GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #3

[monster12]

Can someone help me understand comparing the peters rd to images from the party? I don't really understand all the posts about it? Helpppppp.


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[amymarie]

I hope they find Chelsea's DNA along with the person's dna who took her!

 

[dmc43613]

I thought the (apple cider) jug was filled with food-colored water as a prop for her Poison Ivy character. I didn't think Chelsea, or anyone else for that matter, actually drank from the jug. That said, it's possible that someone drugged the beverage Chelsea had in the silverish coffee mug she's holding in some photos. :moo:

Yes, BDE that is correct (verified in first thread I believe) The big jug was just water and food coloring. She was drinking from a travel mug (contents unverified). Tampering would still be a possibility.

 

[GigTu]

Sorry I can't get the "reply with quote" to work. It just keeps hanging up/spinning.

How about this location? You can see a snow-covered cement courtyard that backs up to what appears to be homes. To the right, a chain linked fence butting up to a distinct tree, then wrapping aroung blocking easy access to the river in the background. The courtyard should be unique.

I don't recognize the location, but this sort of "concrete playground" could be from a schoolyard, or often in a subdivision park, perhaps from a trailer park, apartment complex, etc. Although, usually a cement area would be for basketball or tennis (around here, not likely to be for tennis). I don't see a chain link fence, but I do see the wooden privacy fence that separates the homes from the "courtyard"

FindHG ... if I understand your description of what is in the right corner, I believe it is an electrical transmission structure. Like the pic I will attach here. Not uncommon in large open areas: (sorry, having too many issues with iPad this morning, advanced feature would not let me add pic... try google for "electrical transmission tower")

I know you can't really see it in this pic (the one with the river), but from the wooden fence to the tree is chained link, then continues from the other side of the tree (blocking access to the river) all the way as far as I could see.

As you've noticed, there is creative elimination of characters removed from the images. I have two more coming, it just takes time to do all that. I will be sure to include a closeup of the fencing against the tree. The tree is unique within the location, so I think that's an important landmark to help identify where this place is.

Also, I wonder if anyone can spot these locations via Google earth.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I just went back and watched the news clip of the brief comments by "the Hero's" mom. I listened to what she said several times, and was particularly anchored on her statement that she had warned her son not to go to police because he "didn't know what was going on". She *warned him not to go*. This suggests he did indeed consult with his mother about something related to the event, and she most likely told him not to get mixed up in it.

There's something there people. I would like to see the Hero get a thorough poly if he hasn't already, and specifically asked if he has been threatened, and told to recant his story.

I just can't let go of this, but then again I don't know everything LE does. It's just hard to believe anyone would be this stupid, but anything is possible.

 

[rachaellouise]

I hate that things seem to go by sooooo sloooooowyly...


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[Spellbound]

I just went back and watched the news clip of the brief comments by "the Hero's" mom. I listened to what she said several times, and was particularly anchored on her statement that she had warned her son not to go to police because he "didn't know what was going on". She *warned him not to go*. This suggests he did indeed consult with his mother about something related to the event, and she most likely told him not to get mixed up in it.

There's something there people. I would like to see the Hero get a thorough poly if he hasn't already, and specifically asked if he has been threatened, and told to recant his story.

I just can't let go of this, but then again I don't know everything LE does. It's just hard to believe anyone would be this stupid, but anything is possible.

Roses, do you have a link to that video where Hero-boy's mom is speaking? I am so tired (another funeral today) that I just can't look through lists to find it. Thanks!

 

[rosesfromangels]

Roses, do you have a link to that video where Hero-boy's mom is speaking? I am so tired (another funeral today) that I just can't look through lists to find it. Thanks!

http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck

Mrs. B's comments start at 0:59 and are interspersed for the next minute-ish.

 

[Forager]

Can someone help me understand comparing the peters rd to images from the party? I don't really understand all the posts about it? Helpppppp.


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Monster, Are you talking about my post just below? My post #902 about the picture location? GigTu had requested help figuring out the location of two pictures (in post #886). We don't know their location. I don't think those pictures were take at either the Halloween party location or at the Peters Road, Flat Rock, Easter search area.

GigTu, You mentioned a river in an earlier post about the pictures. I was seeing the bright white area in the photo as a field of snow. Do you think it's a river?

 

[GigTu]

If the mom is of good character, hopefully she apprised LE of everything she knows.

 

[FindHG]

It looks to me like it might be one of these perhaps?
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Exactly, what I thought too

You da dmc!

GigTu

What looks like to me a firm bank on the other side of the water of what you refer to a river, that's a pretty solid line, could it be a canal?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=73510&d=1429631762

 

[monster12]

Monster, Are you talking about my post just below? My post #902 about the picture location? GigTu had requested help figuring out the location of two pictures (in post #886). We don't know their location. I don't think those pictures were take at either the Halloween party location or at the Peters Road, Flat Rock, Easter search area.

GigTu, You mentioned a river in an earlier post about the pictures. I was seeing the bright white area in the photo as a field of snow. Do you think it's a river?

I am talking about GigTu's posts with pictures in them. I keep rereading but I am not understanding where these pictures were found. I thought they were screenshots from the news video but I didn't see them. Were they taken from somebody's pic account? I'm just confused. Then I read something about if it was from the Flat Rock site or party site. I'm not understanding where they are coming from and how they relate to this. Maybe I'm just not reading something right. ha! So please help me understand!

 

[monster12]

Oh and in that Channel 7 news video, you can see the report from the Toledo woman and it has the date on it of the incident of her lying....if only they would have put HB's in the video so we can see when he reported it...

 

[FindHG]

Oh and in that Channel 7 news video, you can see the report from the Toledo woman and it has the date on it of the incident of her lying....if only they would have put HB's in the video so we can see when he reported it...

IIRC, he was charged publically about six weeks or so after he was said to have reported his lead, but I'd have to go back to the coverage from the time to confirm that information, so please take it as a very vague and yet unsubstantiated impression.

 

[dmc43613]

I just went back and watched the news clip of the brief comments by "the Hero's" mom. I listened to what she said several times, and was particularly anchored on her statement that she had warned her son not to go to police because he "didn't know what was going on". She *warned him not to go*. This suggests he did indeed consult with his mother about something related to the event, and she most likely told him not to get mixed up in it.

There's something there people. I would like to see the Hero get a thorough poly if he hasn't already, and specifically asked if he has been threatened, and told to recant his story.

I just can't let go of this, but then again I don't know everything LE does. It's just hard to believe anyone would be this stupid, but anything is possible.

I have too Roses, I find her statement to be strange, why and WHO is she referring to? What kid that Harlin knows?

[I wish I could figure out how to bold, I would half of the first sentence]

“One kid that Harlin knows said that he backed up into the girl and said his sorry and went the other way and uh Harlin went down to the police station and I told him he should never had done that because he doesn’t know what is going on, and now it’s turned into this!” Followed up with, “He’s a real good kid; he’s getting ready to - to college for a couple of months so he can go into the Marines”

http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have too Roses, I find her statement to be strange, why and WHO is she referring to? What kid that Harlin knows?

[I wish I could figure out how to bold, I would half of the first sentence]

“One kid that Harlin knows said that he backed up into the girl and said his sorry and went the other way and uh Harlin went down to the police station and I told him he should never had done that because he doesn’t know what is going on, and now it’s turned into this!” Followed up with, “He’s a real good kid; he’s getting ready to - to college for a couple of months so he can go into the Marines”

http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck

Yes, well, there is more to this story. While I don't doubt Hero might have embellished part of the story to make himself look good, there is still something there. LE probably threw him in the slammer to see if they could get more out of him. I think he has been threatened to clam up by those involved, even indirectly. All speculation of course. I'm convinced this kid knows more.

 

[dmc43613]

IIRC, he was charged publically about six weeks or so after he was said to have reported his lead, but I'd have to go back to the coverage from the time to confirm that information, so please take it as a very vague and yet unsubstantiated impression.

That would be around mid December, so before the fire. So could he have worried about saying he had her blood on his shirt? A fire would be a great excuse to not be able to produce evidence.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Something else that just isn't adding up for me is BM's assertion that he only vaguely seems to recollect who she even is. (If I have interpreted various remarks correctly). Granted, some of the pictures she is in with BM could be "posing with the fans" pic. But something doesn't make sense is that she apparently felt comfortable enough with this band & crowd to move about without her girlfriends? Or did she just lose them?
I'm unclear as to whether this was normal for Chelsea, or at what point in the evening she became separated from her "crew". Or, did she feel comfortable enough as one of the band "regulars" to move about safely? I've always known groups of women to keep an eye on each other at parties/outings.

 

[monster12]

Something else that just isn't adding up for me is BM's assertion that he only vaguely seems to recollect who she even is. (If I have interpreted various remarks correctly). Granted, some of the pictures she is in with BM could be "posing with the fans" pic. But something doesn't make sense is that she apparently felt comfortable enough with this band & crowd to move about without her girlfriends? Or did she just lose them?
I'm unclear as to whether this was normal for Chelsea, or at what point in the evening she became separated from her "crew". Or, did she feel comfortable enough as one of the band "regulars" to move about safely? I've always known groups of women to keep an eye on each other at parties/outings.

I have found several pictures and posts where the two of them go back and forth making comments about pictures. Chelsea saying how fun of a night it was and BM making other replies. I would have to say that leads me to believe it was more than just "I'm a fan", especially since she attended several of his events and seemed to follow the band.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Depends on whether his responses were personalized to her. Such as, "yea Chels, it was great seeing you again" or whatever. It's not uncommon for bands to further develop their presence by interacting with fans online. Were his remarks generic, or did they seem more familiar?