MI MI - Jessica Heeringa, 25, Norton Shores, 26 April 2013 #7

[goldenbear]

Another news report stated the girl died in the pond about a week ago, she is in her 20s, and a car was found nearby. A man was seen to be rummaging in the trunk.

 

[margarita25]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9331625&postcount=1053

 

[margarita25]

Whoever this is, rest in peace

That city name struck a cord with me because that's where the guy who was the last to see Lauren Spierer lives...

I hope it's not Jessica. I doubt it is since it's hours away though.

small world

 

[margarita25]

Most search and rescue groups do not charge families but they have to have a specific area to search, IMO, like the groups that tried to help find Dylan Redwine. They came to work specific areas. Where would the search for Jessica even begin, after four months? JMO

I suggested some places in Jessica's initial threads, FWIW.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Today marks the beginning of the final summer weekend before school starts across Michigan. (Many private and parochial schools have already started school, but public schools don't resume until after Labor Day.) Weekend travelers will be heading "up north", to the Great Lakes, inland lakes, campgrounds, state parks. I hope that this long holiday weekend that marks the end of the summer tourist season will bring a lead or a tip that will help locate Jessica and bring closure to this case. lease:

 

[goldenbear]

http://www.hometownlife.com/article...0/Body-found-in-West-Bloomfield-Township-pond
The body found yesterday in a Bloomfield pond of a young woman in her 20s is tenatively identified as a local resident. Her name is not released. This would eliminate her as Jessica Heeringa. Good websluthing.

 

[goldenbear]

Norton shores is currently experiencing a thunderstorm. Those planning to search this holiday will find many areas not in the path of the storm. Those areas will be a comfortable 80 degrees.

 

[Flutterby80]

Bumping for Jessica. Wondering why we've heard no more about the attempted luring at Lake Harbor park.

 

[goldenbear]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/missing-persons
A man pushed his wife out of the car along a road and abducted their 3 children 2 girls and one 8 year old boy. They were found by Michigan LE 12 hours later. They had been out in the rain with no food or shelter. With all the rescues etc LE has little time to be looking for Jessica Heeringa.

 

[imamaze]

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/254912/2/Expert-Heeringa-case-fits-pattern-of-stalking-abduction
Expert: Heeringa case fits pattern of stalking, abduction
One of the nation's leading experts on stalking and sexual assaults is an instructor in Michigan and he shares his thoughts on the Jessica Heeringa disappearance.
Steve Thompson is an instructor at Central Michigan University, who has focused his education on psychology and the study of human movement. Thompson has worked with several police departments across the country.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I suggested some places in Jessica's initial threads, FWIW.

Obviously some bodies are found quickly while others are never found.
What happens to the ones that are never found nobody knows. The wilderness/forests are vast though making it possible to hide a body that is never found. But is it perp luck or people who know what they're doing?

One thing for sure is that if searches aren't done, like were conducted in Jessica Ridgeway's case whose body was found, who knows if body is anywhere nearby.

A case where a 31 year old mom from SC went missing in August, her body was found within a week between bushes (I read by a brush clearer and then later by a woman - so not sure who found it) twenty miles from where she lived. They've made an arrest in her case.

Causes me to wonder if the crimes of the never found/harder to find people could be by organized criminal/s.
Yet, in the other case, if she had been killed/left in a more remote area maybe she'd still be missing too. It's hard to say.

 

[margarita25]

Obviously some bodies are found quickly while others are never found.
What happens to the ones that are never found nobody knows. The wilderness/forests are vast though making it possible to hide a body that is never found. But is it perp luck or people who know what they're doing?

One thing for sure is that if searches aren't done, like were conducted in Jessica Ridgeway's case whose body was found, who knows if body is anywhere nearby.

A case where a 31 year old mom from SC went missing in August, her body was found within a week between bushes (I read by a brush clearer and then later by a woman - so not sure who found it) twenty miles from where she lived. They've made an arrest in her case.

Causes me to wonder if the crimes of the never found/harder to find people could be by organized criminal/s.
Yet, in the other case, if she had been killed/left in a more remote area maybe she'd still be missing too. It's hard to say.

Oh, Woe. This just sucks all round. I can't believe this case has turned out this way....it seemed like there was stuff to go on...a clear suspect sketch and description, 2 pieces of surveillance footage showing the van, possible rsos...

This might be the last chance we have before the snow comes in again...

I know she could be anywhere, but if this was a sexually motivated abduction, at least those who are skilled in these types of investigations should be conducting searches relating to awareness space formulas, open space/park/water areas, etc. The terrain is challenging, ugh...I just feel like there's got to be something, somewhere in these threads...

Hugs to all of you that have hung tight in this case.

 

[margarita25]

http://www.hometownlife.com/article...0/Body-found-in-West-Bloomfield-Township-pond
The body found yesterday in a Bloomfield pond of a young woman in her 20s is tenatively identified as a local resident. Her name is not released. This would eliminate her as Jessica Heeringa. Good websluthing.

Any updates on this case?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Whether Jessica is alive or deceased, after 4 months, she could be practically anywhere. How would an organized search team know where to start looking for the missing young woman? If Jessica is still alive, she either doesn't want to be found or she has not found a way to escape from her captor(s). If deceased, Jessica's remains would likely be stumbled upon by hikers or hunters. At this juncture, organized searches seem futile unless there is evidence of a generalized direction or location where Jessica might have been taken. :moo:

A recent show featuring the case of a woman, Dru? taken from a mall parking lot in ND, is one where they conducted huge searches in an effort to find her. Going with your point though, they had a cellphone ping off a tower in MI, so they organized searches nearby there. Still, how would they know the guy didn't toss the phone and keep driving along? Miraculously, they found one of her shoes giving evidence she had been nearby in an area under a bridge. They eventually found her body.
And, eventually solved the case too - very impressive police work imo.

 

[cluciano63]

Having a phone ping is at least a starting point. Kelsey Smith was found this way too,I believe. In many cases, when the body is found nearby and relatively soon, there is often a POI, which gives LE some ideas as to where to search. Without a POI or pings...it seems to come down to luck, mostly, usually just a citizen stumbling across a body or bones, i.e Katelyn, Morgan and some others. JMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Oh, Woe. This just sucks all round. I can't believe this case has turned out this way....it seemed like there was stuff to go on...a clear suspect sketch and description, 2 pieces of surveillance footage showing the van, possible rsos...

This might be the last chance we have before the snow comes in again...

I know she could be anywhere, but if this was a sexually motivated abduction, at least those who are skilled in these types of investigations should be conducting searches relating to awareness space formulas, open space/park/water areas, etc. The terrain is challenging, ugh...I just feel like there's got to be something, somewhere in these threads...

Hugs to all of you that have hung tight in this case.

I'm surprised massive searches weren't conducted after JH first went missing. I understand why, after several weeks, the searches die down but why assume she's not nearby? Unless LE knows more than we do which is always a possibility.

Look at Kelli Bordeaux's case, at least in the beginning, LE attempted to search the most likely immediate areas. Independents continue searching to this day. So they know where Kelli isn't but I don't get the no effort to search at all stance in JH's case. Because, if they knew JH was taken far away, why search anywhere nearby at all. They searched the Hoff-- Park, one industrial area and some other area near water -so only three immediate areas have been searched. Why do that if LE knows/feels she was taken far away?

In both cases, I fear remains could be disposed of on private property - Holly Bobo's case too. It's not impossible.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Whether Jessica is alive or deceased, after 4 months, she could be practically anywhere. How would an organized search team know where to start looking for the missing young woman? If Jessica is still alive, she either doesn't want to be found or she has not found a way to escape from her captor(s). If deceased, Jessica's remains would likely be stumbled upon by hikers or hunters. At this juncture, organized searches seem futile unless there is evidence of a generalized direction or location where Jessica might have been taken. :moo:

This is why I don't believe in psychics. I believe intuition should be considered a valuable tool though and think some people are very in tune with their own intuition. Also the body language experts can offer insight as long as the perp isn't a sociopath. Except sometimes they are so smooth that that's an indication of perpdom too (Bashara). Also I believe God can bring light to situations in life so why not in solving murders? I've experienced some uncanny coincidences that provided me information that was hidden that I needed to know about. But I haven't cracked the code on when or why or why not and probably never will. I definitely believe in good and evil along with the idea of free will.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Another news report stated the girl died in the pond about a week ago, she is in her 20s, and a car was found nearby. A man was seen to be rummaging in the trunk.

Isn't this the second young woman to die in a pond (with car nearby) in MI since JH's case began? Both times we were made aware wondering if it might be JH. They weren't but could the other two cases be related? What's up with that?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Having a phone ping is at least a starting point. Kelsey Smith was found this way too,I believe. In many cases, when the body is found nearby and relatively soon, there is often a POI, which gives LE some ideas as to where to search. Without a POI or pings...it seems to come down to luck, mostly, usually just a citizen stumbling across a body or bones, i.e Katelyn, Morgan and some others. JMO

When the body is found though, no matter how long it takes, as least peeps will quit speculating that a young lady simply ran away when her family knows otherwise. In Morgan's case, she was left along the road but within a private property line, right? So someone harmed her and shortly thereafter just randomly dumped her body. Iirc the landowner discovered her while driving his tractor around his property. It's ashame he hadn't done that sooner. What a horrible discovery though. Her case remains unsolved, correct?

 

[SteveP]

I still check here a couple times weekly, hoping for any news at all that may help to find Jessica. I have not and will not forget about her, and pray that someone who knows something will get a conscience and go to LE with any information they have.