MI - Laura Dickinson, 22, raped & murdered, Ypsilanti, 13 Dec 2006

[nanandjim]

...All you have to do is read a Dad's Divorce Forum to hear some horror stories and I've got my own...

I really don't see how some of the guys can make it with what they are paying out. My husband was fortunate. He paid a pretty penny. However, I had a good job. When we married, we split all of our bills 50-50. This allowed him to keep his head above water with his obligations. He never complained about anything.

I never nagged him about any of his money going out. He has always felt that it is his obligation to support his children. He also feels that it is his obligation to put them through college (even though it is not in the divorce decree). He also felt that it was his responsibility to pay for his daughter's wedding even though he had no say in it whatsoever.

As Dr. Laura would say, you knew that he had kids and an ex-wife when you married him. Yep, you are right, Dr. Laura...

We have been extremely fortunate that my husband's children are really good kids! KNOCK ON WOOD!! He could have been paying for lawyers, etc., if they weren't!

His daughter is doing well, is a college graduate and is employed. His son is a junior in college and doing well! As a parent, you can't ask for anything more.

 

[ziggy]

That's a great success story Nan! Your are absolutely right and mr. zig has no problem with the obligation, in fact he is really the mom and the dad as he's been the nurterer (sp?) all along and would love nothing more than to have his kids full time. It's just that the ex uses most of the support for herself and her boyfriend (twice divorced with kids, pays NO child or spousal support, lives in the home and mistreats the kids) then wants him to pay again for expenses support should cover :furious:
Finally the judge seems to be catching on...last court date she sat there uninterested when they were discussing the boy's diabetes and the best interest of the kids in other areas and then the minute they got to the DissoMaster and the $$$, she was squirming and almost jumping out of her chair, raising her hand to the judge like a kid in school.

I agree that Mack crossed the line and was a COMPLETE idiot for staying with a crazy woman like her and having a child to boot.

I'm just saying... men are discrimintated against by Family Court. I think it's wrong to push them to the kind of stress that I see. The good ones, like yours and mine rise to the occassion, but it's not good for their health and just not fair.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Agreed, but I am starting to see how someone can be pushed over the edge. And then add someone who is unstable anyway. The FCS needs to change - They always stress the welfare of the children, but sometimes that comes directly from the welfare of the parent or parents which they totall ignore. It's not in the best interest of the children for their Dad to be castrated by the system imo. Sure it goes both ways, but honestly, it's very one-sided. All you have to do is read a Dad's Divorce Forum to hear some horror stories and I've got my own. Some judges are playing it safe by siding with the mom no matter what and they rip the family further apart.

Sorry, off topic. Carry on.

Yes, but obviously the judge was right in this case since either the father is a raging murderer or a lunatic.

 

[nanandjim]

...then wants him to pay again for expenses support should cover :furious:
Finally the judge seems to be catching on...

My husband's ex- tried to pull this in the beginning, too. I can remember her son telling my husband that he needed a haircut and a new pair of tennis shoes. He said that he gave his mother money for those things. The poor boy was caught in the middle and too young to understand. Of course, he threw a crying tantrum when my husband said, "No." The ex-wife finally realized that he was not going to be manipulated into doing these things and she stopped.

I feel certain that his daughter does not remember saying to us when we were out at dinner one evening that "her mom said that she could come and live with her dad if he kept sending her the money." I thought that was so sad.

I really hope that the judge will speak to your boyfriend's children and find out what is going on in their mother's household. I'd love for the judge to question the mother about the living arrangements and what the boyfriend does for a living, too. Also, inquire about his children and his financial arrangements.

I would do as much background research and provide it to my attorney to help him inform the court as to what is going on.

Best of luck to you! I hope that your boyfriend gets custody of his children. :blowkiss:

 

[Bobbisangel]

You've got to be kidding me.

One juror said the state didn't prove he was in the room...lady you idiot, HE ADMITTED HE WAS IN THE ROOM, HIS ATTORNEY ADMITTED IT.

Man. I've lost faith in the system.

Who is Orange Taylor? Is his case here somewhere?

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/laura_dickinson_trial/

info about his retrial

 

[joe jones]

I think it is still scheduled to start on the 31st March,

last time it was streamed on a local Detroit station, I hope it will be the second time around

 

[joe jones]

Who is Orange Taylor? Is his case here somewhere?

http://www.courttv.com/trials/taylor/102307_mistrial_ctv.html

 

[joe jones]

Jury selection begins today for the retrial

 

[joe jones]

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080331/METRO/803310365&imw=Y

trial will probably begin tomorrow

 

[joe jones]

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/15755419/detail.html

openings

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/breaking_news/emu_trial/

openings on video

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/breaking_news/emu_trial/

testimony from trial today, semen found on her body is matched to Orange Taylor as it was in the first trial

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2008/04/scientific_evidence_introduced.html#more

jury makeup

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2008/04/_assistant_public_defender_lau.html

testimony from trial, following a very similar pattern to the first trial

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2008/04/investigators_layout_thier_cas.html#more

they are showing the ctv that showed a person all in black going in and out of the halls on the night of the murder

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2008/04/final_prosecution_witnesses_to.html

trial has skipped along, nearly all over already

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2008/04/testimony_phase_of_taylor_murd.html

once again defence ops to present no defence, I wonder if pros played the second tape of Oranges interviews with the police this time

 

[joe jones]

http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2008/04/defense_rests_on_trial_against.html

jury deliberating

 

[joe jones]

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080404/NEWS18/80404078&OAS_sitepage=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

latest blog, seems this time round they are saying that he did do something in her room which is why her semen in there, but what they are coy about, the defence dismissed it in opening as two drops of semen do not make him a murderer,

we shall see what this jury make of that defence