MI MI - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #3

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  • #521
Clearing someone as a suspect based on a polygraph is ********! Anyone who knows anything knows this!
Tricia knows this as well! Do I have to share screenshots where Tricia confirms this?
This IS NOT new information! It’s an attempt to cover for the parents! Nothing else! You can but this crap if you want... I do not!
I think they must have more than a polygraph in order to clear a person. After all LE did say you couldn't be considered guilty because of a failed test.
LE may only be telling us part of what they have as far as evidence. IMO
 
  • #522
So your goal today is to try and destroy the relationship between the Bruegers and Vera.
How does that help Ally?
As a previous poster posted it is possible to change your mind regarding guilt as more information becomes available.
Agree. Some journalist are opened to see if you may be onto an explosive theory. So they may try to see if certain pcs fit before ultimately deciding to not go that route. It happens all the time during the story vetting process.

She tried her best to see it your way at first. That should count for something. Because her nor the parents killed Ally. So we must move on.
 
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Since it’s became obvious that mods aren’t enforcing ANY rules anymore I’ll just say this.
FRANZ AND NIKKI HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!
The last 3 guys Ally dated believe this without ANY doubt. Including a mother of one of these exboyfriends!
The community should be very concerned because there ARE murderers living among them.
** note: I have nothing more to add to this thread. Year after year, as this goes case goes cold and unsolved... its now on all of you. You all get to live with what happened here.
Goodbye and take care!**
Im surprised ya even knew each other. 4 boyfriends from different areas in the same room introducing themselves as the ex.

I would have probably suspected everyone. Especially if mamma feels the need to jump in. Jmo.

But atleast you have people in your corner that you can message. Good job.
 
  • #526
@Combatmedic2121 why didn't you contribute to the Tributes to Ally article that was recently published?
 
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Vera, it’s obvious that you once suspected the family at one point and time. What evidence made you change your mind?
 
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I don’t think any of us want this thread getting closed down or to chase away VI’s. It’s horribly hard to read through all the personal jabs to get to the actual info.

As another poster said this forum isn’t for personal attacks and it really should be that way for both VI’s. Of course everyone can post as they see fit but it sure would be nice if all the personal attacks would stop flying around so the important stuff doesn’t get lost in the middle.
 
  • #531
Ask Vera... don’t ask me

Prior to publication, did you contact the tctimes and offer to contribute anything to the upcoming 2 year anniversary article?
 
  • #532
Vera, it’s obvious that you once suspected the family at one point and time. What evidence made you change your mind?
It is not obvious that I suspected the parents. There were a couple of things that Franz said that I thought were strange. But I have since had those things explained and they were explained to my satisfaction. This man is from another country and sometimes they say things in a way that may not make sense to us right away, but given a chance to explain, it became crystal clear what they meant. My own parents were German and I understand how a language barrier, even if it's just a few misplaced words, can appear to change what their intentions were when they said it. This whole thing makes me so sad.
 
  • #533
It is not obvious that I suspected the parents. There were a couple of things that Franz said that I thought were strange. But I have since had those things explained and they were explained to my satisfaction. This man is from another country and sometimes they say things in a way that may not make sense to us right away, but given a chance to explain, it became crystal clear what they meant. My own parents were German and I understand how a language barrier, even if it's just a few misplaced words, can appear to change what their intentions were when they said it. This whole thing makes me so sad.

Thanks for clarifying! I appreciate it.
 
  • #534
It is not obvious that I suspected the parents. There were a couple of things that Franz said that I thought were strange. But I have since had those things explained and they were explained to my satisfaction. This man is from another country and sometimes they say things in a way that may not make sense to us right away, but given a chance to explain, it became crystal clear what they meant. My own parents were German and I understand how a language barrier, even if it's just a few misplaced words, can appear to change what their intentions were when they said it. This whole thing makes me so sad.
Yes, I agree. Some people thought that it was suspicious that Franz told Nikki to get over it. My husband said words to that effect not long after I lost a child. He never faced his feelings and it made him uncomfortable to talk about it.
 
  • #535
As Lt. Shaw said, there is still a killer out there. Rose Township is a predominantly affluent bedroom community. Many of the private properties span several acres. There is really no business there that I know of, other than one gas station/party store. School is about to start again at the end of August. Rose Township children wait for the school bus (in the dark after the time changes) on the dirt roads there. People are still afraid. They don't want to jog, take walks or ride their bikes anymore. I asked the township supervisor for an aerial map of the township. There are literally hundreds of lakes, ponds and streams, anywhere a gun could easily be pitched. Many of these ponds are on private property. Searching those would be like finding a needle in a haystack. I personally am going to focus my thoughts on what could have happened. Are we missing something? The road she was jogging on is very very narrow. On a good day (no snow) depending on the size of your truck or car, you might have to pull over a bit to let the oncoming vehicle pass. I can't believe no one heard a gunshot, let alone four. That particular Saturday it was raining in the morning. After it stopped I can't believe there weren't people outside doing something in their yards. Did the neighborhood children hear anything? Surely, some of them had to be playing outside. Lt. Shaw is right, someone knows something. They may not even be aware that they do. I hope with the continued media coverage that something will spark and they come forward, even if it seems insignificant to them.

BBM. media have reported at least two 9-1-1 callers saying they heard the gunshots. A neighbor said Ally routinely ran past her house. LE have said they believe she knew her killer and asked for tips about a white or light colored 4-door vehicle. If that's the case, Ally was indeed the target and it wasn't random, imo.

Also that Nikki said Ally turned and was trying to run away from her killer.

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  • #536
Vera suspected the parents involvement and witnessed many suspscious behaviors from Franz and Nikki...
Even got to the point where she even suggested the possibility to me that Nikki and Franz May have friends within MSP helping to protect them...

Snipped by me. Vera did you think it was a possibility that the family had ties and were being proteced or was Wes being untruthful with this statement? It also seems from the emails Wes posted Niki’s actions seemed suspicious to you as well not just some of the things Franz said. I totally understand changing your mind about being suspicious of someone. I was just curious what made you change your mind.
 
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  • #537
Since it’s became obvious that mods aren’t enforcing ANY rules anymore I’ll just say this.
FRANZ AND NIKKI HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!
The last 3 guys Ally dated believe this without ANY doubt. Including a mother of one of these exboyfriends!
The community should be very concerned because there ARE murderers living among them.
** note: I have nothing more to add to this thread. Year after year, as this goes case goes cold and unsolved... its now on all of you. You all get to live with what happened here.
Goodbye and take care!**

I hate to see you leave the thread...Do you know if LE has interviewed the other guys Ally dated?
 
  • #538
I hate to see you leave the thread...Do you know if LE has interviewed the other guys Ally dated?

@Combatmedic2121 I was just about to ask the same question.

I would also hate to have you leave this thread. You are going thru so much with grieving Ally and trying so hard to get justice. I'm sorry you are going thru this.

I'm also curious if LE have questioned the 3 former bf's.

Hang in there , Wes. Justice is coming.
 
  • #539
Something happened Friday night at work. Perhaps something only the two of them knew. I find it odd that she wouldn't want to be there just because he had to work. So he says the plans got shifted to Sunday or maybe pushed further back to Monday. Or maybe never, (IMO) because someone ended the relationship.

Maybe that's the reason why Franz asked Ally if she was coming home. Maybe he thought she might be going back to spend the weekend with WS as originally planned. This might also explain why she was 'snippy' as suggested.

Im just saying...
I cancelled plans w my boyfriend/serious long term relationship, today a few hours ago because my wrk schedule changed last minute. We usually spend any down time together but if its not gonna b with each other because one of us is wrking then i or he has other stuff to do/take care of. Sometimes, if I'm honest i totally love to have time at his place quiet/alone if he has to wrk cuz i live w my parents again
 
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