The family members here have been careful to state what they know and what they do not know. They didn't always live so far away either. They lived in the same residence for most of the girls lives fwiw. I'm going to take them at their word since they have personally been in the home, know the family members well and can speak for themselves as to what they have seen with their own eyes. They have a longer history with the family than anyone else; particularly prior to Julia's murder; and are more motivated than most to find out the truth of what happened.
An observation I'd like to make is that some are willing to discount our family members posting based on a rift that has developed since Julia's death. However they would also like us to discount a rift that had existed between Julia and her parents prior to her death. (though it does seem it was getting better based on her social media posts). Why is that? Also the whole "blame Grandma Rose" bit has gotten a bit worn out, particularly because Rose isn't the only person to have suspected James Turnquist. It has been alleged that Grandma Rose went to LE. No one knows that for certain except Rose and LE. Even if true - she isn't the only one who suspected him. The grandparents raised the girls up to the age of 10 (iirc) and were more like parents to them than grandparents. Julia remained close to them both throughout her lifetime, particularly her grandfather who she adored. (also in her social media).
If family members state there are three computers, I have no reason not to believe them. I do have reason not to believe JT and KT however, as it has been shown several times that they have been evasive and uncooperative. (according to LE and MSM).
And begging your pardon but it isn't "he said / she said" because KT and JT are not here. Only some people who supposedly get information from them second hand. So it's more like she said she said / they said.
Opinion stated as fact? You don't personally know what they did, regarding data and deletion do you? Regarding the number of computers; we have verified family members with first hand accounts concerning how many (and what types) of computers were in the home when they were *personally there.*
Now if you'd like to find a link to MSM or get KT or JT to directly post, I'd be willing to discuss it. But for now, this is jus tyour opinion being stated as fact.
Going back a few posts you stated JT had passed a lie detector test "according to his lawyer." Okay, that's all well and good but LE hasn't said that JT passed, have they? TIA
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Psyquestor, thank you for your posts. <modsnip> WE know the family, although what we do know had either came from KT or JN themselves (now I really question what they have shared with us in regards to Julia's murder investigation, as I believe you all should) and the rest of information is coming from LE and other relatives that are close to the family, or should I say HAD been close to the family, for if people in the family didn't stand behind JT, and KT and JN supporting them, then we were NO longer listened to. What sickens me, is from DAY one after Julia's death, we got ALL of our information from KT. Think about that, KT was extremely close to the detective investigating Julia's murder, and KT and JN was .... how can I say this "controlling the show' so to speak, they wanted EVERYTHING to go through them, they didn't want us to talk to the detectives, KT put on a good show, calling us and asking us to do certain things, write letters to TV stations like 20 20 & Dr. Phil, she said that she and the whole family would be doing the same thing. Come to find out, NO one else in the family knew about it, never was contacted by KT to write ANY letters!!!! SHE herself, never wrote a letter as far as we know.
As harsh as this may sound, I really think that KT and JN perhaps liked the attention after Julia's death, NOT so much after LE start investigating them that had lived in the Turnquist home. WHERE are they now, they are feeding those people in their 'friends and now their family, in KT's words 'that they never liked or cared about' information. Manipulating them by only their stories. Same stories we had heard since Julia's death. As any other investigation eventually, usually early on, they look closely at FAMILY.... the first DETECTIVE must have truly had her blinders on, and seemed to overlook doing that. It wasn't until the second detective took over the investigation that the TROUBLE started. THE Turnquist family seemed to think that they should not be looked at closely, and they NEVER voluntarily turned over the computers. WE KNOW That for certain, we remember getting a phone call from KT, she was very upset and so was JT about LE taking their computer, so is that cooperating!?
We do live over 1000 miles away, and I'm sure we sure have missed a whole lot of what goes on up in our MI family through the years. But we are only a phone call away, seems my Husband (Trojan1966) has basically had a one sided relationship with his children. He is a giving, loving and supportive Dad who loves his children NO matter what, hasn't always been thrilled about the decisions they have made or the direction that they were going, but still he loves them, and always will. I on the other hand, accept them, care about each and every one of them, have always been concerned about them, and have always wanted the very best for them. It sickens me to know that everyone in this family are struggling and hurting and have so much anger towards each other. I pray every day, for all of them, and especially our youngest granddaughter that lives in the Turnquist home, she has been exposed to so much stuff that NO child should ever be privy to... her Mom has no filtering system .... and has ALWAYS talked about 'adult' conversations' in front of her daughters. As for responding to any of the folks that are getting fed information from KT, JT, JN or CN, I will not respond to your posts. If KT, JT, JN or CN get on here and become a verified member, then that would be great. AT least then we have comments straight from the immediate family and they would have to be OPEN and responsible for their posts. AND their comments would hold some weight in this investigation. Until then, I take anything that the 'JT's supporters post as 2nd. and 3rd. hand information. I know, a person is innocent until proved guilty and all.... but really, JT and KT past history tells a story that really makes one wonder and makes you stop and THINK, what they really know about Julia's murder. Praying that they were NOT involved in anyway.
Also, I have to remember that this is a internet site, that is filled with people that are interested in the many aspects of crime, investigations and perhaps support. BUT this particular link is about helping find Justice for Julia.... openly, with varied opinions. But my point is, it is about Julia. Unfortunately, because of her step Dad's child
charge and being the only POI in Julia's murder, and lack of completely cooperating with LE, sadly it seems to have become all about defending JT. IMO
