GUILTY MI - Paul DeWolf, 25, fatally shot in Ann Arbor frat house, 23 July 2013

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Yes, I was thinking that perhaps there was more that she was not telling in the interview, but "Eyes for Lies" did not see any signs of deception in that interview.

Really? I thought I detected something unusual due to the lack of emotion displayed. Not because she didn't cry but I look for variance of tone or inflection that hints to a person's feelings - a kind of release of emotion of some sort. I didn't sense any deep feelings there even though she described a friendship lasting over seven years.

This may be because she knows more or has opinions but had to speak while feeling she was gagged.

 

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Yes there is a forum for her case.

I am also not surprised about Eyes For Lies finding that there was nothing of concern in that video. Poor girl seemed nervous and that's it, not to mention dealing with the tragic and terrifying loss of her friend. Again, I know college students frequently use the phrase pass out, so her slip of the tongue is not surprising to me one bit (although it is ironic.)

Yeah, I had already said this in a prior post awhile back, I saw nothing suspicious in her behavior on the aired interview.

I also saw nothing suspicious about the gay friend of Paul either in the tv interview.

I guess I'm the only one then. But I tend to express my feelings through expression and voice. If you're speaking of something such as a loss or traumatic event - it's difficult to keep such an even inflection imo. I'll have to listen again.

 

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http://www.gvsu.edu/ours/s3/2009-s3-sarah-sarala-155.htm

More about the floorplate region of the spinal cord here.

I know this couldn't possibly have to do with anything, right?
Still, why is spinal cord even coming up elsewhere in this case?
It would be beyond tragic if another brilliant person was involved in something like this due to emotional imbalances. It's just, well, uncanny.

(We don't know if Paul was or wasn't shot in the spinal cord region.)

 

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Black Squirrel, I think you are the one who submitted Sarala Sarah's CNN interview to eyesforlies. She commented her opinion here.. http://eyesforlies.uservoice.com/fo...a-sarah-cnn-interview-on-the-murder-of-paul-d

Oh, I'm so disappointed as I was hoping for a detailed analysis. There's just a note that says no deceit was detected.
But, I had a thought ~ Since SS has not been named a suspect, it may not be advisable/possible legally for eyesforlies to give a public critique of SS's interview.

When she appears on TV, she speaks out about people who are standing trial or those associated with a trial (???). Maybe she faces problems if she states a public opinion regarding just anybody who appears on TV. Therefore, I'm not sure we've heard an honest opinion from eyesforlies. Or, would she state that she's unable to publish an opinion, versus saying no deceit detected, if that were the case? Don't know.

 

[SapphireSteel]

That blog gets it wrong too often to be considered a reliable source imo.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Paul was very fit and active, in fact an extreme sportsman, in my humble opinion.

Anything dangerous, fast, hard hitting.

This could have brought him into direct contact with all sorts of other people - if he was a paintballer (was he for sure?), some of those guys are just as intentionally ruthless as any terrorist. My ex used to do it, and the injuries were something else. A film of it is pretty scary too, at devotee level. You would swear you were watching a war movie.

ETA: this killing has always appeared "professional" to me - by that I mean, one shot.

Most people do not kill on their first shot, unless they have handled guns before, even then the chance of hitting the target in the real world is only about 34% even for trained LE.

A serious dedicated paintballing maniac would explain the "hit" feeling I get about this crime, also the apparently silent, surprise attack. They eat sleep and breathe tactics.

MOO

 

[geojeffrey]

I am not sure if anyone has mentioned this before here, but if you look at the photos on Paul's FB page, 6 rows down on the far left is a photo of his leg when he was shot by a BB gun. This occurred October 22, 2012.

 

[writer7]

I do wonder if the murders of the uni kids are related. I think it's less likely, but I would put the two (or even 3 if you go back years) in the same victim profile.

I can't see much that definitely says they weren't related, other than that the killer would have to have stalked them, yes. That kind of 'serial killer' is usually a postman or maintenance man in the true-crime shows I watch. I put sk in quotes, because those folks got caught after two. I think 2 makes a serial killer, but they won't be on any list of them, I don't think.

The entry situation seems like a problem with Paul still. OTOH, if there is a time or way to get in that's sneaky, a stalking killer could have found it.

[Did any of y'all see the guy on ID last night who came in through the attics above the apartments (to rob, but he did kill)? Creeped me out! The cops thought the victim opened the door for his killer because he was in his boxer shorts and there were no signs of forced entry. Later, insulation was found as evidence that pointed towards how the killer really got in.]

On these cases in MI, I would think an MO of strangulation of a girl and then shooting of a guy doesn't sound like your typical SK. But then we have Alaska. Unfortunately, I think we have started having so many SKs that some of the old profiles no longer work

I don't know. I won't say that I don't think it's the same person. We don't know all the circumstances or evidence. I will say that I've noticed that in some cases that can't be solved easily it is because it was someone with little connection to the victim. Those folks often do kill more than once before it's known what is going on

 

[Katana]

We know one thing... we can be sure about nothing in this case. :dunno:

Many possibilities and very little clues. I think we have narrowed it down to everything is possible. :sigh:

 

[SapphireSteel]

I am not sure if anyone has mentioned this before here, but if you look at the photos on Paul's FB page, 6 rows down on the far left is a photo of his leg when he was shot by a BB gun. This occurred October 22, 2012.

How does anyone get themselves shot by a BB gun?

Is it something that happens when you're strolling down the street? Just another random "I got shot at today" day? Or would it be someone you know taking pot shots at you?

:waitasec:

Either way, why wasn't it reported anywhere? Surely it is illegal to shoot someone? Is it common to get shot by BB guns where Paul lived?

:dunno:

 

[Katana]

I am not sure if anyone has mentioned this before here, but if you look at the photos on Paul's FB page, 6 rows down on the far left is a photo of his leg when he was shot by a BB gun. This occurred October 22, 2012.

I noticed that, too. I thought it was odd that PD blew it off as some people being immature. Drive-by shooting a person that is out running is serious even if it's a bb gun. PD also says a paint gun would have been better as in left a better injury, I suppose.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I do wonder if the murders of the uni kids are related. I think it's less likely, but I would put the two (or even 3 if you go back years) in the same victim profile.

I can't see much that definitely says they weren't related, other than that the killer would have to have stalked them, yes. That kind of 'serial killer' is usually a postman or maintenance man in the true-crime shows I watch. I put sk in quotes, because those folks got caught after two. I think 2 makes a serial killer, but they won't be on any list of them, I don't think.

The entry situation seems like a problem with Paul still. OTOH, if there is a time or way to get in that's sneaky, a stalking killer could have found it.

[Did any of y'all see the guy on ID last night who came in through the attics above the apartments (to rob, but he did kill)? Creeped me out! The cops thought the victim opened the door for his killer because he was in his boxer shorts and there were no signs of forced entry. Later, insulation was found as evidence that pointed towards how the killer really got in.]

On these cases in MI, I would think an MO of strangulation of a girl and then shooting of a guy doesn't sound like your typical SK. But then we have Alaska. Unfortunately, I think we have started having so many SKs that some of the old profiles no longer work

I don't know. I won't say that I don't think it's the same person. We don't know all the circumstances or evidence. I will say that I've noticed that in some cases that can't be solved easily it is because it was someone with little connection to the victim. Those folks often do kill more than once before it's known what is going on

ITA.

:goodpost:

:scared:

 

[black_squirrel]

I noticed that, too. I thought it was odd that PD blew it off as some people being immature. Drive-by shooting a person that is out running is serious even if it's a bb gun. PD also says a paint gun would have been better as in left a better injury, I suppose.

I saw this but apperently it happens frequently that some practical jokers shoot with BB guns at people from a car.
Especially on college campusses. Runners are particularly vulnurable.

 

[missgulfsouth]

I do wonder if the murders of the uni kids are related. I think it's less likely, but I would put the two (or even 3 if you go back years) in the same victim profile.

I can't see much that definitely says they weren't related, other than that the killer would have to have stalked them, yes. That kind of 'serial killer' is usually a postman or maintenance man in the true-crime shows I watch. I put sk in quotes, because those folks got caught after two. I think 2 makes a serial killer, but they won't be on any list of them, I don't think.

The entry situation seems like a problem with Paul still. OTOH, if there is a time or way to get in that's sneaky, a stalking killer could have found it.

[Did any of y'all see the guy on ID last night who came in through the attics above the apartments (to rob, but he did kill)? Creeped me out! The cops thought the victim opened the door for his killer because he was in his boxer shorts and there were no signs of forced entry. Later, insulation was found as evidence that pointed towards how the killer really got in.]

On these cases in MI, I would think an MO of strangulation of a girl and then shooting of a guy doesn't sound like your typical SK. But then we have Alaska. Unfortunately, I think we have started having so many SKs that some of the old profiles no longer work

I don't know. I won't say that I don't think it's the same person. We don't know all the circumstances or evidence. I will say that I've noticed that in some cases that can't be solved easily it is because it was someone with little connection to the victim. Those folks often do kill more than once before it's known what is going on

Your attic access SK got me thinking about the Villisca Axe murders. Ever since hearing about that case we make sure our attic is locked and bolted!

 

[jjenny]

I saw this but apperently it happens frequently that some practical jokers shoot with BB guns at people from a car.
Especially on college campusses. Runners are particularly vulnurable.

Those "jokers" should be charged with assaults.

 

[jjenny]

I am not sure if anyone has mentioned this before here, but if you look at the photos on Paul's FB page, 6 rows down on the far left is a photo of his leg when he was shot by a BB gun. This occurred October 22, 2012.

Do we know who shot him?

 

[SapphireSteel]

I saw this but apperently it happens frequently that some practical jokers shoot with BB guns at people from a car.
Especially on college campusses. Runners are particularly vulnurable.

Another oddity. To someone from outside the US that is.

:twocents:

I find it statistically incredibly unlikely to be shot twice, unrelated, in a couple of months, unless you're in a war zone. :scared:

Why aren't these "pranks" treated like an assault with a deadly weapon? Because that's what they are. :dunno:

 

[black_squirrel]

Those "jokers" should be charged with assaults.

They probably would be if the police catches them. I believe that there have been "jokers" which
have been prosecuted.

 

[Katana]

It's possible that someone was jealous of Paul's success. He was able to obtain an automatic officer status in the air force through the program he was accepted in. Maybe someone felt he received a ranking without earning it and needed to prove their superiority.

 

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Another oddity. To someone from outside the US that is.

:twocents:

I find it statistically incredibly unlikely to be shot twice, unrelated, in a couple of months, unless you're in a war zone. :scared:

Why aren't these "pranks" treated like an assault with a deadly weapon? Because that's what they are. :dunno:

I'm in the US and never heard of random bb gun shootings in good neighborhoods occurring - that's considered an assault.

Some woman aimed a bb gun at two police officers and was shot dead on the spot. You can't openly aim a gun at anybody for sport or because you think it's funny. The casual attitude is strange to me too.