GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #2

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  • #81
I haven't heard back yet re: possible timeline inconsistencies regarding the photo, if I do and I am able to share any additional information regarding it I will.

I don't know if increasing the reward will help or not but running out of options.
Let LE do its procedures and your support group keep searching. If money permits hire PI Jim Carlin
 
  • #82
From Monroe County Sheriff's Office FB:

PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY!

We need to identify and talk to each of the persons in the picture. This was taken during the party, around 1:30AM. Anyone with information on these people is ask to contact 734-240-7700.


https://www.facebook.com/MonroeCountySheriffsOffice

:confused: If this photo was taken at approximately 1:30AM, why would LE say that Chelsea was injured 45 minutes earlier (at 12:45)? She clearly does not have any facial abrasions or bruises and doesn't even appear to have had a bloody nose. Yet the guy behind and to Chelsea's right seems to have fresh abrasions - nose and forehead. Did Chelsea also hurt herself at the party later that night, or does the information about the bloody nose/forehead gash describe that guy? :waitasec:
Yes. I am convinced at this point that LE is stating what they were told by whomever Chelsea called about walking into a pole. I am fairly convinced that that person misunderstood what Chelsea said. It is very unlikely that Chelsea would have walked into a post and received the exact same injuries that the man in the picture appears to have.

Its all a little concerning...you would think LE would have realized this!
Might or might not. And if they have they might not say.

There should be a digital signature that can be revealed with the proper software for the pictures, that will tell what type device made the photo.whether or not they have the capability to decode that, I don't know.
I'm sure they do. I do. The EXIF data is stripped out of the pictures LE posts on line, but they have the originals with all the data intact.

I haven't heard back yet re: possible timeline inconsistencies regarding the photo, if I do and I am able to share any additional information regarding it I will.

I don't know if increasing the reward will help or not but running out of options.
The main thing I see when a reward is increased is that the missing posters are released again with the new reward amount, which usually calls for at least a one liner and new poster picture in media and brings the case back into the spotlight. Contunually reminding people that she is still missing can't be a bad thing. Sometimes, the constant reminder eventually makes someone who knows something speak up.
 
  • #83
Thank you for your thoughts, Ghostwheel. You make such good sense. I think we are feeling lost as to what we can do now, as supporters willing to do whatever we can. Maybe just doing our best to keep Chelsea's face and story out there is our best option, but it feels like so little.

I have never understood how someone can just "disappear," but it is happening too often. There is a clue somewhere....
 
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Yes. I am convinced at this point that LE is stating what they were told by whomever Chelsea called about walking into a pole. I am fairly convinced that that person misunderstood what Chelsea said. It is very unlikely that Chelsea would have walked into a post and received the exact same injuries that the man in the picture appears to have.

<snipped> It's been a very long time since I attended an outdoor concert, but having listened to some of Pick Axe Preacher's music, a phone conversation in that noisy environment would have been difficult :eek:
 
  • #86
Bingo.
The only thing....they won't be able to sleep at night. No amount of pills or booze will blot this out.

:dunno: The "me" generation doesn't seem to give a @#$% about much of anything besides themselves.
 
  • #87
From here, it doesn't look as much like inaction as it does helplessness.

It seems everyone was trying to help in some way in the beginning, but there was just so little to offer, and none of it led anywhere.

I'm of the opinion that *if Chelsea was snatched, the perp was an outsider, not a local. There are a couple of reasons I believe this.

First of all, locals immediately started searching, wracking their brains for anything that might help, posting flyers, and calling in tips. The general attitude has been one of concern & indignation that this could happen here. I feel like if a local were behind this and another local had the slightest suspicion, they'd be reported and questioned. This county is pretty conservative and maybe a little old-fashioned, even the young "alternative" people. No one wants to let someone get away with harming a young lady.

Secondly, that's no small amount of reward money. The sort of crime we see around here is usually fueled by pure desperation. Heroin is a huge problem and people steal to support their habits. It's not an especially easy place to make a living, either, even for those of us without a crippling drug addiction. The cost of living's high and you have to commute to most "high-paying" jobs. That $17,000 is more than some make in a year, and could make someone's life a whole lot easier. I think that if anyone knew anything, they'd certainly be telling it by now.

*It's odd. I'm a pessimist when it comes to almost everything else, but with these missing persons cases I'm always optimistic. I don't want to believe that Chelsea was snatched or harmed in any way. I know it sounds like a soundbite, but seriously -- stuff like that doesn't happen around here.

All of this is JMO.
 
  • #88
From here, it doesn't look as much like inaction as it does helplessness.

It seems everyone was trying to help in some way in the beginning, but there was just so little to offer, and none of it led anywhere.

I'm of the opinion that *if Chelsea was snatched, the perp was an outsider, not a local. There are a couple of reasons I believe this.

First of all, locals immediately started searching, wracking their brains for anything that might help, posting flyers, and calling in tips. The general attitude has been one of concern & indignation that this could happen here. I feel like if a local were behind this and another local had the slightest suspicion, they'd be reported and questioned. This county is pretty conservative and maybe a little old-fashioned, even the young "alternative" people. No one wants to let someone get away with harming a young lady.

Secondly, that's no small amount of reward money. The sort of crime we see around here is usually fueled by pure desperation. Heroin is a huge problem and people steal to support their habits. It's not an especially easy place to make a living, either, even for those of us without a crippling drug addiction. The cost of living's high and you have to commute to most "high-paying" jobs. That $17,000 is more than some make in a year, and could make someone's life a whole lot easier. I think that if anyone knew anything, they'd certainly be telling it by now.

*It's odd. I'm a pessimist when it comes to almost everything else, but with these missing persons cases I'm always optimistic. I don't want to believe that Chelsea was snatched or harmed in any way. I know it sounds like a soundbite, but seriously -- stuff like that doesn't happen around here.

All of this is JMO.

Thank you so much for all this rich context you provide. I appreciate it, as you seem on the mark. My question is would this POI stranger have gone in cold? Could he have scouted the location, his risks at previous concerts? Could he have been seen around then, in June or even May? Hope somebody remembers, as this may be the case, but no way to be sure. The more LE hears from concert goers, their impressions, other local vendors, gas stations, etc... the better. The bands, their fans, the people who set up, they seem to have been in groups in their cars, so was this outsider alone in his car when he arrived? Where would he have parked, possibly to minimize his risk of being seen with Chelsea Bruck as they walk toward the parking lot around 3:15 am? What route would he have taken to be least seen? What direction did he head out?
 
  • #89
Whatever happened with Texas Equusearch?
 
  • #90
I haven't heard back yet re: possible timeline inconsistencies regarding the photo, if I do and I am able to share any additional information regarding it I will.

I don't know if increasing the reward will help or not but running out of options.

When the reward goes up it is news.

Waiting for that one clue.

Prayers to you and your family.
 
  • #91
I haven't heard back yet re: possible timeline inconsistencies regarding the photo, if I do and I am able to share any additional information regarding it I will.

I don't know if increasing the reward will help or not but running out of options.

Everything your family, their friends, the community, and LE, the volunteer searchers do counts. Thank you for keeping us informed.
 
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Texas organization searches for Chelsea Bruck

Posted: Nov 07, 2014 5:12 PM EST

Updated: Nov 07, 2014 5:15 PM EST

Where is Chelsea Bruck? The monroe county woman went missing two weeks ago after she left a Halloween party. A Texas search organization is helping out. It's the same search group that helped to look for the Morenci boys.

Searchers have not found any sign of 22-year-old Chelsea Bruck since she went missing from a halloween party nearly two weeks ago. Groups of searchers scoured a ten mile radius...

...The search for Chelsea has intensified. An organization called Texas Equusearch has stepped in to help the family. The search group is known for handling high profile missing person cases. The family called the group and members of the cincinnati chapter showed up today. They reviewed the sketch of the person of interest. Rader knows detectives can't track Chelsea's cell phone because she left it with a friend. He says the search teams are looking for anything suspicious...

http://www.13abc.com/story/27329449...earches-for-chelsea-bruck#.VF1JNW-HLyw.mailto

ETA: There are a few entries re: Texas Equusearch on Find Chelsea Bruck FB @November 6/7 but nothing recent. It seems like representatives from TES in Cincinnati conducted training sessions for potential team leaders/searchers in Newport at that time. No mention of whether or not TES is still involved in the search effort. Kilen has mentioned that small groups still search but there has been no mention of major searches.
 
  • #94
Good work you W Sleuthers. Unfortunately, time has not allowed me to go over the videos & photos but I try to keep up with some of this puzzling case. This may seem to be an irrelevant comment so I apologize. I keep thinking about the release of the sketch man (not said to be a suspect). I have to believe that LE is fairly confident that the composite is fairly accurate or they wouldn't have wanted it released to the public. We know that this mystery man may hold important clues but I hope that this does not take away from the description of others who may have valuable information or in fact be leading folks in the wrong direction. In that hideous Bernardo/Homolka case in Port Dalhousie, several years ago, LE gave out a suspect's car description. All attention focused on this while time was of the essence. Those poor murdered girls may have been saved. The car description was wrong all along. I'm not by any means saying the sketch man is a suspect only I hope (like my previous example) that this sketch is not detracting from potentially valuable information. IMO
 
  • #95
From article that I posted up thread: Groups of searchers scoured a ten mile radius.

I hadn't known previously that a ten mile radius (presumably from the party location) was searched. For some reason, I thought that the search area wasn't as expansive. If nothing was found, it's probably safe to assume that Chelsea left the area in a vehicle. My gut feeling is that Chelsea accepted a ride with someone with whom she might have been casually acquainted from other music gatherings. After this long, she could be just about anywhere - with or without the individual with whom she allegedly left the Halloween party in the wee hours of October 26. :moo: Still hoping and :praying: that Chelsea is still alive and will eventually return to her family and friends.
 
  • #96
MISSING: Chelsea Bruck &#8211; Monroe County, MI (10-25-14)

Posted on 04. Nov, 2014 by Kevin Cotter in Active Cases, Missing Persons

http://texasequusearch.org/2014/11/missing-chelsea-bruck-monroe-county-mi-10-25-14/

Thank you BetteDavisEyes, for the information. Much appreciated, as well as the perspective below from dairydog

Good work you W Sleuthers. Unfortunately, time has not allowed me to go over the videos & photos but I try to keep up with some of this puzzling case. This may seem to be an irrelevant comment so I apologize. I keep thinking about the release of the sketch man (not said to be a suspect). I have to believe that LE is fairly confident that the composite is fairly accurate or they wouldn't have wanted it released to the public. We know that this mystery man may hold important clues but I hope that this does not take away from the description of others who may have valuable information or in fact be leading folks in the wrong direction. In that hideous Bernardo/Homolka case in Port Dalhousie, several years ago, LE gave out a suspect's car description. All attention focused on this while time was of the essence. Those poor murdered girls may have been saved. The car description was wrong all along. I'm not by any means saying the sketch man is a suspect only I hope (like my previous example) that this sketch is not detracting from potentially valuable information. IMO
 
  • #97
Cliff notes on Texas Equusearch- A representative came, he was very helpful he trained people how to search/what to look for etc and helped put in place strategies for future searches. LE needs to approve them actually coming in as a group to help search and for whatever reason I do not believe they received the authorization they needed.
 
  • #98
I'm guessing that this has been discussed previously, but I would have to think that LE has interviewed all staff and regular customers at the restaurant where Chelsea worked. Were any of these people at the party? I have a gut feeling that the person who took Chelsea was either a friend or acquaintance or maybe even someone who stalked her at her work. Unfortunately, these large parties often attract people who were not invited but who saw the party details on any number of social media sites. I agree with many posters who say that the fact that it was a Halloween party complicates this case. Not all but many would be disguised. Some may have changed midstream. I can't help but think about that ballroom scene in "The Phantom of the Opera"! Eerie!
 
  • #99
Cliff notes on Texas Equusearch- A representative came, he was very helpful he trained people how to search/what to look for etc and helped put in place strategies for future searches. LE needs to approve them actually coming in as a group to help search and for whatever reason I do not believe they received the authorization they needed.

Thank you. In other cases that I've followed where TES has actually brought people and/or equipment, horses, ATVs, etc. to aid in the search, there is a specific designated search area. In Chelsea's case, it's likely that she left the local vicinity (party location) in a vehicle, so searches beyond the immediate 10-mile radius are probably not indicated. I'm sure whatever guidance TES provided was helpful to volunteer searchers and that those who are able and available will continue to explore areas that have yet to be searched. :moo:
 
  • #100
I'm guessing that this has been discussed previously, but I would have to think that LE has interviewed all staff and regular customers at the restaurant where Chelsea worked. Were any of these people at the party? I have a gut feeling that the person who took Chelsea was either a friend or acquaintance or maybe even someone who stalked her at her work. Unfortunately, these large parties often attract people who were not invited but who saw the party details on any number of social media sites. I agree with many posters who say that the fact that it was a Halloween party complicates this case. Not all but many would be disguised. Some may have changed midstream. I can't help but think about that ballroom scene in "The Phantom of the Opera"! Eerie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PxEvj_tvGQ

Chorus/Crowd:
Masquerade! /Paper faces on parade/Masquerade! /Hide your face so the world will never find you/Masquerade! /Every face a different shade/Masquerade! /Look around, there's another mask behind you.

Flash of mauve/Splash of puce/Fool and king/Ghoul and goose/Green and black/Queen and priest/Trace of rouge/Face of beast/Faces!/Take your turn, take a ride/On the merry-go-round/in an inhuman race/Eye of gold/True is false/Who is who?/Curl of lip/Swirl of gown/Ace of hearts/Face of clown/Faces!/Drink it in, drink it up/Till you've drowned/In the light/In the sound/But who can name the face?

Masquerade! /Grinning yellows, spinning reds/Masquerade! /Take your fill, let the spectacle astound you/Masquerade! /Burning glances, turning heads/Masquerade!/Stop and stare at the sea of smiles around you/Masquerade!/Seething shadows breathing lies/Masquerade!/You can fool any friend who ever knew you/Masquerade!/Leering satyrs, peering eyes/Masquerade!/Run and hide, but a face will still pursue you.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/masqueradewhy-so-silent-lyrics-phantom-of-the-opera.html
 
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