GUILTY MI - Robert Cipriano, 52, beaten to death, Farmington Hills, 16 April 2012

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Easton bat

Quest bat

 

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States witness, Michael Flatt, Detective with Farmington Hills

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McCarthy just wanted to review a document. No further questions.
by Gina Damron 9:54 AM

McCarthy is cross examining the witness.
by Gina Damron 9:52 AM

Flatt: From 11 Mile and Orchard Lake, near the Cipriano home, to Orchard Lake and Grand River, where the Valero is, is about a six minute drive. From there, it was a 19-18 minute drive then to the Mobil. It was about 18 minutes from the Keego Harbor to the Cipriano house.
by Gina Damron 9:52 AM

Images from a gas station are now being shown.
by Gina Damron 9:50 AM

Flatt: The time on the receipt was 37 minutes behind the actual time.
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Flatt: He purchased a pack of gum to get a receipt with a time stamp.
by Gina Damron 9:46 AM

Flatt: He went to the Valero station to get at time stamp on the register's time. The transaction times were not the same as DFCU's records.
by Gina Damron 9:45 AM

At 3:27 a.m. April 16, Cipriano texted the girl: "Let me in the side door."
by Gina Damron 9:44 AM

That message was at 2:09 a.m. April 16.
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A message to the girl says Zinderman had to stay at her place "till we get back."
by Gina Damron 9:43 AM

Cipriano texted another friend at 1:18 a.m. April 16, 2012 to wake up the girl because they were at the house.
by Gina Damron 9:44 AM

Spice is a synthetic marijuana.
by Gina Damron 9:42 AM

At 11:18 p.m. on April 15, a text from Cipriano's phone to the girl back said he was partying.
At 11:22 p.m., the girl texted back a question mark.
"We got enough spice to last us forever," a text back from Cipriano's phone said at 11:29 p.m.
by Gina Damron 9:44 AM

The teenage girl texted Cipriano after 11 p.m. on April 15, 2012, saying she had to sneak him into the house and to not park on the street.
by Gina Damron 9:45 AM

Young texted the Cipriano phone at 10:49 p.m. on Sunday, April 15: "Call me."
by Gina Damron 9:39 AM

An image shows a text from the teenage girl, who we have not identified because she is a minor. the text says: "Hey are you guys still comng up heree?"
by Gina Damron 9:39 AM

Another image shows a number in the phone for a teenage girl, who lives in Keego Harbor. Cipriano went to the Keego Harbor house after the attack.
by Gina Damron 9:38 AM

A picture is being shown of a picture of Young's numbe rin the phone. In the phone the name says "Rodriquez." Testimony has been given that Young went by the name Roderick.
by Gina Damron 9:37 AM

Flatt: Police went through the phone and took photograph. One is of the phone directory.
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Flatt: Police learned it belonged to a female friend of Tucker Cipriano.
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Flatt is testifying about a cell phone taken from Tucker Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 9:35 AM

Farmington Hills Det. Michael Flatt is testifying.
by Gina Damron 9:34 AM

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Interesting during the recess, remember the defendant doodling

The female was handed this

She tears off a portion of paper
Writes something on piece of paper

After being handed a piece of paper from the female,
the male finished writing something on piece of paper
then hands the paper to the female

She gets up from seat with pieces of paper

Returns to seat, no longer has pieces of paper

I wonder how the judge feels about the passing of notes in her courtroom?!?

 

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Skrzynski just told the jury that both sides stipulate that Isabella Cipriano would testify that she brought out the Quest bat to protect her mother and brother.
by Gina Damron 10:14 AM


Glad to hear both sides stipulated so she wouldn't have to testify.

 

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States witness, Ruben Ortiz-Reyes, Deputy Forensic Pathologist with the Oakland County Medical Examiner's Office

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No questions from McCarthy. Ortiz-Reyes is excused.
by Gina Damron 10:53 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: The manner of death is homicide.
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Ortiz-Reyes: Head wounds bleed a lot.
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Ortiz-Reyes: The cause of death is multiple blunt force head trauma.
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Ortiz-Reyes: There is also a laceration on the front of the left leg. He said there is no explanation for how that injury occurred.
by Gina Damron 10:48 AM

An image of the back of Robert Cipriano's left hand shows scratches. He is wearing his wedding band.
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Ortiz-Reyes: Be believes that, more than likely, the hand was struck while defending himself.
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Ortiz-Reyes: Robert Cipriano had an abrasion on the left palm of his hand and there was a fracture at the base of the thumb. It is a "defense wound."
by Gina Damron 10:45 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: Robert Cipriano aspirated blood into the lungs.
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Ortiz-Reyes: Robert Cipriano also had small abrasions on his back.
by Gina Damron 10:41 AM

The injuries, he said, would not cause instant death.
by Gina Damron 10:39 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: The injuries are consistent with Robert Cipriano being beaten with a baseball bat.
by Gina Damron 10:39 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: Robert Cipriano's brain had a subdural hemorrhage.
by Gina Damron 10:37 AM

Young is sitting with his hands clasped.
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The injuries, Ortiz-Reyes testified, would require "a lot of force."
by Gina Damron 10:36 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: There is also a large abrasion on his right cheek and there are orbital bruises.
by Gina Damron 10:35 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: There are other lacerations on the right side of Cipriano's skull and on his forehead that represent an impact.
by Gina Damron 10:34 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: There are fractures to Cipriano's skull.
by Gina Damron 10:32 AM

An image of the left side of Robert Cipriano's head is being shown. Ortiz-Reyes testified that there are lacerations to Cipriano's ear. Here was fragmentation of the bone, Ortiz-Reyes said.
by Gina Damron 10:31 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: Can cause aspirating blood, which would cause a person to breath in thier own blood.
by Gina Damron 10:30 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: "There is damage to the brain." These kinds of injuries produce bleeding and swelling to the brain.
by Gina Damron 10:30 AM

Robert Cipriano's relatives are turning their eyes away, looking down.
by Gina Damron 10:28 AM

Robert Cipriano's autopsy photos are being shown. The first shows severe injuries to his head.
by Gina Damron 10:28 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: There was blood on Robert Cipriano's head, face and other areas of his body.
by Gina Damron 10:26 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: The first thing he saw was multiple injuries to his head. His body had scratches, including his left hand.
by Gina Damron 10:23 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: When doing an autopsy, he also looks at police reports and physical evidence. There were multiple pictures and he looked at bats involved in the case.
by Gina Damron 10:22 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: An autopsy was performed on Robert Cipriano. Begins with an external examination.
by Gina Damron 10:21 AM

Ortiz-Reyes: He did an examination of Robert Cipriano's body.
by Gina Damron 10:17 AM

Ruben Ortiz-Reyes is testifying. He is a deputy forensic pathologist with the Oakland CountyMedical Examiner's Office.
by Gina Damron 10:21 AM

Now we are on to testimony from an official with the medical examiner's office.
by Gina Damron 10:15 AM

 

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The people rest, Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 10:53 AM

 

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After the state rested, the judge excused the jury.
The defendant was then sworn in and addressed the court



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Young will not testify.
by Gina Damron 10:56 AM

"No one has influenced me" to make that decision, Young said.
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Young said he has come to a decision.
"My decision is that I will exercise my right to remain silent. I believe that will be in my best legal interest."
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If he testifies, McCarthy said, he would be cross examined by the prosecutors. Young said he understands.
by Gina Damron 10:56 AM

McCarthy asked Young about their discussions about his right to testify.
"We talked about that in extreme detail," Young said.
by Gina Damron 10:55 AM

McCarthy is asking him questions.
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Young is being sworn in and is speaking.
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Defense rests

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We are on a break and will return at 2 p.m for closing arguments.
by Gina Damron 10:59 AM

McCarthy said that the defense rests.
by Gina Damron 10:59 AM

The jury is being brought back into the room. They were removed before Young spoke to address the court and say he would not testify. He did not take the witness stand. He was sworn in and stood at the defense table with his attorney.
by Gina Damron 10:58 AM

 

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Be back this afternoon.
by Gina Damron 11:18 AM

I'm going to take a break for the blog for about an hour or so. Go to freep.com for an updated story. Thanks, everyone, for reading.
by Gina Damron 11:17 AM

She said Young turned to drugs after a bad break up. Spaw said she broke up with young before the attack.
by Gina Damron 11:15 AM

I just spoke with his ex-girlfriend, Kristen Spaw. Young drew her a photo of a rose with a message for her and their friend, Brandon Ware, who was also here. It reads: "Kristen, It is good to see you after so long. Brandon too ... Thank you for being here for me. Hope you like the drawing, love you ... P.S. Please don't crym you'll make me cry."
by Gina Damron 11:14 AM

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For those who followed the Arias trial, this defendant can draw much better then Arias IMO.

 

[Jewels53]

Thanks Tiger I didn't catch all of that.

Do you think they have enough to convict him?

 

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Thanks Tiger I didn't catch all of that.

Do you think they have enough to convict him?

Yes, absolutely enough evidence, I suspect the jury will come back guilty on all counts before the end of the day tomorrow.

ETA: I say tomorrow only because the judge said she would charge the jury tomorrow morning.

 

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http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2013/06/27/news/local_news/doc51cc5a5e4db5a209750214.txt

Those arguments will begin at 2 p.m. in the case, after which jurors will have to decide whether Young is guilty of first-degree murder, felony murder, armed robbery and/or two counts of assault with intent to murder.

more at link...

I was shocked that the DT did not offer even one witness to speak in MY's defense. After the antics in the CA trial and JA trial, I expected the DT to pull out all the stops.

Any guesses how the jury will decide on each verdict?

I think 'guilty' on all counts.

 

[Jewels53]

I am new to trial watching, I watched the TA trial and then the Brett Seacat trial. I am watching the Levi Chavez trial which in my opinion is a joke.

So why would you go to trial if you had no defense? Wouldn't you want to plead like Tucker did?

 

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I am new to trial watching, I watched the TA trial and then the Brett Seacat trial. I am watching the Levi Chavez trial which in my opinion is a joke.

So why would you go to trial if you had no defense? Wouldn't you want to plead like Tucker did?

That's exactly what I was thinking. Did the defense attorney not know what kind of evidence they had against Young? If this was a court appointed attorney, does he get paid more for going to trial? I apologize if that is a stupid question but I really don't know.

 

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That's exactly what I was thinking. Did the defense attorney not know what kind of evidence they had against Young? If this was a court appointed attorney, does he get paid more for going to trial? I apologize if that is a stupid question but I really don't know.

I don't know the answer to that question, and I don't think it is a stupid one either. It makes no since to me why the lawyer wouldn't put up a defense unless there is none. Like I said I am new to all of this trial stuff and haven't seen one like this yet.

Mr. Young in my opinion has hung himself by not pleading out.

I guess it depends on what his attorney says in closing.

I will have to leave before then.

 

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STATES CLOSING ARGUMENT

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Skrzynski: The evidence shows a story. It shows Young guilty of premeditated murder, felony murder, assault with intent to murder for Rose and Salvatore and of armed robbery.
by Gina Damron 3:24 PM

Skrzynski: A neighbor testified that he was coming home at about 2:30 a.m. He saw two men. When he went past, he saw one head off to the right. Off to the right is the Cipriano house. "They're about to change the lives of these people forever."
by Gina Damron 3:22 PM

Skrzynski: Zinderman testified that Young and Cipriano took off.
by Gina Damron 3:20 PM

Skrzynski: Zinderman testified that they went back up to Keego Harbor. They park in an apartment building lot. Young and Cipriano told their friend at the house that they were leaving to get some money. She agreed to let Zinderman stay.
by Gina Damron 3:20 PM

Skrzynski: They go back into the truck and talk again about killing the Cipriano family. Zinderman told them that if they want to mess up their lives, to leave him out of it.
by Gina Damron 3:18 PM

Skrzynski: Video shows Young and Cipriano inside of the gas station.
by Gina Damron 3:17 PM

Skrzynski: Zinderman said they got back in the truck and headed out for a gas station.
by Gina Damron 3:16 PM

Skrzynski: Tucker Cipriano came out with a Visa gift card. They thought a sticky note said there was $265 on it. Turns out it was $2.65.
by Gina Damron 3:15 PM

Images are being projected to the right of Young on a screen, but he is not looking at htem. He has maintained a pretty constant stare in the direction of the jurors.
Skrzynski: Zinderman said they went back to the house and he helped Cipriano break in again. Young texted Tucker Cipriano, asking if they were OK and that, on the way back from the house, text if something was wrong and he would pick them up.
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Skrzynski: When Young and Cipriano start deciding who would kill who and Young says he'll kill Isabella, Tucker changes the plan. Zinderman testified Tucker loves his sister. Tucker decided he wanted to go back again to get money.
by Gina Damron 3:14 PM

Skrzynski: Several transactions at a gas station with Robert Cipriano's check card are denied because of suspected fraud, a DFCU official testified.
by Gina Damron 3:11 PM

Skrzynski is going over text messages. Tucker Cipriano texted a friend in Keego Harbor that they bought Spice (the synthetic marijuana).
by Gina Damron 3:10 PM

Sorry, DO, just saw your comment. DetroitObserver is referring to Young and Cipriano wanting to steal property and head for Mexico or TN, according to testimony given.
by Gina Damron 3:10 PM

Skrzynski is standing hear the jurors.
by Gina Damron 3:09 PM

Young is looking in the direction of the jury. He is sitting with his hands clasped, twiddling his thumbs a bit.
by Gina Damron 3:08 PM

Skrzynski: Tucker Cipriano stole a check card.
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Skrzynski: Zinderman testified that he and Tucker Cipriano went to the home and Zinderman helped him break into the garage. Young stayed in the truck. He texted Tucker Cipriano: "Call me."
by Gina Damron 3:06 PM

Skrzynski: On April 15, 2012, they set out to break into the home to get money to buy a synthetic marijuana.
by Gina Damron 3:04 PM

Skrzynski: Zinderman testified that two weeks before, Young and Cipriano talked about murdering a family and stealing from them.
by Gina Damron 3:03 PM

Skrzynski: They talked about Young murdering the parents and Isabella and Cipriano his brothers.
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Skrzynski: Zinderman testified that he, Young and Cipriano were sitting at a gas pump. Young and Cipriano talked about killing the Cipriano family, looting the house and heading to Mexico or Tennessee.
by Gina Damron 3:02 PM

Skrzynski said this indicates both Cipriano and Young had knives, which he said shows an intent to kill and, taking it to a house they intended to rob, shows premeditation.
by Gina Damron 3:00 PM

Skrzynski: Eventually that truck is searched and a knife is found. A knife was also found at the home.
by Gina Damron 3:00 PM

Skrzynski: Ian Zinderman testified that after Tucker Cipriano came back to a house in Keego Harbor, Cipriano told him that he wanted him to get rid of the truck. Officers were already doing surveillance on the truck. Zinderman and a teen girl were arrested at the truck.
by Gina Damron 2:59 PM

During his closing argument, Skrzynski is continuing to go back over the testimony and evidence presented during the trial.
by Gina Damron 2:58 PM

Skrzynski: They intended to kill Salvatore Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:55 PM

Skrzynski: Officers testified that, when they responded to the home, they looked through a window and saw Young run by, knock Isabella Cipriano down, and head upstairs.
by Gina Damron 2:53 PM

Skrzynski: Young and Salvatore's DNA was on bloody gloves, found upstairs in the home.
by Gina Damron 2:53 PM

Skrzynski: Salvatore's blood was on Young's hands.
by Gina Damron 2:51 PM

Skrzynski: The DNA expert found Salvatore's blood on the Easton bat.
by Gina Damron 2:50 PM

Skrzynski: Was there intent to kill? "Quite obviously."
by Gina Damron 2:50 PM

"He was on death's door," Skrzynski said of Salvatore.
by Gina Damron 2:49 PM

Skrzynski: Now to Salvatore Cipriano. The doctore testified Salvatore suffered multiple skull fractures. "He was beaten up within an inch of his life."
by Gina Damron 2:49 PM

Skrzynski: In discussions before the attack, according to testimony given, Young was to kill the parents and Tucker Cipriano his brothers.
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Skrzynski: Rose "was beaten with both bats."
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Skrzynski: The DNA expert also looked at blood found on the Quest bat. Rose's blood was found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:46 PM

Skrzynski: The DNA expert testified that Rose's DNA was also on the handle of the Easton bat. The DNA expert also said Rose's blood was on Young's sweatshirt.
by Gina Damron 2:45 PM

Skrzynski: Salvatore was already breathing in his own blood when police arrived at the house.
by Gina Damron 2:43 PM

Skrzynski: The ER doctor said her injuries were life threatening.
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Skrzynski: "That's the evidence."
by Gina Damron 2:43 PM

Skrzynski: Young admitted to a detective that he hit Rose Cipriano one or two times in the head with a bad. An ER doctor at Botsford Hospital said Rose had multiple skull fractures.
by Gina Damron 2:42 PM

Now Skrzynski is going to talk about what happened to Rose Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:41 PM

"The only reason why they stopped was because they were interrupted," Skrzynski said. Tanner called police, who responded within minutes, Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 2:41 PM

Skrzynski: Now onto the elements of first-degree felony murder. Young caused Cipriano's death. He had an intent to kill, given the number and severity of blows, and while he was committing or attempting to commit a robbery. He admitted that to a detective. "He committed first-degree felony murder."
by Gina Damron 2:41 PM

Skrzynski: As to premeditated, there was talk before the attack about planning.
by Gina Damron 2:39 PM

Skrzynski: Young caused Robert Cipriano's death, he had the intent to kill, there are a number of blows to his head. "What's his intent? Obviously his intent is to kill."
by Gina Damron 2:39 PM

Now Skrzynski is talking about Robert Cipriano's murder and the elements.
by Gina Damron 2:37 PM

Skrzynski: Young talked to a detective at the hospital. Young said they went to steal money and personal belongings.
by Gina Damron 2:37 PM

Skrzynski: "It's Mitchell Young whose the killer. And we know that from the evidence."
by Gina Damron 2:37 PM

Skrzynski: All that fits together. The conclusion: "Defendant Young is beating Bob Cipriano with the bat. Not only that, he was aiding and abetting."
by Gina Damron 2:36 PM

Skrzynski: When Robert Cipriano's body is found, it's in a position with his right arm twisted around his back. "That looks like someone held Bob from behind," he said. "There's good reason to believe" that person is Tucker Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:36 PM

Skrzynski: What that means is that Young was standing within inches of the source of the blood, which was Robert Cipriano's head. The blood also went up in the inseam of Young's pants, meaning it would have been standing above the source.
by Gina Damron 2:35 PM

Skrzynski: The blood spatter expert also looked at Young's pants. She compared to the same pattern made on the cabinet. It was the same: Impact spatter.
by Gina Damron 2:34 PM

Skrzynski: The cast off and impact spatter are consistent with the attack with a baseball bat.
by Gina Damron 2:34 PM

Skrzynski: The blood spatter expert also testified that there was cast off spatter on the ceiling above Robert Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:33 PM

Skrzynski: It's known that close to Bob's head, when he was lying there in the kitchen, there was blood spatter on the cabinet. A blood spatter expert testified that it was impact spatter, which means it was close to the object when it was being struck.
by Gina Damron 2:32 PM

Skrzynski: When the expert analyzed the blood on the pants, she found that Robert Cipriano's blood was on Young's pants.
by Gina Damron 2:31 PM

Skrzynski: The DNA expert further testified that she looked at Young's clothing, including his blood-stained pants.
by Gina Damron 2:30 PM

Skrzynski: The DNA expert also found that there was DNA on the handle of the Easton bat. Young could not be excluded as a donor.
by Gina Damron 2:29 PM

"That Easton bat is the murder weapon," Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 2:29 PM

Salvatore Xipriano's blood was found on the BB gun, Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 2:29 PM

There is every reason to believe, Skrzynski said, that the BB gun came from an empty gun case found upstairs.
by Gina Damron 2:28 PM

Robert Cipriano's DNA was also found on the BB gun, which was found lying near his body in the kitchen, Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 2:27 PM

Skrzynski is also talking about the Quest softball bat, which Isabella used to try to protect her family. That would have been her testimony, which both side stipulated to earlier.
by Gina Damron 2:27 PM

The bats, Skrzynski said, were examined by a DNA analysis expert. Robert Cipriano's blood was on the Easton bat.
by Gina Damron 2:26 PM

Skrzynski is recalling testimony from a law enforcement official, who found two bats on the landing leading downstairs.
by Gina Damron 2:25 PM

He is also showing photographs of the witnesses who testified while explaining their testimony.
by Gina Damron 2:24 PM

Skrzynski is using a screen to project images when talking with the jury. He is showing pictures of Robert Cipriano during his autopsy. "He drown in his own blood," Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 2:24 PM

"They are aiding and abetting each other," Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 2:23 PM

Skrzynski: He is recalling the 911 call from Tanner Cipriano, who said his brother and his friend were beating his family with bats.
by Gina Damron 2:23 PM

Skrzynski: Armed robbery, force or violence against the victim; in the course of a larceny; the victim was present; had to use an object causing death or serious injury; and there had to be an aggravated assault or serious injury.
by Gina Damron 2:21 PM

Skrzynski: Assault with intent to murder is trying to physically injury; had the ability to injury; and intended to kill. Also, the jury will be given a lesser charge to consider of assault with intent to do great bodily harm.
by Gina Damron 2:20 PM

Skrzynski: The lesser charge would be second-degree murder, that the defendant caused the death and either had the intent to kill or caused great bodily harm or created a high risk of death or great bodily harm.
by Gina Damron 2:19 PM

Skrzynski: For larceny, stealing someone's proprety, without consent. Can simply be an attempt.
by Gina Damron 2:18 PM

Skrzynski: For robbery, force or violence used against the victim; done in the course of a larceny; and the victim has to be present.
by Gina Damron 2:17 PM

Skrzynski: First-degree felony murder elements a little different. He has to have caused the death; he can either indend to kill or intend to cause great bodily harm or create a high risk of death or great bodily harm; and do while committing or attempting to commit a robbery and/or larceny.
by Gina Damron 2:16 PM

Skrzynski: First degree premedited murder. First element is that defendant caused the death and intended to kill. That intent to kill has to be formed before action is committed and deliberated.
by Gina Damron 2:15 PM

Skrzynski explaining charges.
by Gina Damron 2:14 PM

Assistant Prosecutor John Skrzynski is giving his closing argument.
by Gina Damron 2:11 PM

Judge Shalina Kumar has taken the bench.
by Gina Damron 2:08 PM

Mitchell Young was just brought out. Closing statements should begin shortly.
by Gina Damron 2:05 PM

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[TigerBalm]

I was really impressed with Assistant Prosecutor John Skrzynski's closing argument.

I really liked how he used the slide show to put all the evidence together.

 

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If you haven't read this before .. now is a good time while the defense attorney tries to put all the blame on Tucker and Zinderman.
His client isn't the choirboy he wants us to believe.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/blob/view/-/11272098/data/1/-/elqhbyz/-/Mitchell-Young-Westalnd-PD-police-report.pdf