MI - Nevaeh Buchanan, 5, Monroe, 24 May 2009 - Body found - #5

[SeriouslySearching]

It is so frustrating. I am looking for a 911 call source and have found 4 or 5 legitimate sites and they all say she was last seen at 8:15 which is much closer to the supposed 911 call.

When they can't narrow down the time she went missing, they will use the 911 call time for the purpose of knowing she was gone by that time. I have seen this a few times on AAs.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I would think that if she had given three different accounts, she's be a POI by now. MOO

True, but maybe she is and we just don't know it.

 

[panthera]

True, but maybe she is and we just don't know it.

Good thoughts, my friend!

 

[azwriter]

I live in the area. This whole thing has been absolutely horrendous! The mother is trash, and yes, grandma knew that there were predators around Neveah. They both should be charged with neglect.
They've released that the fisherman that found the body also said a day or two after her kidnapping, he noticed a small dark pick up parked on the road by the spot as he went by there everyday.
This area is really remote. It wasn't a well travelled fishing spot, the area is rather small that you could stand there on the bank and fish, so I don't think it was real common for people to go there. The fisherman that found her happened to know of the spot because of him driving by there everyday.
I also wonder with all the comments about dragging the body, cement, etc. down the incline, why hasn't anyone considered that he took her there by boat? Talk about silently leaving a body..that would be the way to do it. Absolutely no one would see you. Has anyone addressed this yet? The water at the bank is approx. 3-4 feet deep, plenty of depth to take a small boat in. I'm loathe to say it, but since there were no marks on her body, he could have drowned her there and hurriedly buried her. Especially since it appears she was killed pretty quickly after being taken. And with the half burned latex glove...he was thinking. This isn't something he thought up on the quick. He planned this. And I agree he must be local, if not from Monroe, from the surrounding area. Alot of people from Toledo go to monroe to fish. Alot.
I think the quikset didn't set up right because it was to wet. The fisherman was actually standing on the slab of quickset (he cried when saying that he can't sleep at night knowing he was standing on her little body) with his fishing rods (2) leaning against the two rocks. That's why he was able to chip away so to speak at the concrete, because he said it didn't feel right.. It was "giving" under his feet instead of being a solid slab and it got him to thinking, "Something's not right with this" so he started to chip away at it to see what was underneath.
I can't stand to see that piece of trash mother and grandmother on TV with their crocodile tears...the only one I feel sorry for is the real dad who Michigan said couldn't have custody when mommy went to prison because she had a grandmother in Michigan as next of kin. Michigan has always been extremely prejudiced against "Toledo" (where I live) and I can absolutely see that happening. Once I heard mommy on the radio saying "Just because he offended, doesn't mean he's going to do it again, " "He's a father figure to her" and "Anyone can be an offender, I have no problem with him being an offender" and those are basically direct quotes, once I heard that I knew Neveah was lost to us forever. A cat would have been a better mother to her! Ugh! I just am completely raged out at the mother and grandmother! They may as well just have handed over the little soul to whoever did it.
The 2 hour response time is HIDEOUS. Absolutely NO excuse! Especially in lieu of what was going on...has anyone responded to that?
I know I'm ranting, I can't help it!
I'm also ticked off that an Amber Alert did not go out until the next day..why was that?

jashrema, you're one of the reasons Websleuth is such a great site. You're a local resident who can provide so much more to the case that none of us across the country can ever get from media coverage.
You're idea about a boat being used to place the body at the scene is an example of how locals can provide such valuable input.
Thank you for posting. Looking forward to more of your posts about this case and the local flavor of how this is unfolding. Keep 'em coming.
azwriter.

 

[impatientredhead]

I would think that if she had given three different accounts, she's be a POI by now. MOO

LE hasn't said much of anything in public.
Just because they haven't said it doesn't mean she isn't a POI.

I am way cynical but as said in another thread about another case, the truth doesn't change, it is not hard to remember.

It doesn't even have to make sense really, but it is a static item.
Mom can't keep a straight story even about what her relationship with GK is...

IF she is a POI but she was not physically there (ie she knows where she last saw her alive and is an active part of trying to cover it up) she will be the hardest to make a case against.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Good thoughts, my friend!

Totally contradicting what I just posted - We know that JB was not able to fool the polygraph because she failed at least one question. If they asked her outright if she knew what happened to Nevaeh or if she harmed Nevaeh, I think they'd have known if she was lying. If they really think she's involved, I think they'd lock her up for something. I'd consider her to be a flight risk, there's nothing to keep her in Michigan.

 

[Donjeta]

that's another timeline all messed up
he was with savannah (argh, who is driving me insane) until 730, when he left to give a friend a ride, returning shortly thereafter.
he was with savannah but then went searching for Nevaeh after hearing from JB for a while (maybe like 7-8 or so?), THEN went out taking friends here n there.
Who knows what that guy was doing that day (although, imo, the guy didn't do it )
Unless there is evidence of recent sexual trauma, I am almost leaning to mom hurting nevaeh for whatever reason, then calling George to help cover it up...explaining why one theory is she was buried "with care"...he was sad. He "already knew" he was going back to prison. Why, if this scenario is true, he is not giving her up, I'm not sure....other than since he is already going back, and she has stood by him, he's just planning to take the whole rap.
idk, i'm all confused

I find this scenario a bit difficult because JB and GK would need to be really really really good friends for him to want to get involved in handling a dead child's body and take the risk of getting the blame for somebody else's crime. I don't see him as such an altruistic person or so in love with JB that he'd do it just to be kind to her. Violating parole might get him in trouble anyway but not nearly the kind of trouble that being a suspect in a child murder case does. And whether or not she was hidden LE would investigate her death and his involvement with the family was sure to come up with the abduction investigation, so hiding her away wouldn't solve that problem for him.

If I was a RSO in his shoes and I got a call from an acquaintance that they've killed their child and want my help in covering it up, with great personal risk to me, I'd tell her no way and go out immediately trying to establish an alibi for myself somewhere where there are surveillance cameras, lots of people who'll remember me and preferably a few police officers around.

 

[elle1919]

I must admit I never even thought about the fact that a boat could have been used to transport the body. That would explain to me at least how someone could get a body and a 90 lb bag of concrete onto the bank of that river without the help of another able bodied person. I had a sliver of a thought that 2 people might have done this to Nevaeh after seeing the slope of the embankment. But a boat of considerable size would be plausible....would it not? Anyone know where I could see a map of the river or something?

 

[STEADFAST]

I nominate Steadfast as Sleuther of the day! Awesome time line and support. Thanks.

Thanks, AZ, but it's only scratching the surface of the various stories. I've still got to track down at least JB's radio interview and read her interview with Nancy Grace.

And find a direct quote from LE re 911 call time!!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

So is it possible that Roy S. is really the one who took her and the reason everything seems to aim at GK is because Roy spent a lot of time with him? He is the one with his nephew's van and he could have been the one to steal the cement. He doesn't show up until 10:00pm to give them a ride. His alibi of mowing lawns would only take care of the afternoon and not that night.

As soon as they do a DNA test on any evidence found on/in her body, they will have their proof. Fingerprints can also be taken off a body.

 

[STEADFAST]

When they can't narrow down the time she went missing, they will use the 911 call time for the purpose of knowing she was gone by that time. I have seen this a few times on AAs.

But this is the Amber Alert --
Monroe police have issued an Amber Alert for a missing 5-year-old girl.
Neviaeh Amyah Buchanan was last seen around 8:15 p.m. Sunday at 1166 N. Macomb Street in the city of Monroe, 33 miles Southwest of Dearborn, MI.
Police found the girl's bicycle abandoned in the parking lot of an apartment.
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local...ng_Monroe_Girl

 

[Donjeta]

When did LE talk to GK and Savannah for the first time?

 

[TripleA]

I think that we have all been spoiled by the Sunshine Laws and are jonesing for accurate information from LE.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Thinking out loud...

911 call at 8:15 after JB says she searched for 40 minutes. That takes us back to 7:35. According to JB (yeah, I know) the child came to her door to either report that Nevaeh was riding in the street or couldn't be found at 6:15. If my figuring is correct, that leaves one hour and twenty minutes unaccounted for.

GK was with Savannah (again, I know) until 7:30 and then left for a few minutes. What time did he meet LE back at the motel? How much time would he have had to snatch Nevaeh, do whatever he may have done to her, and bury the body under concrete? It doesn't seem possible.

 

[impatientredhead]

When did LE talk to GK and Savannah for the first time?

According the report I just posted GK and Savannah were met at the motel by waiting officers who took them in after 10pm the night of

 

[impatientredhead]

Thinking out loud...

911 call at 8:15 after JB says she searched for 40 minutes. That takes us back to 7:35. According to JB (yeah, I know) the child came to her door to either report that Nevaeh was riding in the street or couldn't be found at 6:15. If my figuring is correct, that leaves one hour and twenty minutes unaccounted for.

GK was with Savannah (again, I know) until 7:30 and then left for a few minutes. What time did he meet LE back at the motel? How much time would he have had to snatch Nevaeh, do whatever he may have done to her, and bury the body under concrete? It doesn't seem possible.

If Savannah's story were true there is no way GK could be involved at all. She only gives a window of 30 minutes away from her home.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I really don't understand why JB calls George right away, after she is unable to locate Nevaeh. Could it be that she immediately thought he might have her and if so, had he ever taken her before without notifying them, or did she automatically make the SO/missing child connection ? She did call George before she called LE, right ?

 

[Donjeta]

If Savannah's story were true there is no way GK could be involved at all. She only gives a window of 30 minutes away from her home.

Is this 30 min supposedly when he was helping to search for Nevaeh? That was way quick for him to lose hope.

How far is the Kmart from the place she was found?

 

[Chilly Willy]

Does anyone have a link to George's story of what he did that day? Doesn't it include going fishing with someone?

 

[panthera]

So is it possible that Roy S. is really the one who took her and the reason everything seems to aim at GK is because Roy spent a lot of time with him? He is the one with his nephew's van and he could have been the one to steal the cement. He doesn't show up until 10:00pm to give them a ride. His alibi of mowing lawns would only take care of the afternoon and not that night.

As soon as they do a DNA test on any evidence found on/in her body, they will have their proof. Fingerprints can also be taken off a body.

Maybe I'm way off here, but even though both these guys are RSO, neither one of them was convicted of molesting a child around Nevaeh's age. I'm wondering if there's another one in the area, maybe someone who GK knows. that fits better? Another thing is RS is a huge guy and I can't see him having any agility on a steep embankment. Your thoughts?? :waitasec: MOO