GUILTY MI - Jane Bashara, 56, dies in contract killing, Grosse Pointe Park, 25 Jan 2012 #4

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Bravo, I can take over tweeting George until lunch today if you like?

George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN Rachel says she wanted to quit the BDSM lifestyle, but Bob "didn't want to do that." In fact, he wanted to ramp things up, she said. Rachel said she didn't like the pain, but enjoyed someone telling her what to do. Judge asked why she went on the http://alt.com website. Rachel: "There’s a difference between the S&M side and the relationship side. Rachel told Bob she was going to talk to police after Jane died; Bob told her in an email to "lay low,' she said. Judge: “Why did you continue seeing him if you knew this man was married?” Rache: “I think it’s like anybody in an abusive relationship..." " You get the …apologies….and you want to believe it.” They met with a 3rd woman and went to the dungeon. "He blindfolded us both, put us in his van and said we were going somewhere." Bob drove the two women to his family home. "We got to the bottom of the staircase when he let us take our blindfolds off. I pretty much freaked out, because I didn't want to be there.In the marital bed, Bob, the other woman and Rachel had sex. They spent the night there. This was in 2009.Bob and the other woman slept in the bed. "I slept on the floor," Rachel said. In 2010, “There was an incident where his daughter had seen a text message from another woman; a picture she had sent of herself.” "He cancelled the text messaging feature on his phone, to prove to his daughter he wasn't going to do that anymore."
 
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN

But, Rachel said, Bob eventually restored the texting feature. In 2011, Rachel and Bob made an offer on a home in Grosse Pointe. They put $1,000 down on a home at 1304 Bishop. They looked at a second house but it was next door to one of Bob's good friends, which made Rachel uncomfortable, she said. Bob told her he was going to borrow money from his mother to buy the house. The closing date on their dream house was to be Jan. 27, 2012 – three days after Jane’s murder.
 
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN

Bob told her she would have to "deal with my schedule" Judge and Lindsey asking why she put up with it. "I don't know," Rachel said. 7/15/2011 email from Bob: "Good morning. I cannot wait or hold it in. I am like an excited boy who wants to blurt it out, lol." "I doubt that I could find someone as close to what I want in my life. We gel in so many ways.." "Yet there has been friction, mostly centered on my situation. But it is coming to a close." In most of Bob's emails, when he referred to himself, he would capitalize "Me" or "Myself," and refer to Rachel in lowercase letters.

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10:13 Hank Winchester@HankLocal4
Rachel reveals she, bob and another slave had threesome in Bob & Jane's bed. She was brought into home blindfolded #BobBashara @Local4News
 
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN

Bob promised Rachel wouldn't have to work, and that he'd help her start a retirement fund for her children. Lisa: "Did he mention money for his kids? Rachel: "No." Rachel said she talked with Bob about a "poly" situation - bringing a 3rd woman into the household. Bob: “I will not be on any sites. I will not contact anyone. You will for me. I have now learned my lesson.” Bob: “You worry about assimilating into Grosse Pointe, but don’t worry. I’m a huge figure here, and have many friends.” Bob referred to himself as “The Mayor of Middlesex” sometimes, and bragged about “his deceased father’s standing in the community.” Bob's dad was a Michigan Court of Appeals judge. Grandpa was a state senator. Bob tooled around the Pointes in his Lincoln Navigator, with the vanity plate "Big Bobb." When Rachel said she once drove Jane’s car, the judge asked: “So you slept in this woman’s bed, and now you’re driving her car?”

[Jeez, this judge asks so very many questions]
 
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10:35 Hank Winchester@HankLocal4

Bob tells Rachel he's a "huge" figure in "his" community & called himself "the mayor of middlesex rd" @Local4News #BobBashara
 
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN

Bob's Email: “I will now stop the lying and hope I can regain your trust. I stand here naked (not really) before you.” Bob's email: “Not having (Jane) in my house …will be a huge rock lifted.” Email: “Good morning. I am sitting here with tears running down my face. I emailed one girl…not to 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 around but to find someone for us.” “I know what I did was hurtful. I did one stupid thing looking for one to join us. You are my slave. I only want you, period. No one else." Bob: “I love you with all your shortcomings.” They began seeking a 3rd person, and made contact with woman in Oregon about a month or two before the murder. Bob flew to Oregon to meet with the woman in mid-Jan. 2012 - right before the murder. “We were going to be gone the day after Christmas. He said this would be his last Christmas with his children (and Jane) in the family home. In December, 2011, they went to S. Carolina for her daughter’s wedding. Bob gave her $$ for wedding expenses.

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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN

Judge is asking a ton of questions about their relationship, including why Bob gave her $$, and if she was in the relationship for the $$. Throughout the proceedings various attorneys drift into the courtroom for a few minutes, apparently to hear this testimony. Yesterday, too. Bob called Rachel from Oregon and said he liked Janet Lehmann. “He thought she might work out, but she would have to meet me," Rachel said. Judge: "I thought you said you wanted him to yourself, and that you wanted a traditional relationship. What changed?" Rachel: "He couldn't have a traditional relationship. One of the things he told me was if he had 2 women at home, he wouldn't be on the..."websites." Lindsey: "So you didn't value yourself." Bob told Rachel he preferred her to Jane, "Because I put him on a pedestal." Rachel said she was reluctant to criticize Bob because he often complained Jane criticized him.

[It appears that the judge perhaps is trying to point out to the jury things that might be specific to BDSM.... nope judge... just a narcicistic cheating lying controlling ba*(t*** murdering man with a vulnerable woman he is trying to control... that happens in all relationships and not just bdsm community ... thinking that most of the jurors can see this easily :gaah: hope they can :moo:]
 
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN

Rachel asked to see divorce papers. “He told me that he had lost his copy (and) when he went to get another copy…his atty was on vacation.” Rachel sent an email to Bob on Jan. 20, 2012. “I wanted to know for sure that he was really divorced," she said. She said she wanted to be sure he was divorced because she was about to put her name on documents. Rachel’s email: “We started our relationship with lies and there have been lies all through it. Why should it be different now? Rachel's voice cracked when she answered Lindsey's question about Bob calling to say Jane was missing. The word "Yes" caught in her throat. She saw Bob between 12 and 1 the day of the murder. Around 9, he called her. “That’s when he told me he came home and found Jane’s work bag, and she wasn't there, and he had started to worry.” She said Bob was "frustrated" because he told her Jane had insisted they get together that night to work on taxes. About 1 am he calls again and tells her “Jane was still missing.” Later, “he started using his mother’s phone.” “He wanted me to contact Janet…and to tell her to stop communicating with him. He wanted to keep the phone lines clear, or clean.” Bob later told her it was because of the investigation. Bob said people were coming to the house to offer condolences. He wanted her to come over, but she didn’t. He also asked Rachel to come to the candlelight vigil, and she went. Bob told her he thought Jane had been carjacked. “He said he thought some ni**ers did it,” Rachel said. Bob told Rachel that she and Janet Lehmannn should lay low during the investigation.
 
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They met with a 3rd woman and went to the dungeon.

"He blindfolded us both, put us in his van and said we were going somewhere."

Bob drove the two women to his family home.

"We got to the bottom of the staircase when he let us take our blindfolds off.

I pretty much freaked out, because I didn't want to be there.

In the marital bed, Bob, the other woman and Rachel had sex.

They spent the night there. This was in 2009.

Bob and the other woman slept in the bed. "I slept on the floor," Rachel said.


Hmmmmmm ....
 
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I hear ya. I have a Nephew in Milan and more Family in Ann Arbor
Doesn't Kwame Kilpatrick live in Milan (in prison)? Or did they let him move to a different prison? (sorry off topic)
 
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Hey Everybody - remember your links, please. The only thing that can be copy/pasted is MSM Twitter and we need the link.

Thanks so much.


What a hard trial to follow. It's always so hard for me to believe people actually do stuff like this.

Salem
 
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When Rachel said she once drove Jane’s car, the judge asked: “So you slept in this woman’s bed, and now you’re driving her car?”

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Doesn't Kwame Kilpatrick live in Milan (in prison)? Or did they let him move to a different prison? (sorry off topic)

Cant remember where he ended up. I live in Canada but did follow much of that saga
 
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