GUILTY MI - Paul DeWolf, 25, fatally shot in Ann Arbor frat house, 23 July 2013

[jjenny]

It would be very unusual to commit suicide by shooting yourself in the neck. If there was no gun shot residue on his hands, suicide is ruled out.

Was the gun with his body, though? Wouldn't the killer take it??? Unless they wanted it to look like a suicide?

There was no gun found.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I read that the bullet wound was in an area he could not have reached himself.

When you think about it, there is only one place an able bodied man cannot easily reach, in his own neck, assuming they know the trajectory of the bullet thus the way the gun was held.

The only part most folks wouldn't be able to aim directly into easily is spine part.

We know the bullet stayed in his body, so it didn't pass straight through him.

As someone posted, that means it was either angled up or down.

If it was angled up, he could have theoretically done it himself.

Angled down - fairly impossible I would say.

So, based on all of the above, I'm guessing the shot in the neck from above and behind, as if he was sitting at his desk with his back to the door.

He didn't see it coming.

All :moo:

 

[kittycat3]

I've stated this before but I feel quite strongly about it - Julie's and Paul's killers are different as night and day. I see absolutely no connection between these two cases.

JMHO

 

[popsicle]

Black Squirrel, I think you are the one who submitted Sarala Sarah's CNN interview to eyesforlies. She commented her opinion here.. http://eyesforlies.uservoice.com/fo...a-sarah-cnn-interview-on-the-murder-of-paul-d

 

[black_squirrel]

I read that the bullet wound was in an area he could not have reached himself.

I think that was just speculation. Police reports or news outlets have not stated that anywhere, as far as I know.

When you think about it, there is only one place an able bodied man cannot easily reach, in his own neck, assuming they know the trajectory of the bullet thus the way the gun was held.

The only part most folks wouldn't be able to aim directly into easily is spine part.

We know the bullet stayed in his body, so it didn't pass straight through him.

Again, we do not know that. Police has not said anything about the bullet.
They may have found the bullet in the body or in the room, but so far they have not released any details.

As someone posted, that means it was either angled up or down.

If it was angled up, he could have theoretically done it himself.

Angled down - fairly impossible I would say.

So, based on all of the above, I'm guessing the shot in the neck from above and behind, as if he was sitting at his desk with his back to the door.

He didn't see it coming.

All :moo:

 

[black_squirrel]

Black Squirrel, I think you are the one who submitted SS's CNN interview to eyesforlies. She commented her opinion here.. http://eyesforlies.uservoice.com/fo...a-sarah-cnn-interview-on-the-murder-of-paul-d

Yes, I was thinking that perhaps there was more that she was not telling in the interview, but "Eyes for Lies" did not see any signs of deception in that interview.

 

[missgulfsouth]

I've stated this before but I feel quite strongly about it - Julie's and Paul's killers are different as night and day. I see absolutely no connection between these two cases.

JMHO

I agree.

Is there a forum here for Julia? I'm very curious what others think about her case.

 

[kittycat3]

Yes there is a forum for her case.

I am also not surprised about Eyes For Lies finding that there was nothing of concern in that video. Poor girl seemed nervous and that's it, not to mention dealing with the tragic and terrifying loss of her friend. Again, I know college students frequently use the phrase pass out, so her slip of the tongue is not surprising to me one bit (although it is ironic.)

 

[bourne]

Yes there is a forum for her case.

I am also not surprised about Eyes For Lies finding that there was nothing of concern in that video. Poor girl seemed nervous and that's it, not to mention dealing with the tragic and terrifying loss of her friend. Again, I know college students frequently use the phrase pass out, so her slip of the tongue is not surprising to me one bit (although it is ironic.)

Yeah, I had already said this in a prior post awhile back, I saw nothing suspicious in her behavior on the aired interview.

I also saw nothing suspicious about the gay friend of Paul either in the tv interview.

 

[bourne]

I think that was just speculation. Police reports or news outlets have not stated that anywhere, as far as I know.

Again, we do not know that. Police has not said anything about the bullet.
They may have found the bullet in the body or in the room, but so far they have not released any details.

Kyle Feldscher on his twitter at 10:37 AM - 29 Sep 13 posted a reply to detfrost that he will share the ME report with the public when he finally gets it.


So we will be able to discern these fine details about Paul's body, e.g., where the bullet penetrated on his neck (front, back, side, carotid, cervical spine, etc.) and if there was an exit wound, etc. I hope the autopsy report also states whether Paul had defensive wounds to his hands, and how long Paul was still alive after he was shot. I want to know why he didn't appear to have done anything to save himself or done something to indicate who the killer was.

 

[bourne]

I've stated this before but I feel quite strongly about it - Julie's and Paul's killers are different as night and day. I see absolutely no connection between these two cases.

JMHO

Thus far, I've seen nothing that indicates any similarities from the two cases: very different victims, manner of deaths, M.O.'s of killer, etc. The only slight similarities are that both are students in the generic sense and that both appeared to have been killed at night and in Michigan. I would count these slight similarities as pure unconnected coincidences.

 

[bourne]

No news story identified a girlfriend, but I can see why they would not want to do that. I am pretty sure though that LG was his girlfriend. For example, she posted on her fb a picture of Paul and her om Feb 14, wishing everyone a happy valentines day.

What is LG's full name and has she done any tv interviews we can analyze?

 

[bourne]

Exactly. Serial Killers are the "Unusual" that Occams razor excludes.

BBM. Actually no, Occam's razor does not automatically exclude the "unusual".

Occam's razor only eliminates the *highly implausible* scenarios, which means scenarios where there is *little to no evidence* to support those claims. This also means, where you have to make enormous leaps of logic aka large number of assumptions to get the scenario to work.

 

[bourne]

This is the one and only reason I hate, well not hate, but am filled with fear being a mother of a child who is technically an adult who still has a lot of growing up to do. Talk about Russian roulette (with better odds, I hope).
Humpty Dumpty :fence:; :drumroll:; lease: no :jail:; or too many :cheers:; with not enough :countsheep:!!!
:banghead: because :heartluv: much.

LOL. I love these smilies! So cute! Made my day!

My favorite: :yourock:

I know what you mean. As a mother of two young kids, I too fear what my children would face when they're not in the comfort and safety of my home (and line of vision). I always tell my friends whose children are at camp or in college, make sure your kid turns on their laptop webcams so you can monitor what they do like a nanny cam! I think one of the hardest things for kids (and even some adults) to resist is PEER PRESSURE -- to drink, do drugs, engage in reckless behaviors...

 

[black_squirrel]

What is LG's full name and has she done any tv interviews we can analyze?

I was adviced not to use full names her. But shehas not done any interviews. She spoke on a memorial event for
Paul at the university and shared some memories.

 

[OldSteve]

I've stated this before but I feel quite strongly about it - Julie's and Paul's killers are different as night and day. I see absolutely no connection between these two cases.

JMHO

Unless there is a nut-case out there who is a serial killer and believes he/she is superior by purposely doing things to be night and day different.

Okay, kittycat3, I know it's bit far fetched... and I respect your feeling that the two cases are not connected...

 

[missgulfsouth]

Unless there is a nut-case out there who is a serial killer and believes he/she is superior by purposely doing things to be night and day different.

Okay, kittycat3, I know it's bit far fetched... and I respect your feeling that the two cases are not connected...

Occam's Razor suggests far fetched, indeed.

 

[bourne]

I asked Salem, the WS admin, and she says this is fine to post Fb entry

I think it's important to trace Paul's last activities online and in person as such may help with the investigation of his murder.

His last post on Facebook was on July 21, 2013 the Sunday right before July 23 -- just TWO DAYS before Paul was reportedly murdered. In the Fb entry, Paul congratulated his sister RD on her birthday and called her the "greatest sister in the world" and also congratulated her on her recent accomplishment of "becoming a CNA."

https://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-DeWolf/22425396

I wonder if Paul's salute of his sister's accomplishments and calling her "the greatest sister in the world" may have triggered his murderer's jealousy and rage.

Also, Paul's parents had stated in a tv interview that the sister last spent time with Paul the Sunday before his death so this would mean Paul and his sister were physically together. I wonder if this also means Paul's other family members were also present with Paul that Sunday...

At this time I'd like to add that severe mental illness has a high correlation with sudden rage killings, particularly if the perp goes off their medication. I believe we've all seen/read about this phenomenon in the news (e.g., the recent shooter Aaron Alexis on naval base in Washington, DC, just the latest in a long line of unstable, mentally ill murderers).

And no, Paul's sister does not have mental illness and I'm not saying the sister was Paul's killer.

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[Woe.be.gone]

No news story identified a girlfriend, but I can see why they would not want to do that. I am pretty sure though that LG was his girlfriend. For example, she posted on her fb a picture of Paul and her om Feb 14, wishing everyone a happy valentines day.

The ultimate question is, did Paul know LG was his girlfriend?
And/or did any other interested party know LG was Paul's girlfriend?

The reason I ask is because one of his friends described Paul as someone who loved the ladies or something like that. So, did Paul admit to others that he had a specific love interest? Or was this wishful thinking on the part of one of his girlfriends. Or, did one of his other girlfriends not like the Valentine proclamation.

Usually friends and family know when someone has a significant other even if not as formal as an engagement is considered to be. So, why is it so difficult to pin down Paul's relationship status? Did anyone consider that he was cheating on them or had not been honest with them (although that doesn't seem to go with his reputation). Or, was someone more deeply invested in the relationhip as a result of their own desires but their wishes weren't coming true?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Black Squirrel, I think you are the one who submitted Sarala Sarah's CNN interview to eyesforlies. She commented her opinion here.. http://eyesforlies.uservoice.com/fo...a-sarah-cnn-interview-on-the-murder-of-paul-d

Thanks for the link. I just ran across the actual interview a few days ago.

Haven't read eyeforlies account yet but I'm salivating at the thought. Can't wait to see if the expert saw any of the same things I saw.

Still, this is shady territory in remembrance of 'the necklace'. lol!