GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #3

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  • #681
Chelsea walked into a pole at the party, she was clumsy. At least one person that spoke to her after that confirmed it, the girl (former classmate maybe?) who lent her a phone to try and contact her friends to get a ride home noted that she was really upset it about it at the time.
 
  • #682
Thank you Kilen, we all very much appreciate you answering our questions. It helps us a lot.

Everyone else - just doing a little research on crime stats in Monroe to see if there are any notable trends. The city data is only through 2012, I am seeing if I can find 2013 - 14.
Regardless, you might find this interesting. http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Monroe-Michigan.html
 
  • #683
You are all correct: I worked in a Manufactured Home Community and frequently, depending on who owns it, no solicitors are allowed and management has the right to ask them to leave. With the search (helicopter, dog, LW) last week, you can bet everyone knows about Chelsea being missing and being searched for.
 
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I read somewhere in the press that she injured herself (think I remember forehead and bridge of nose mentioned) on a tie down or stake for the tent. I am thinking LE mentioned this and that was why there was blood on her face.

I am still not understanding where some of you found out HB's mother lives in Carleton. All the press reports mention he is from Flat Rock. Just curious.
 
  • #685
Wow awesome sleuthing everyone! Kudos to black_squirrel for finding the connection, clearly you are a valuable asset to the websleuths community. :clap:

I don't know Chelsea but have followed her disappearance closely, she went missing about 5 miles from where I grew up & I've even been to a few parties at MW house in the past. I initially joined Websleuths for the Julia Niswender case, I knew her and have been a close family friend for years. There has been a lot of speculation that these two cases could be related, I however do not believe this to be the case. I believe Julia's murder was well planned & very personal while Chelsea's disappearance may have been well planned, the choice of a victim was whomever happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Based on what we know about Chelsea, under normal circumstances it doesn't seem likely she would accept a ride from someone she didn't know but at 3 am, not wanting to call & wake up her mom & unable to reach another ride home she very well may have.

I think you're all onto something with Hero, I hadn't even thought of the possibility of him being involved with her disappearance but I could never wrap my head around his explanation for lying to LE. Reports say he saw two men harassing Chelsea & helped her into a car which drove away & she was not to be seen again. This doesn't make him sound like a hero at all, she's missing & if the story were true then he actually failed in protecting the bleeding woman who was being harassed. I think the suggestions that he initially believed she would be found & wanted to provide an explanation of why he may be linked to her in someway are spot on. When she wasn't, he wanted it all to go away so he claimed it was completely made up. I also believe the resemblance between the sketch and hero's Facebook friend are uncanny.

Sketchy guy twin posts of drug use on multiple occasions so I would assume the abandoned building within walking distance of your home would be a great place to get away & use drugs for those still living with their parents. Being comfortable with the area & knowing it was pretty secluded would make it a prime spot to take the woman you've just abducted. I may be starting to go into left field with this one but the captor/s may have spent many nights there using drugs & hatching a plan for an abduction.

Another scenario could be one of the boys feeling LE could be getting close panicked & placed the evidence he may have still had in his possession there to implicate his friend/s or to steer the investigation in a different direction. Although if it were the latter, I doubt they would plant the evidence so close to home. I am leaning toward it being left by accident & Chelsea's abductors never returning to the site in order to avoid being linked to the building in any way. Judging by the posts on Facebook, the group may not be the brightest crayons in the box.

Ultimately, I think LE is very close to having the answers in both Julia and Chelsea's cases. These girl's and their families are on my mind & in my prayers daily.
 
  • #686
Hi Sassyspecs,

Yes. I would agree as to your assessment of HB and his associates. And I agree with your speculation. I think some of what he was reporting had some level of accuracy, but he backed down due to fear or threats from others. Speculation on that, of course. As to the possible connection to the Niswender case, your viewpoint is certainly shared by the majority. I however, can't shake the impressions I get looking at the picture of the Bruck and Niswender girls standing together in that now infamous picture. (Julia has her arm around Chelsea). My sleuthing is mostly data and statistically based; what are the odds that those two friends would end up murdered? Look at the murder stats for Monroe and Ypsilanti. The odds these two friends would *both* be murdered, and under separate circumstances is beyond astronomical! How can there *not* be a connection? It defies my logic. So, I'm not letting go of that theory until I hear LE has completely cleared the POI in the Niswender murder......
 
  • #687
Thank you to Kilen and so many others of you who all stepped in to clarify for me regarding Chelsea hurting her nose. I also probably chose an unfortunate alias for "Hero" (well, really I was piggybacking off someone else, but either way it's sarcasm of sorts)... but anyway just wanted to thank you all and mention that Hero's suggestion of "two guys harassing Chelsea and putting her into a car with them" or whatever.. well, going by the "grain of truth" theory... and the fact you all say he has a FB friend who looks like the POI sketch... what's the chance that Hero and FB Friend *are* the "two guys harassing Chelsea" etc...?

Not even IMO, just thinking aloud FWIW.
 
  • #688
I have a question... have any of the Scanner Threads regulars looked into making one for Chelsea? I had thought about it some weeks ago and thought I'd man it part-time but had trouble figuring out which broadcastify link(s) were the right one(s). I don't want to derail this thread of course but if anyone has definitive links for an active and correct scanner then I'll gladly make it and/or help transcribe.
 
  • #689
I have a question... have any of the Scanner Threads regulars looked into making one for Chelsea? I had thought about it some weeks ago and thought I'd man it part-time but had trouble figuring out which broadcastify link(s) were the right one(s). I don't want to derail this thread of course but if anyone has definitive links for an active and correct scanner then I'll gladly make it and/or help transcribe.
What is this??? Forgive my ignorance GGE!
 
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I don't understand scanners very well, but we don't seem to have much as far as "active" scanners here. The best I can ever find is the general Monroe County (Michigan) http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1284/?rl=rr

As far as an actual police scanner........... I would sure be interested in finding out how/where to hear it.

ETA: This is probably why we don't get police scanners online:
http://www.policescanners.net/scanners-mi-wayne-flatrock/

Most Michigan state agencies, including the State Police, use the statewide MPSCS digital trunked radio system, you need a digital police scanner to listen to this.

Many local and county agencies also use MPSCS, so a digital police scanner is required for these agencies as well.
Most of the rest of the state use various VHF or UHF channels that can be monitored on a basic police scanner.
 
  • #693
I don't mean to be pushy or repetitive, but there's been some pretty awesome posts since I mentioned this, and I don't want it to be missed. Sketchy twin has some fighting videos. It would behoove us to determine the location(s) they took place because I just have a feeling they are crucial to finding Chelsea.
 
  • #694
I don't mean to be pushy or repetitive, but there's been some pretty awesome posts since I mentioned this, and I don't want it to be missed. Sketchy twin has some fighting videos. It would behoove us to determine the location(s) they took place because I just have a feeling they are crucial to finding Chelsea.

Hey, push on when you feel you are "on" to something. That's why we are here.
Which one is Sketchy twin again? The one with the initials and made up name?
 
  • #695
Hey, push on when you feel you are "on" to something. That's why we are here.
Which one is Sketchy twin again? The one with the initials and made up name?
Yes. The young one. That guy is sketchy. Haha see what I did there?
 
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I think we have to be careful what we bring to WS from there, but at the same time.... this whole thought line could be 100% relevant so I hope the rules are a little bendy some times.
 
  • #698
Yes, I have which is why it irritated me when BM said he hardly knew her.
 
  • #699
I am now totally curious about this STP show (referenced on TM's FB page as his "workplace") .The plot is giving me goosebumps. Someone else Wikipedia this and tell me I'm not going crazy...
 
  • #700
Also Traacker, I think I'm looking at the same TM as you were, and his workplace is a place in a tv show. So I'm assuming he just put that as some sort of joke since it's not a real place? It's on Netflix ....unless I'm completely missing the point here and you already knew that and you were referring to the type of show it is....
 
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