GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #3

[dmc43613]

I want to make sure I understand correctly what has taken place so far...someone reported seeing a "leaf" alongside the road and it was called in as a tip, so LE went and searched the area and then found a piece of Chelsea's costume? (But the "leaf" that was found by person who called it in was not actually a "leaf" from her costume?) Am I following correctly? TIA

It is my understanding that someone was walking their dog in the area and found articles of clothing and called the tip into LE. In addition to that tip an artificial leaf was found in a ditch not far from the search location.

 

[Spellbound]

It is my understanding that someone was walking their dog in the area and found articles of clothing and called the tip into LE. In addition to that tip an artificial leaf was found in a ditch not far from the search location.

This is my understanding, too, dmc.

 

[monster12]

Great stuff, monster12, ever grateful!

The building you speak of behind it, does it appear as a continuous building to the one in your images above when you see an aerial of the same area?

Actually if you look at the second pic I posted in the group this morning, to the left of the pic, you can see the building I'm talking about. Through the trees you can see just a small wall and the rest of the building is knocked down.

 

[Green-Eyed Blonde]

Nope, sorry.

 

[Green-Eyed Blonde]

If the leaf found in a ditch by itself it the one I saw on TV, it was different from the ivy leaves shown in pics of Chelsea wearing her Poison Ivy outfit. It was more of a devil's ivy or pothos ivy, not a boston type ivy. Many people use fake sprays of leaves in flower pots, instead of real. I don't think it is that ususual to find one stray leaf. But from the TV press report, the leaf wasn't considered to be from her costume. The press interviewed the woman finding it and there were other pits of fluff, stuff which she mentioned she wondered if could have been from another costume. I don't remember which station aired this, as I was watching channels 4, 7 and Toledo 13 and 11 at the same time after the search of Easter and following day.

BTW, the other trailer park on Van Horn and across the field from the building on Peter Rd. is Woodhaven Place, I believe. I worked there part time last year. It is a small community owned by a very large company with its corporate office in Southfield, MI. There have been serious drainage problems in that general area and I was aware of a pond near by, which many have commented on.

 

[rosesfromangels]

http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_1878_24961---,00.html

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Yes, I'm not going to post anything regarding a specific person, but I did have someone I wanted to check. They are *not* on the list.

 

[Spellbound]

Following up on Green Eyed Blonde's post, this is one article that said the single leaf was not from Chelsea.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/28733567/possible-evidence-found-in-missing-chelsea-bruck-case

During Monday's effort volunteer searchers came across a plastic leaf that they feared could be part of a possible crime scene. The area it was discovered is about 15 minutes away by car from Frenchtown Township.

FOX 2 has been told investigators do not think it is related. Meanwhile Moolah, a cadaver dog from Toledo was brought in to help the search with her well-trained nose.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Green Eyed Blonde,

Quite a bit upthread we dwelled on this piece of cloth ivy, and whether we thought it came from Chelsea's costume or not. I think it was BDE (?) who showed a closeup of a pic of Chelsea at the party, and you can see there are indeed two shapes of ivy that she used. The ivy around the bodice was different, IIRC.

This being said, I really don't think LE would have commented on the find, or the ivy in particular if they weren't pretty darn sure this is Chelsea's.
But that is just an opinion, of course.

 

[dmc43613]

Following up on Green Eyed Blonde's post, this is one article that said the single leaf was not from Chelsea.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/28733567/possible-evidence-found-in-missing-chelsea-bruck-case

During Monday's effort volunteer searchers came across a plastic leaf that they feared could be part of a possible crime scene. The area it was discovered is about 15 minutes away by car from Frenchtown Township.

FOX 2 has been told investigators do not think it is related. Meanwhile Moolah, a cadaver dog from Toledo was brought in to help the search with her well-trained nose.

Green Eyed Blonde,

Quite a bit upthread we dwelled on this piece of cloth ivy, and whether we thought it came from Chelsea's costume or not. I think it was BDE (?) who showed a closeup of a pic of Chelsea at the party, and you can see there are indeed two shapes of ivy that she used. The ivy around the bodice was different, IIRC.

This being said, I really don't think LE would have commented on the find, or the ivy in particular if they weren't pretty darn sure this is Chelsea's.
But that is just an opinion, of course.

I am pretty sure the single leaf was found after the articles of clothing and was determined to not be Chelsea's. But it did look like there may have other shaped leaves used IMO

Something I keep thinking about, (and I don't know why) is what type of shoes was she wearing? It's never been mentioned (that I am aware of) and I wonder if they could be the other evidence that was found.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Anyone besides me feel like this..... :scared: while waiting?! What a nail biter!

Yes, when I think about what might have been found and whether or not it is linked to Chelsea's disappearance, I feel somewhat anxious and scared. That said, there are a few other metro-Detroit cases that I'm following at the moment,so there's enough to keep me occupied while we wait for word about what LE found.

 

[Spellbound]

I am pretty sure there is a video with the woman from the trailer park who found the leaf, but I do not remember where it was. The single leaf is seen laying on the ground in the video. LE had already said it was not from Chelsea's costume, and I believe it was even left at the scene. It is possible it was a completely different material than the leaves on Chelsea's top. I would think LE would have snatched it up and taken it with them if there was any possibility that it could be a clue to her disappearance. Therefore, I do not think it is connected. Just my opinion, of course.

wish I could find that video again.

 

[monster12]

I am pretty sure the single leaf was found after the articles of clothing and was determined to not be Chelsea's. But it did look like there may have other shaped leaves used IMO

Something I keep thinking about, (and I don't know why) is what type of shoes was she wearing? It's never been mentioned (that I am aware of) and I wonder if they could be the other evidence that was found.

Oh good point. Never thought about her shoes. Only hear about her wig and outfit. Also do we know for sure she left with her costume on? I know there were several reports of her having clothes in her friends car.... A hoodie and change of clothes. Some people claim they saw her in them and not costume while others say she didn't change. Do we know if her friends had anything in their cars the next day of hers ?


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[emtmomma]

In one of his older pics, he has a pic of a school paper(which has the name of the school listed. It's an alternative school in Newport) with his real name on it. I searched it and an event came up for his family. Their house in Carleton caught fire in early January and I believed was destroyed. Takes me back to wondering when HB called in his tip. Not sure where I was going with that but just came to mind. Also Carleton is not far from flat rock. Depending on what area he lives/lived in, It could be a straight shot down Gibraltar road which would lead you towards the search site. This area is also where some people had made references to 275 and golf courses nearby. There are also the metro parks in this area of Carleton, New Boston, etc.


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Great find Monster12. That correlates with my line of thinking. Jan 29th was the official announcement of charges against Hero but he could have made claims anytime in January

 

[dmc43613]

Great find Monster12. That correlates with my line of thinking. Jan 29th was the official announcement of charges against Hero but he could have made claims anytime in January

Perhaps the Reward money was strongly being considered in the face of such a tragedy? Unless of course, he came forward early in the investigation for fear of Chelsea being found and he feared that along with her body, evidence linking him to her demise, would be discovered.

I really wish we knew WHEN he first went to LE with his story, and how long it took LE to determine he was lying.

 

[charminglane]

Could the fire in January have been started to conceal evidence in the home?

 

[emtmomma]

My theory is a fire would have revealed evidence (during cleanup) so the false story of assisting Chelsea was created to justify and link between the two as a precautionary measure. (Hope that makes sense...had a very long work day)

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Oh good point. Never thought about her shoes. Only hear about her wig and outfit. Also do we know for sure she left with her costume on? I know there were several reports of her having clothes in her friends car.... A hoodie and change of clothes. Some people claim they saw her in them and not costume while others say she didn't change. Do we know if her friends had anything in their cars the next day of hers ?

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Articles of clothing and her cell phone retrieved from the friends car were reportedly returned to Chelsea's family. I believe the family turned the phone over to LE to check call and/or text activity.

 

[monster12]

Articles of clothing and her cell phone retrieved from the friends car were reportedly returned to Chelsea's family. I believe the family turned the phone over to LE to check call and/or text activity.

I know about the phone and I'm assuming they think she had her costume on since that's what they report they're looking for.

The thought of the fire also crossed my mind for the same reasons. Could be an unfortunate coincidence or a cover up ...


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[BetteDavisEyes]

What items of clothing was Chelsea wearing at the time she disappeared? Leaf-covered top (she made it herself), black yoga pants, purplish wig. Bra? Panties? Socks/tights? Shoes? Watch/other jewelry? IIRC, Chelsea is seen in photos holding a silver coffee mug. I wonder if the mug has been found? The mug would almost surely have Chelsea's DNA on it.

 

[monster12]

What items of clothing was Chelsea wearing at the time she disappeared? Leaf-covered top (she made it herself), black yoga pants, purplish wig. Bra? Panties? Socks/tights? Shoes? Watch/other jewelry? IIRC, Chelsea is seen in photos holding a silver coffee mug. I wonder if the mug has been found? The mug would almost surely have Chelsea's DNA on it.

I remember them saying they found the big jug.


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