Chinese authorities with regard to Jenny's entrance/exit history after his initial, apparently unpleasant experience with them. I also wonder how much communication exists between him and the detective in charge. And if Jenny decided to leave her life in the U.S. behind, -as cruel as it may be- she or her family might not bother to let JR know of her decision even if she were safe and sound, back in China with her family or elsewhere.

 

[Lilibet]

So she survived those harrowing experiences and almost being raped, but then suddenly disappeared into thin air on her way to meet JR. That would be like surviving a horrific plane crash, only to die when the ambulance crashes on the way to the hospital.

I have learned not to believe every word people post on the internet. Maybe she posted that as a prelude to her planned disappearance, or to throw JR off so he wouldn't come looking for her.

Anything is possible, of course. But I think when someone is a risk-taker like Jenny the chances of two bad events in a few days increase. She had control over where she went and with whom. If she rode solo with a truck driver two days after the rape attempt, her chances of harmful consequences are very high. That's different from a plane crash and ambulance accident happening back to back, which would certainly be out of someone's control and highly unusual.

By wondering if Jenny's Cancun post was meant to be misleading you just added a twist to my brain pretzel. At this point I'm going to believe what she wrote, unless I have more reason not to. But I will hold your thought in reserve just in case.

 

[webant]

Has JR ever stated definitively that there is no record of Jenny entering the U.S. or any other country -e.g., her NAMUS profile states, "She was in the middle of a solo trip that started from San Diego into Mexico, heading to Cancun before a trip to Cuba"- for that matter, or returning to China,
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/34598/2/

I have assumed all along one of the first things JR did when Jenny turned up missing was to look into her entrance/exit records. I assume that this type of task would generally be handled with the detective in charge -in Jenny's case, Detective Tanya Kinney of Seattle Police Department- as the contact person with the US Department of State, which in turn would at least have her green card -whether conditional or not- flagged. I assume that Jenny's family has requested that the Chinese passport-issuing authority do the same with her passport.

Do we know for certain that all of the above have been done? I really would like to see a MSM reporter put together an article on Jenny's case and include in it information from sources such as Det. Kinney and Jenny's family.

ETA: My fear is that JR decided not to follow up with the U.S. or Chinese authorities with regard to Jenny's entrance/exit history after his initial, apparently unpleasant experience with them. I also wonder how much communication exists between him and the detective in charge. And if Jenny decided to leave her life in the U.S. behind, -as cruel as it may be- she or her family might not bother to let JR know of her decision even if she were safe and sound, back in China with her family or elsewhere.

And JR's Mexican PI would surely have been monitoring Mexican Immigration for an exit of the country by Jenny, wouldn't he? I know that when you cross the land border at Tijuana into the US, there is no Mexican Immigration to go through, but there is US Immigration there for the entrance to the US. With all other Mexican land borders I have ever used (Guatemala, Belize) Mexican Immigration processes you out and the other country processes you in. Same with all flights. Even with domestic flights you must show ID and there is a record of that.

 

[Lilibet]

Has JR ever stated definitively that there is no record of Jenny entering the U.S. or any other country -e.g., her NAMUS profile states, "She was in the middle of a solo trip this at started from San Diego into Mexico, heading to Cancun before a trip to Cuba"- for that matter, or returning to China,
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/34598/2/

I have assumed all along one of the first things JR did when Jenny turned up missing was to look into her entrance/exit records. I assume that this type of task would generally be handled with the detective in charge -in Jenny's case, Detective Tanya Kinney of Seattle Police Department- as the contact person with the US Department of State, which in turn would at least have her green card -whether conditional or not- flagged. I assume that Jenny's family has requested that the Chinese passport-issuing authority do the same with her passport.

Do we know for certain that all of the above have been done? I really would like to see a MSM reporter put together an article on Jenny's case and include in it information from sources such as Det. Kinney and Jenny's family.

ETA: My fear is that JR decided not to follow up with the U.S. or Chinese authorities with regard to Jenny's entrance/exit history after his initial, apparently unpleasant experience with them. I also wonder how much communication exists between him and the detective in charge. And if Jenny decided to leave her life in the U.S. behind, -as cruel as it may be- she or her family might not bother to let JR know of her decision even if she were safe and sound, back in China with her family or elsewhere.

BBM

All I remember is that JR said there is no record of Jenny getting on her flight to Cuba (and I think someone then asked whether she could have taken a boat). I don't recall whether her passport entrance/exit records were specifically mentioned. As webant points out, one would think the PI would monitor her passport history and that it's been flagged. But what seems like a no-brainer thing for LE/PI to do is no guarantee it is done. I'm continually amazed by the dropped balls I experience with health care providers and their offices. One would expect them to be detail-oriented. So I never assume anyone knows or does anything expected!

Regarding the Seattle Police Detective, JR had a long and rather contentious (on his part) FB argument with a member who encouraged him to report Jenny missing in Seattle. He was extremely resistant to the suggestion (thought there was no point) and other members ganged up on the OP for "adding to JR's stress." She backed off apologetically, but within a day or two JR said he had called Seattle PD and they were helpful. All of this has long been deleted, but I read it in real time and was appalled. It was one of my first inklings that JR's anger toward authority gets in the way of reason (of course his multitude of Seattle traffic violations may have added to his reluctance to ask SPD for help!). The post linked below was in between the argument and JR's post about calling SPD. I don't believe he called SPD until at least 4/28-29, after this post on 4/27. It's hard for me to imagine that JR keeps in touch much with the detective.

There is an interesting comment about Jenny by QC in this link. His use of a mental health adjective (edited into his original comment) makes me wonder...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/helpfindjenny/permalink/606741966167518/

I would LOVE to see an independently researched article by an MSM reporter!

 

[Lilibet]

BBM

All I remember is that JR said there is no record of Jenny getting on her flight to Cuba (and I think someone then asked whether she could have taken a boat). I don't recall whether her passport entrance/exit records were specifically mentioned. As webant points out, one would think the PI would monitor her passport history and that it's been flagged. But what seems like a no-brainer thing for LE/PI to do is no guarantee it is done. I'm continually amazed by the dropped balls I experience with health care providers and their offices. One would expect them to be detail-oriented. So I never assume anyone knows or does anything expected!

Regarding the Seattle Police Detective, JR had a long and rather contentious (on his part) FB argument with a member who encouraged him to report Jenny missing in Seattle. He was extremely resistant to the suggestion (thought there was no point) and other members ganged up on the OP for "adding to JR's stress." She backed off apologetically, but within a day or two JR said he had called Seattle PD and they were helpful. All of this has long been deleted, but I read it in real time and was appalled. It was one of my first inklings that JR's anger toward authority gets in the way of reason (of course his multitude of Seattle traffic violations may have added to his reluctance to ask SPD for help!). The post linked below was in between the argument and JR's post about calling SPD. I don't believe he called SPD until at least 4/28-29, after this post on 4/27. It's hard for me to imagine that JR keeps in touch much with the detective.

There is an interesting comment about Jenny by QC in this link. His use of a mental health adjective (edited into his original comment) makes me wonder...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/helpfindjenny/permalink/606741966167518/

I would LOVE to see an independently researched article by an MSM reporter!

Quoting myself to correct what I said above about the unpleasant conversation JR had with member SR about contacting Seattle PD. It wasn't deleted, just out of order and hidden waaaay down a string of comments on this linked post. My bad, not JR's. He did call SPD on 4/27 and LE was going to interview him on 4/28. Because he was originally so resistant, SR gathered up info and sent it to SPD herself! I just wanted to correct my error so JR isn't blamed for a deletion he didn't do. I'm still shaking my head at the unnecessary drama, but oh well...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/helpfindjenny/permalink/606706679504380/

 

[rosesfromangels]

Given the odd circumstances, if I were JR, I would enlist the assistance of friends in the area where he met Jenny. I would have them enlist/hire a reputable local P.I., and see if she could be tracked down. It's not that far fetched, and could bring him closure.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Not offensive to me. I've been waiting for that photo to change ever since Jenny went missing! The woman is a very old friend, predating Jenny by many years. But keeping it on FB is still tone deaf regardless of the nature of JR and Jenny's relationship IMO. Your wife is missing and, even if you are estranged or have a marriage of convenience, the appropriate FB photo would not be of you and another woman. Just no.

Jenny was either fine with the ski trip, neutral, or fed up. I'm picking fed up, since a few months later she went off to Mexico without leaving JR an easy way to contact her. Combine that with the fact that he left Cancun without staying and trying to trace her travels from Oaxaca tells me that he figured she stood him up. I just can't imagine leaving Mexico so quickly with your wife missing. At least he stepped up when he got home, but it's always bugged me. JR tends to bug people and that takes the focus off Jenny.

JMO

Yep yep and yep. I salute.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I agree. The fact that she was happily hitchhiking all over Mexico and then suddenly disappeared the day before she was to meet up with JR is too big of a coincidence. The odds of her disappearing on that one day as opposed to any other day, would be close to 1 in a 100. If something really did happen to her, then that timing must be investigated.

Agree. Jenny is very calculated. She even advised on ways to become a citizen on a temporary pass. So maybe Jenny was posting that face my fears because it was a way out upon running away.

So she knew people would think kidnapped in Mexico.

Btw. We seen that Jenny had possibly set up a Chinese social media on 4/29.

But then she didn't post to it. Now I wonder if she decided not to post on there since everyone knew her username on all social media accounts were Jennycqd.

So once again. Jenny may be alive and well. She possibly met up with her family in Mexico as well before they left. Or she possibly stays in contact with them anonymously on Chinese social media.

Idk.

 

[Lilibet]

Given the odd circumstances, if I were JR, I would enlist the assistance of friends in the area where he met Jenny. I would have them enlist/hire a reputable local P.I., and see if she could be tracked down. It's not that far fetched, and could bring him closure.

Do you mean see if she can be tracked down in China? Interesting idea. But JR never does what WE would do!

 

[rosesfromangels]

Yes, hire a PI to find her in China.
Good chance she is there
I think there is a good chance JR has been duped