GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #2

[rosesfromangels]

I get the feeling that LE truly has no leads in this case. Not seeing anything to make me think they are "watching" someone. Hope I am wrong...but it seems like if they really have followed up on every "tip", looked into the Ohio perp, etc...they are grasping at every straw. Jmo

With an eyewitness and cameras filming all throughout that party...how on earth could they not have a good idea (or know) who this guy is?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

With an eyewitness and cameras filming all throughout that party...how on earth could they not have a good idea (or know) who this guy is?

If you're referring to professional video cameras, weren't those focused primarily on the stage to record band performances? I've watched several videos from the Halloween party and didn't any that showed much besides what was taking place onstage. It's my understanding that the host turned video over to LE. I don't know whether or not everyone who attended the party and took photos/video has done likewise; I hope they did. :moo:

 

[Spellbound]

I wish I had your confidence, roses, but I tend to feel like cluciano. It feels like an octopus with a gazillion tentacles, and none go in the right direction. I hope LE has some solid clues, but my gut feels differently.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I wish I had your confidence, roses, but I tend to feel like cluciano. It feels like an octopus with a gazillion tentacles, and none go in the right direction. I hope LE has some solid clues, but my gut feels differently.

I feel so absolutely sure of this one, that it will be solved. I think some sort of vow of silence has been taken, but will be broken. The Perp is known. Of course this an amateur sleuthing opinion, but it certainly is a strong, strong impression. Let's all hope I've got this one right!

 

[ARealist]

Its very Twilight Zonish isnt it.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Its very Twilight Zonish isnt it.

Well the creepy Halloween party and underworld themes of the music certainly add to that. So yes, agree.

 

[ARealist]

Well the creepy Halloween party and underworld themes of the music certainly add to that. So yes, agree.

Thats not what I was thinking.More along the lines of being taken into another dimension. A phenomena which is beyond our understanding and ability to reason or imagine.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Thats not what I was thinking.More along the lines of being taken into another dimension. A phenomena which is beyond our understanding and ability to reason or imagine.

I see. While I can't subscribe to an alien abduction theory, the behavior of anyone who would perpetrate such a crime is certainly "alien" to most of us, and truly hard to understand. However, having been a member on WS for going on five years, I've come to understand that while a very small minority, there is a percentage of the population who is deranged and acts (seemingly) without conscience.

Prayers surrounding the LE officials working on this case, that they have information and insights given to them to find Chelsea!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I don't even want to speculate about what LE knows or doesn't know. What I know is that it has been too quiet for too long with no updates coming from local law enforcement. If I were a family member, I would be growing increasingly impatient with the seeming lack of progress in the investigation. Chelsea has been missing for nearly three months; time to seriously consider hiring a private investigator. :moo:

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I have only passed through a few times on this case. I hope my question/observation is not too far out in left field.

Did Chelsea know anyone in the band? I read she followed this band quite closely. I am trying to think of what type of people she would be willing to take a ride with and trust. The allure of meeting up with a band member would qualify.

There's no reason to believe that Chelsea was anything more than a avid fan of the band. She attended concerts and helped promote events, but there is nothing to suggest that she was more than casually acquainted with them. To the best of our knowledge, the band has cooperated with LE and has no involvement in her disappearance.

 

[OldSteve]

We took down the Christmas decorations today, but I left Chelsea's purple ribbon. It' been very enlightening reading WSers posts who have been following this case. Almost all of your ideas make great sense. I keep leaning on the idea that this POI knew her from before, even if she wasn't all that familiar with him. He may have used a ruse to get her in his car. The things that stand out, is that nobody seems to know him, and if that is true, and it's not somebody being protected by friends from BM's bash, then these things stand out.

That burglary at the gas station in Maybee, about 26 or more hours later. If it has anything to do with Chelsea Bruck going missing, could have been for gas money and supplies the POI may have needed to get far, because he didn't want to charge it? So could he have paid cash for gas around there a day or so later to get away? He may have hunkered down somewhere until then?

The possible connection to Julia's death, even if it was something that hadn't been planned, if it was the same person, and they had followed the families, then seeing Chelsea Bruck needing a ride may have been too great a temptation.

This does not seem to be the only time this POI may have been involved with something like this. If he is known to LE or not, there is so little information or indication of what happened to Chelsea Bruck that I think this person knew what they were doing. He may have had what he needed to in terms of knowledge, awareness, means, and motive to cover their tracks.

:goodpost: So sad about taking down the Christmas Tree! Agree with your analysis - Adds to "the list" I've begun in try to figure out how these kind of cases get solved (what have I missed?):

Someone saw something and comes forward, the sooner the better.
Surveillance video ID's perp and/or his vehicle.
Forensics yields something that ID's perp.
Social media, phone records reveals perp.
Jail house snitch or someone seeking favor with LE in return for info..
Hearsay - told or overheard.
Whereabouts of known sex offenders.
Something seemingly unrelated turn out to be related including:
New released from prison.
Thefts - car, money (perp on the run might need).
Reports of anything to do against women, even domestic violence.

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[BetteDavisEyes]

...Adds to "the list" I've begun in try to figure out how these kind of cases get solved (what have I missed?):

Someone saw something and comes forward, the sooner the better.
Surveillance video ID's perp and/or his vehicle.
Forensics yields something that ID's perp.
Social media, phone records reveals perp.
Jail house snitch or someone seeking favor with LE in return for info..
Hearsay - told or overheard.
Whereabouts of known sex offenders.
Something seemingly unrelated turn out to be related including:
New released from prison.
Thefts - car, money (perp on the run might need).
Reports of anything to do against women, even domestic violence.

How about perp makes stupid mistake? Perp shows up in the wrong place at the wrong time and inadvertently draws attention to himself/herself.

 

[OldSteve]

How about perp makes stupid mistake? Perp shows up in the wrong place at the wrong time and inadvertently draws attention to himself/herself.

Gotta hope! That would be good!

So latest list:
Someone saw or sees something and comes forward, the sooner the better.
Surveillance video ID's perp and/or his vehicle.
Forensics yields something that ID's perp.
Social media, phone records reveals perp.
Jail house snitch or someone seeking favor with LE in return for info..
Hearsay - told or overheard.
Whereabouts of known sex offenders.
Something seemingly unrelated turn out to be related including:
New released from prison.
Thefts - car, money (perp on the run might need).
Reports of anything to do against women, even domestic violence.
Perp makes stupid mistake being noticed at or around something involving family.

 

[trigger]

How about he does this again but gets caught. They search his home and LE finds Chelsea's wig. (hate going there)

 

[rosesfromangels]

How about he does this again but gets caught. They search his home and LE finds Chelsea's wig. (hate going there)

Creepy, but Perps do often keep "trophy's". A piece of jewelry, a photo, etc.
And with regard to the lack of info from LE, that can (hopefully) mean they are close to something, or quietly keeping the family informed.
However, if that close, I don't think Mrs. Bruck would have gone back to work....unless finances necessitated it, which could be the case.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

How about he does this again but gets caught. They search his home and LE finds Chelsea's wig. (hate going there)

If the same perp was involved in Julia Niswender's death, there is a good chance that he will strike again. :moo:

LE hasn't ever said whether or not they found Chelsea's wig. If there was a struggle after Chelsea got into a vehicle with someone and learned that the person wasn't intending to drive her home, the wig would likely have fallen off. :moo:

 

[rosesfromangels]

If the same perp was involved in Julia Niswender's death, there is a good chance that he will strike again. :moo:

LE hasn't ever said whether or not they found Chelsea's wig. If there was a struggle after Chelsea got into a vehicle with someone and learned that the person wasn't intending to drive her home, the wig would likely have fallen off. :moo:

Sorry if this has already been asked, and answered. Does anyone know if the Niswender girls or Chelsea's sisters ever attended these PickAxe Preacher concerts as well? I seem to be of the thinking that Chelsea's sister attended the Halloween party too, or previous concerts? Is that right? What about the Niswender girls?

 

[FindHG]

Sorry if this has already been asked, and answered. Does anyone know if the Niswender girls or Chelsea's sisters ever attended these PickAxe Preacher concerts as well? I seem to be of the thinking that Chelsea's sister attended the Halloween party too, or previous concerts? Is that right? What about the Niswender girls?

Julia Niswender was killed in off campus housing apartment near her college. Chelsea Bruck was said to have been very much there for the sisters as they mourned, mentioned in an MSM report from the benefit the families held together. If this POI was familiar through Julia's college and kept an eye on the families, he maybe even stalked them on FB and whatever Chelsea posted on their PAP's FB. I know this is making associations that may not be there, and it's done with a lack of information, but either for the need to go somewhere, in some direction with answers or because it does seem possible? Julia Niswender's case has few leads. Where would you start?

IIRC, BM mentions Chelsea's sisters hanging out at his bashes in the past, in his interview standing by his front door. I don't remember anyone else saying anything about their attendance in the past.

 

[trigger]

If the same perp was involved in Julia Niswender's death, there is a good chance that he will strike again. :moo:

LE hasn't ever said whether or not they found Chelsea's wig. If there was a struggle after Chelsea got into a vehicle with someone and learned that the person wasn't intending to drive her home, the wig would likely have fallen off. :moo:

I was using the wig as an example, they could find her top that she made.
LE saying nothing makes me wonder what have they found during their investigation. I wish with all my heart they have someone in mind but Idk.

 

[charminglane]

Julia Niswender was killed in off campus housing apartment near her college. Chelsea Bruck was said to have been very much there for the sisters as they mourned, mentioned in an MSM report from the benefit the families held together. If this POI was familiar through Julia's college and kept an eye on the families, he maybe even stalked them on FB and whatever Chelsea posted on their PAP's FB. I know this is making associations that may not be there, and it's done with a lack of information, but either for the need to go somewhere, in some direction with answers or because it does seem possible? Julia Niswender's case has few leads. Where would you start?

IIRC, BM mentions Chelsea's sisters hanging out at his bashes in the past, in his interview standing by his front door. I don't remember anyone else saying anything about their attendance in the past.

Could it have been someone that met Chelsea through the other family's fundraising/awareness/ search events?