GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #3

[rosesfromangels]

@monster12: Thank you for posting the pictures.

I have several questions:
Where were the clothes found? Was it in or near the abandoned brick building?
Are there any paths in the area searched by police where one could drive a car (SUV, say).
Are there any paths from the abandoned brick building to the train tracks?
Perhaps a perpetrator broke open a freight train car and got rid of evidence that way.

More than one of you has had your radar alerted on the train tracks, the trains. I think dmc in particular.
I "think" those freight cars are thoroughly inspected after each journey. What are you thinking as far as disposal?
I hate to even use that term, but we have to be practical at this point.

Here's what I think. I think she was most likely left out in the open, in a panic. I don't think she is necessarily in the area they are searching, I've mentioned my hot spot suggestion upthread. It's just really hard to see/find people outdoors. Our earthly remains tend to blend in with mother nature. Alternatively, I think there are caves nearby where the "leaf" was found? That would be a good spot to search as well I would think.

Anyway, thanks in advance for your additional thoughts on the train connection.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Re: Reward. There has been a reward posted by the family and CrimeStoppers since early in this case. If someone has information regarding Chelsea's whereabouts or knows what happened to her, or knows the individual with whom she was last seen, the person/s hasn't come forward. I have no doubt that there are people who know what happened to Chelsea that night, but for whatever reason, they're not going to share it with authorities. My guess is that these people fear for their lives or have been threatened with retaliation if they go to LE with what they know. If Chelsea's disappearance/demise is somehow linked to the band, the violent themes in the music would be enough to scare even ardent followers into keeping their mouths shut. :moo:

BDE, ICAM. I think there are more than a few folks who have some idea of what happened but have been threatened to stay silent. I hope they know they can work with LE anonymously. LE knows how to handle these types of threats (if this is the case). I firmly believe that those in the know will cooperate, and this case will be solved. There are good people out there, just scared. They can count on LE to help them. I'm sure they are suffering terribly with the knowledge they have.

 

[FindHG]

More than one of you has had your radar alerted on the train tracks, the trains. I think dmc in particular.
I "think" those freight cars are thoroughly inspected after each journey. What are you thinking as far as disposal?
I hate to even use that term, but we have to be practical at this point.

Here's what I think. I think she was most likely left out in the open, in a panic. I don't think she is necessarily in the area they are searching, I've mentioned my hot spot suggestion upthread. It's just really hard to see/find people outdoors. Our earthly remains tend to blend in with mother nature. Alternatively, I think there are caves nearby where the "leaf" was found? That would be a good spot to search as well I would think.

Anyway, thanks in advance for your additional thoughts on the train connection.

Rosesfromangels, after reading the previous poster who mentioned the same too about canal areas, and continuing to look at monster21's images, one thought did occur. A good deal of dirt and debris has either been dumped there, or there are places that have been back-hoed and refilled, in places that don't make sense, but it is one of those clean up sites.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Rosesfromangels, after reading the previous poster who mentioned the same too about canal areas, and continuing to look at monster21's images, one thought did occur. A good deal of dirt and debris has either been dumped there, or there are places that have been back-hoed and refilled, in places that don't make sense, but it is one of those clean up sites.

At this point, I think it's all about good people cooperating with LE anonymously, and the Trackers and their canines.

 

[GigTu]

@monster WOW thank you.

I am so excited to see locals posting here, and new ones now too. I just know Chelsea feels so loved, wherever she is.

I have an enormous task I would like to present to our locals, old and new, to see if you can apply your knowledge of the area to a very specific location.

First of all, due to TOS I can't really tell you where to look to find the place I want to pinpoint. So I will hint as best I can. Hero has a friend who took videos of some fights. The task is to hone in on the location of those fights. I just feel deep in my gut that it is extremely relevant to finding Chelsea. If you agree to take on this mission, I thank you in advance.

 

[FindHG]

@monster WOW thank you.

I am so excited to see locals posting here, and new ones now too. I just know Chelsea feels so loved, wherever she is.

I have an enormous task I would like to present to our locals, old and new, to see if you can apply your knowledge of the area to a very specific location.

First of all, due to TOS I can't really tell you where to look to find the place I want to pinpoint. So I will hint as best I can. Hero has a friend who took videos of some fights. The task is to hone in on the location of those fights. I just feel deep in my gut that it is extremely relevant to finding Chelsea. If you agree to take on this mission, I thank you in advance.

GigTu

Not meant to offend here, sounds like a very worthy mission, I would hate to have any locals put at risk, have you forwarded this information to the Monroe LE, as they're very good at responding?

 

[rosesfromangels]

GigTu

Not meant to offend here, sounds like a very worthy mission, I would hate to have any locals put at risk, have you forwarded this information to the Monroe LE, as they're very good at responding?

That's actually a very good point, and concern. Right now these Perp(s) are on high alert no doubt. I think you are right FindHG; best left to LE.

 

[Jan]

In some earlier pictures that were put out, it showed the leaf that probably came from Chelsea's costume just laying on the ground in the field with grass and dirt around it. It wasn't hidden anywhere and no other clothes were close to it.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Thx Jan. I'm speculating that LE has found much more than that, but I guess time will tell. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm certainly on pins and needles waiting to hear what has been discovered, and whether they have been able to make any positive DNA identification(s).

 

[monster12]

@monster WOW thank you.

I am so excited to see locals posting here, and new ones now too. I just know Chelsea feels so loved, wherever she is.

I have an enormous task I would like to present to our locals, old and new, to see if you can apply your knowledge of the area to a very specific location.

First of all, due to TOS I can't really tell you where to look to find the place I want to pinpoint. So I will hint as best I can. Hero has a friend who took videos of some fights. The task is to hone in on the location of those fights. I just feel deep in my gut that it is extremely relevant to finding Chelsea. If you agree to take on this mission, I thank you in advance.

Gig tu I have seen Those videos and wondered the same thing. Ugh.


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[GigTu]

@monster WOW thank you.

I am so excited to see locals posting here, and new ones now too. I just know Chelsea feels so loved, wherever she is.

I have an enormous task I would like to present to our locals, old and new, to see if you can apply your knowledge of the area to a very specific location.

First of all, due to TOS I can't really tell you where to look to find the place I want to pinpoint. So I will hint as best I can. Hero has a friend who took videos of some fights. The task is to hone in on the location of those fights. I just feel deep in my gut that it is extremely relevant to finding Chelsea. If you agree to take on this mission, I thank you in advance.

GigTu

Not meant to offend here, sounds like a very worthy mission, I would hate to have any locals put at risk, have you forwarded this information to the Monroe LE, as they're very good at responding?

I am not suggesting a physical inspection. Just asking to have them watch the video and see if it looks familiar.

 

[FindHG]

I am not suggesting a physical inspection. Just asking to have them watch the video and see if it looks familiar.

I see, sorry GigTu. You're trying to figure out the location of the fight?

Could you do screen cap cropping the people out and just posting some of images of location markers you see in them, after checking with the mods if it's okay? Others, like I, may not be able to see them.

 

[GigTu]

I see, sorry GigTu. You're trying to figure out the location of the fight?

Yes. It seems those people think it's far removed from the watchful eye of LE. They staged more than one fight there. Lot of people. They are very comfortable there. It should be located then sent to LE.

 

[dmc43613]

Yes. It seems those people think it's far removed from the watchful eye of LE. They staged more than one fight there. Lot of people. They are very comfortable there. It should be located then sent to LE.

The video I watched shows a vehicle in it and maybe a residence? It looked to me like it was a side lot or back yard, of a mobile home maybe?

 

[Spellbound]

If you all can figure out any locations from those videos, you need to be hired by LE! All I can tell is a sun blob, trees, and a drive/path leading to a house. My guess... possibly Taylor, Detroit, or Newport. (or this one could be remembered wrong). No way to tell that I can figure out. I can only make guesses based on some of the comments attached to videos or FB posts. I am totally lost on this crusade.... good luck to whoever keeps at it.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Yes. It seems those people think it's far removed from the watchful eye of LE. They staged more than one fight there. Lot of people. They are very comfortable there. It should be located then sent to LE.

However, do note that one anxious sounding young woman suggests more than once, "do you want the cops to come?! The cops are going to come!" This leads me to speculate they might have been within visual or audio range of homes or school. School was my first thought. Off campus, in range. Behind the back field maybe. The principle and LE would already know this spot I would think.

 

[GigTu]

I took some stills that I think are helpful. For the dirty fight, they are right next to a river. They walk up to a small courtyard that has a newish looking slab poured. You can distinctly see where the muddy path meets the cement slab. Chain link fencing blocks obvious access to the river, that is probably meant to keep people away. One part of the fencing butts up to a very distinctive tree trunk. It's not a super high fence. Across the river there appears to be a business office or school. Also, a teal car (Oldsmobile Alero?).

The round two video is the one I am most concerned about, however. It looks like a logging road or way off the beaten path access road surrounded by trees. I can see a house/truck in the background pretty far away, but that is the place I feel is related to Chelsea.

ETA: I can't get over how much sketchy twin looks like the sketch. It's uncanny.

 

[GigTu]

Does Chelsea's family know who provided the info for the sketch? I would be curious to know if they could be shown a pic of sketchy twin, just to rule him out.

 

[GGE]

Are you talking about videos on youtube? I wonder if the camera used was fancy enough to embed the GPS coordinates in the file property information like some photographs have? Or whether someone like we casual viewers would be able to discern that from downloading the videos in question and examining them. There's always some way to download the videos but I haven't done webmastering in a decade now hardly at all and I doubt I can find the temp file to find a direct stream/download link... just thinking out loud. Anyway a friend of mine who is more up on this stuff than me says it's doubtful to get that info from the video unless we have access to the original file that hasn't been uploaded anywhere yet.

But if this makes someone think of an idea that WILL work, it's worth posting so I'll go ahead and post this. I never know what you amazing people will manage to do!

ETA: can someone please PM me a link to the videos and an explanation of the players involved so that I can be sure I'm up on nicknames and initials? Thank you!

 

[monster12]

across from field and pond

I'm sure I double posted some of these but I wanted to send a few more. I'll think of a better way to put them all together or arrange them on a google map screenshot so you can understand the area better later this weekend.

I also wanted to add that the second building behind this one is partly demolished and opened up. I don't know if I got a pic of it but if I remember correctly, only one wall was left up. Then the crumbled pieces and other garbage were piled on the ground below so I "think" there's the one building in my pics that's actually a building but seems pretty boarded up. It seems I forget every time what it actually looks like and then I'm surprised the next time I go on how it looks!

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