MI - Nevaeh Buchanan, 5, Monroe, 24 May 2009 - Body found - #5

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  • #161
Hinjosa said there was a mention of getting the girl’s dental records, but he and Sherry Buchanan said Nevaeh had visited the dentist only once, and X-rays of her teeth were not taken then.

http://a11news.com/2020/nevaeh-buchanan/

That would make sense.
We have seen her graduating from head start video (very sad, she was so happy).... according to their website head start requires that their students see a dentist http://www.mhsa.ws/HSSCO.asp?id=5.

I thought I remembered filling out head start paperwork after exams.
 
  • #162
The mom has given more than one time that this child told her Nevaeh was playing in the road. At this point, I'm thinking this child is made up.
According to an LE press conference, Nevaeh was reported missing at 6:30. (According to other news reports, she was reported missing at various times between 6:00 and 8:30.)

Surely LE would have interviewed the child who told JB that Nevaeh was riding in the road. If JB couldn't name that child it would be a huge red flag.

At first (I thought) it was reported that JB learned Nevaeh was missing at 6:15 and reported it at 8:30.
 
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that's another timeline all messed up
he was with savannah (argh, who is driving me insane) until 730, when he left to give a friend a ride, returning shortly thereafter.
he was with savannah but then went searching for Nevaeh after hearing from JB for a while (maybe like 7-8 or so?), THEN went out taking friends here n there.
Who knows what that guy was doing that day (although, imo, the guy didn't do it )
Unless there is evidence of recent sexual trauma, I am almost leaning to mom hurting nevaeh for whatever reason, then calling George to help cover it up...explaining why one theory is she was buried "with care"...he was sad. He "already knew" he was going back to prison. Why, if this scenario is true, he is not giving her up, I'm not sure....other than since he is already going back, and she has stood by him, he's just planning to take the whole rap.
idk, i'm all confused
 
  • #165
I agree. And that is beyond enough time for murder & burial by the river. MOO

Yes but it's still daylight at that time. Very nervy if that's the case.
 
  • #166
Surely LE would have interviewed the child who told JB that Nevaeh was riding in the road. If JB couldn't name that child it would be a huge red flag.

At first (I thought) it was reported that JB learned Nevaeh was missing at 6:15 and reported it at 8:30.

Here's a round-up of the early reporting, re the timeline.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84950&page=4

ETA We have heard nothing about this so-called child except from Jennifer. The story about the child may be a huge red flag. LE are not commenting on whether Jennifer is a POI.
 
  • #167
Surely LE would have interviewed the child who told JB that Nevaeh was riding in the road, if JB couldn't name that child it would be a huge red flag.

At first (I thought) it was reported that JB learned Nevaeh was missing at 6:15 and reported it at 8:30.

The initial reports were that the "pick your version of which child came and said what" between 6:15 and 6:30, 911 is not called until 8:20 (which to me is reporting your child missing.

This is another discrepancy though (I know you are all shocked) as JB says the kid came to her door and that she looked for her for 40 minutes and then called 911. Those times don't work.

Not to mention I don't even have a kid and I know 40 minutes of literally not knowing where your kid is is way too long to look around the complex (without knocking on doors or drawing attention to yourself). I lost my friends son in the mall one day, he was hiding in a clothes rack, it was probably 2 minutes I didn't know where he was and I thought I would have a heart attack. There is no way I could have done that for forty minutes before getting help.
 
  • #168
Taken from Nurse's post on the first page:

9) George and Roy had been hanging out the day Neveah went missing.

Has this been confirmed? At what time where they together? I thought Savannah said she and George were together alone all day until he drove a friend (what friend?) home at 8:30.
 
  • #169
Do we have a post where all of JB's statements have been collected so we can look at them all at once? TIA because I know I must have missed it :)
 
  • #170
Could someone repost the information (or video) of the beer can and the fire they found at the scene?

The fire could be from anyone fishing there at night, but if the beer can was found in the shallow grave with her...the chances are good it was the perp's.

I thought I read the 90 lb. cement was sold at a couple of other places besides the plant next to GK's motel. (I think it probably did come from that place, but we need to try to be as accurate as possible.)

Since there was a rubber glove in the fire and it was partially burned they think the fire is of some significance.
 
  • #171
The initial reports were that the "pick your version of which child came and said what" between 6:15 and 6:30, 911 is not called until 8:20 (which to me is reporting your child missing.

This is another discrepancy though (I know you are all shocked) as JB says the kid came to her door and that she looked for her for 40 minutes and then called 911. Those times don't work.

Not to mention I don't even have a kid and I know 40 minutes of literally not knowing where your kid is is way too long to look around the complex (without knocking on doors or drawing attention to yourself). I lost my friends son in the mall one day, he was hiding in a clothes rack, it was probably 2 minutes I didn't know where he was and I thought I would have a heart attack. There is no way I could have done that for forty minutes before getting help.

I agree, I would have been knocking on all the doors, especially those of her friends. Others would have joined in the searching. It's all very odd.
 
  • #172
Do we have a post where all of JB's statements have been collected so we can look at them all at once? TIA because I know I must have missed it :)

I'm working on it!
 
  • #173
that's another timeline all messed up
he was with savannah (argh, who is driving me insane) until 730, when he left to give a friend a ride, returning shortly thereafter.
he was with savannah but then went searching for Nevaeh after hearing from JB for a while (maybe like 7-8 or so?), THEN went out taking friends here n there.
Who knows what that guy was doing that day (although, imo, the guy didn't do it )
Unless there is evidence of recent sexual trauma, I am almost leaning to mom hurting nevaeh for whatever reason, then calling George to help cover it up...explaining why one theory is she was buried "with care"...he was sad. He "already knew" he was going back to prison. Why, if this scenario is true, he is not giving her up, I'm not sure....other than since he is already going back, and she has stood by him, he's just planning to take the whole rap.
idk, i'm all confused

The Savannah thing is crazy making isn't it? That is how I ended up spending way too much time on it. Everytime I would hit another dead end it would frustrate me more and convince me that there has to be a reference to her somewhere other than this case. I tried different spelling, bordering states, looked at every savannah, Sa..VA..NN...ah myspace page until I finally decided that is not her real name so I could stop myself.
 
  • #174
I live in the area. This whole thing has been absolutely horrendous! The mother is trash, and yes, grandma knew that there were predators around Neveah. They both should be charged with neglect.
They've released that the fisherman that found the body also said a day or two after her kidnapping, he noticed a small dark pick up parked on the road by the spot as he went by there everyday.
This area is really remote. It wasn't a well travelled fishing spot, the area is rather small that you could stand there on the bank and fish, so I don't think it was real common for people to go there. The fisherman that found her happened to know of the spot because of him driving by there everyday.
I also wonder with all the comments about dragging the body, cement, etc. down the incline, why hasn't anyone considered that he took her there by boat? Talk about silently leaving a body..that would be the way to do it. Absolutely no one would see you. Has anyone addressed this yet? The water at the bank is approx. 3-4 feet deep, plenty of depth to take a small boat in. I'm loathe to say it, but since there were no marks on her body, he could have drowned her there and hurriedly buried her. Especially since it appears she was killed pretty quickly after being taken. And with the half burned latex glove...he was thinking. This isn't something he thought up on the quick. He planned this. And I agree he must be local, if not from Monroe, from the surrounding area. Alot of people from Toledo go to monroe to fish. Alot.
I think the quikset didn't set up right because it was to wet. The fisherman was actually standing on the slab of quickset (he cried when saying that he can't sleep at night knowing he was standing on her little body) with his fishing rods (2) leaning against the two rocks. That's why he was able to chip away so to speak at the concrete, because he said it didn't feel right.. It was "giving" under his feet instead of being a solid slab and it got him to thinking, "Something's not right with this" so he started to chip away at it to see what was underneath.
I can't stand to see that piece of trash mother and grandmother on TV with their crocodile tears...the only one I feel sorry for is the real dad who Michigan said couldn't have custody when mommy went to prison because she had a grandmother in Michigan as next of kin. Michigan has always been extremely prejudiced against "Toledo" (where I live) and I can absolutely see that happening. Once I heard mommy on the radio saying "Just because he offended, doesn't mean he's going to do it again, " "He's a father figure to her" and "Anyone can be an offender, I have no problem with him being an offender" and those are basically direct quotes, once I heard that I knew Neveah was lost to us forever. A cat would have been a better mother to her! Ugh! I just am completely raged out at the mother and grandmother! They may as well just have handed over the little soul to whoever did it.
The 2 hour response time is HIDEOUS. Absolutely NO excuse! Especially in lieu of what was going on...has anyone responded to that?
I know I'm ranting, I can't help it!
I'm also ticked off that an Amber Alert did not go out until the next day..why was that?
 
  • #175
The initial reports were that the "pick your version of which child came and said what" between 6:15 and 6:30, 911 is not called until 8:20 (which to me is reporting your child missing.

This is another discrepancy though (I know you are all shocked) as JB says the kid came to her door and that she looked for her for 40 minutes and then called 911. Those times don't work.

Not to mention I don't even have a kid and I know 40 minutes of literally not knowing where your kid is is way too long to look around the complex (without knocking on doors or drawing attention to yourself). I lost my friends son in the mall one day, he was hiding in a clothes rack, it was probably 2 minutes I didn't know where he was and I thought I would have a heart attack. There is no way I could have done that for forty minutes before getting help.
I'm going to repost this rough draft timeline. Lots of links still to check, but this gives an idea of some of the discrepancies.
Navaehtimeline-1.jpg
 
  • #176
Since there was a rubber glove in the fire and it was partially burned they think the fire is of some significance.

Obviously this perp is not very smart but I find it very difficult to believe he would start a fire while secretly burying a body. I think the fire pit was built by others who had fished there. I use rubber gloves when I fish - can't stand to touch slimy stuff.
 
  • #177
Yes but it's still daylight until at that time. Very nervy if that's the case.
So true, but I was thinking the area might be somewhat isolated and even riskier to do it at night with a steep embankment if he couldn't see. Also, if there were two people involved, they could always be "fishing" during daylight. MOO
 
  • #178
Looking at Steadfast's graph - Did Savannah ever mention JB calling or GK going to look for Nevaeh? I thought her story was that she was with GK all day, he left for a bit at 7:30 to drive someone home, and then he was picked up by someone at 10:30.
 
  • #179
I love the chart and have already been going back to reference it since you put up the first post.

The police say that mother reports that Neveah disappeared around 6:30... reports as in that is what she told us. But she doesn't notify the police until 8:20. I would relabel those two events since they are confusing. 6:30 JB allegedly becomes aware of disappearance. 8:20 authorities are notified of a missing child.
 
  • #180
Does anyone else recall reading that two people who provided GK's alibi were given polygraphs? I wonder if Savannah was one of them. Also, I recall reading one report saying that GK's alibi covered the time between 4 and 7 pm. I really don't want to go searching for links....anyone?
 
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