MI MI - Tanner Lucas, Alexander William, & Andrew Ryan Skelton, Morenci, 26 Nov 2010 #3

[darlin gal]

Crews move into recovery mode in search for young brothers

Authorities have said their search for the boys has evolved from a rescue to a recovery effort. Searches by an army of volunteers and crews continues in southern Michigan and Williams County, Ohio.
According to sources, Morenci Police say John Skelton has admitted to FBI profilers that he killed his sons; however, authorities have decided to hold him on the kidnapping charges at this time.

An extradition hearing will be held as early as Wednesday in Lucas County Common Pleas Court so that Skelton can be moved back up to Michigan.


http://www.toledoonthemove.com/news/story.aspx?id=548319

 

[darlin gal]

The sister of a 39-year-old Lenawee County man facing parental kidnapping charges in connection with an ongoing search for his three missing sons says she doesn't think authorities are giving her brother a fair shake.
Forty-year-old Linda Ford of Jacksonville, Fla., tells the Detroit Free Press she has spoken twice with John Skelton since his failed suicide attempt Friday. Skelton was arrested Tuesday. The boys were last seen on Thanksgiving.
Ford said authorities are trying to convince Skelton that a woman he claimed to have given the children to is an alter ego.
Ford said Skelton was depressed after being fired. She plans to stand by him.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/01/1951313/sister-dad-of-missing-boys-not.html#ixzz16rqV497r​

 

[sherryk]

possible nooses(sp) more than one... ohhhh looks like he may have ended it there for them and disposed of the bodies... but yet he couldnt complete his own hanging?

The wild goose chase he is sending them on is a disgrace to the kids. Let their bodies be laid to rest.. unless he is even trying to keep them from TS in the very end after their death.

Joann Taylor and Zanny the nanny, the wild goose chase in anthony's case of where she was working and Zanny's location.

Come on MAN up. Do the right thing for once.. give the location of the boys. Snow will be setting in soon which will make recovery much harder.. maybe that is what he is waitng for.. to hender the findings and cover his tracks to make it impossible to find.

If he hund those little boys and didnt hang himself... what a monster, coward, evil person. One by one they were probally brought into their death chamber.. he claims he cried when they were born.. i see no tears over their death..

I am gonna check the news less often today. I cant handle much more of this. This world is full of evil persons who use excuses and defense that the defense attorney's know is a crock.

I do have a question, a legal one. If a person admit to attorney they killed someone does the attorney and client still have the confidental clause.. or is the attorney required to report a known crime did exist? If they know they killed someone and defend them would it not be full of lies and trickery to convince a jury of somthing that just isnt true?

I know that we are impatient when it comes to needing swift justice for the children, however I have to trust LE and let them get all their facts so they can nail this quy to the wall. I hope that the crime was not commited in the home.. MI no death penalty. Ohio yes death penalty.

However to suffer the rest of life in prison no parole.. child killers have a bad name in prison maybe the suffering for the rest of his pathetic life will haunt his mind and tear at his soul until he wishes that he was dead..

I am gonna tune out on news today. I am going to get updates later in the day. The emotional toll this is taking on me is just too much for me and I suspect all of us.

Why the children.. innocence of a child.. why? it is so heartbreaking. I am sad but I am also furious that the sister of JS will defend him as she is...she needs a mental check herself !

 

[elepher50]

Now, they believe his suicide attempt may be a fake, as well.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/ne...n-skelton-into-custody-20101130-wpms_10865203

JS is a lie unto himself. JS stop the lying and the BS and tell LE where the boys are.

 

[elepher50]

possible nooses(sp) more than one... ohhhh looks like he may have ended it there for them and disposed of the bodies... but yet he couldnt complete his own hanging?


Why the children.. innocence of a child.. why? it is so heartbreaking. I am sad but I am also furious that the sister of JS will defend him as she is...she needs a mental check herself !

RSBM: ((Hugs)) .. agreed it is too much to bear.

eleph

 

[Cubby]

Now, they believe his suicide attempt may be a fake, as well.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/ne...n-skelton-into-custody-20101130-wpms_10865203

Of course it is fake. How many days ago did we determine this? IF he was actually despondant when he called/reached out to the friend who took him to the hospital - he would have reached out for help for the boys regardless of whether or not it was too late for them at the time he made the call.

Despondant people who call and ask for help do not ask for partial help. They lay it all out in despairing greif and he would have been asking for help for both himself AND the boys.

Also, if he was of danger to himself he would not have been released from the hospital. No way no how, and it was pretty quickly the medical professionals released him. That tells me he was never suicidal.

 

[Cubby]

The sister of a 39-year-old Lenawee County man facing parental kidnapping charges in connection with an ongoing search for his three missing sons says she doesn't think authorities are giving her brother a fair shake.​

Forty-year-old Linda Ford of Jacksonville, Fla., tells the Detroit Free Press she has spoken twice with John Skelton since his failed suicide attempt Friday. Skelton was arrested Tuesday. The boys were last seen on Thanksgiving.
Ford said authorities are trying to convince Skelton that a woman he claimed to have given the children to is an alter ego.
Ford said Skelton was depressed after being fired. She plans to stand by him.​

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/01/1951313/sister-dad-of-missing-boys-not.html#ixzz16rqV497r​

BBM. He couldn't fool the medical professionals so now he is trying to fool his sister/family. I'd bet money no professional told Skelton (I almost typed Skelter -skery) he had any alter ego. They would not have released him from the hospital if he truly had alter ego's. I'm sure he made that up to gain sympathy from his sister and family. Same way he made up the suicide story. Now he is grasping at the last people who will believe him, his family. :furious:

 

[not_my_kids]

Fire officials and volunteers were expected to head out again this morning to continue looking for the three boys: Andrew Skelton, 9; Alexander Skelton, 7, and Tanner Skelton, 5. Some residents are planning to decorate a park in Morenci with Christmas lights and dedicate it to the Skelton boys...
On Tuesday, Skelton was taken to the Lucas County Corrections Center in Toledo after his arrest on three counts of parental kidnapping in the disappearance last week of his three sons, Andrew, 9; Alexander, 7, and Tanner Skelton, 5. An extradition hearing could happen as early as today to return him to Michigan for arraignment on the charges...
http://www.livingstondaily.com/arti...pe+fades+for+finding+missing+Skelton+brothers

 

[Nandee63]

I have a situation in my life that is by no means as dire as some of these families, however I will share it. I Got Divorce 3 years ago. After 2 years of fighting it and spending every spare dime I had I to fight my ex for what i had brought to the marriage, I lost EVERYTHING. At the time i had a great job, over 200k/ yr. I got laid off 2 years ago and and live 1600 miles from my family. To add fuel to the flames i got pregnant (irresponsibility on my part) I lived on unemployment by myself with this baby for months, no child support, through nights where I did not think I could bear the isolation or loneliness. The complete lack of even a car to look for a job ruined my self respect and self worth.

I had nothing but the love of my remote family. And I will not lie there were nights where I though of dropping my then 4 month off with her father and jumping off a bridge. But in spite of all of that I chose to live for my daughter, because that is what my life is now. I cried everyday because i was afraid I wouldn't be able to care for her. I have never been so afraid in my life, and I had been in a very bad physically abusive relationship, yet not being able to care for my daughter scares me more than even that.

So someone explain to me how that works?? Biology? Chemistry? Why did I choose to fight for my daughter, yet these "people" take their childrens life.

Edited for typos

Your post made me cry...you, my dear, should be commended. You have come through some extraordinarily difficult circumstances in your life. However, you placed your precious daughter above everything. I think this is what "real" parents do. These that just "off" their kids, are self-serving individuals who do not regard anyone's thoughts or feelings but their own. I do think it's a chemical/biological/societal problem. Many of these people have a high sense of entitlement. They think they are owed the sun, moon and stars. What has their contribution to society been? I'm guessing absolutely nothing worthwhile. JMO!

 

[Java]

Ford said authorities are trying to convince Skelton that a woman he claimed to have given the children to is an alter ego.
Ford said Skelton was depressed after being fired. She plans to stand by him.
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Oh Pleezzzz!
If JS was in contact with this imaginary woman or anyone else, he would know how to contact them. After all he supposedly contacted them to come and get the boy’s right??
Is LF as crazy as he is?

JS is a liar, and a coward. He won’t even tell LE where to recover the boy’s.
Amoeba is a higher life form than JS.
I don’t buy any of his stories, none of them.

 

[raysgirl1126]

I can't stop praying that these boys are safe and sound somewhere and this is all some bogus story made up by Skelton to get these boys away from their mother. I know it's a total far fetched idea, but I hope it's true! I know what the odds are, I know it's almost impossible, but I still have faith!

 

[CarrieBean]

I have a situation in my life that is by no means as dire as some of these families, however I will share it. I Got Divorce 3 years ago. After 2 years of fighting it and spending every spare dime I had I to fight my ex for what i had brought to the marriage, I lost EVERYTHING. At the time i had a great job, over 200k/ yr. I got laid off 2 years ago and and live 1600 miles from my family. To add fuel to the flames i got pregnant (irresponsibility on my part) I lived on unemployment by myself with this baby for months, no child support, through nights where I did not think I could bear the isolation or loneliness. The complete lack of even a car to look for a job ruined my self respect and self worth.

I had nothing but the love of my remote family. And I will not lie there were nights where I though of dropping my then 4 month off with her father and jumping off a bridge. But in spite of all of that I chose to live for my daughter, because that is what my life is now. I cried everyday because i was afraid I wouldn't be able to care for her. I have never been so afraid in my life, and I had been in a very bad physically abusive relationship, yet not being able to care for my daughter scares me more than even that.

So someone explain to me how that works?? Biology? Chemistry? Why did I choose to fight for my daughter, yet these "people" take their childrens life.

Edited for typos

I can relate to raising kids with next to nothing, and absolutely no help...to the point where I felt like I was seriously going to lose it. Brief thoughts of suicide and running away from it all crossed my mind, but nothing serious ('cause then there would have been nobody left to care for my kids). Not once did killing my kids cross my mind. Strange how each brain works so differently.

I have to agree that prevention is the key. Otherwise, what? We just sit around waiting for children to die so we can 'throw away the key'?

 

[yosande]

A quick check of the Yahoo yellow pages didn't turn up a listing for Joann's Truck Stop in Holiday City. I guess that would have been too easy.:waitasec:

Well, I know it's silly but, it reminded me of the show "home improvement" in that the mom's name was Jill Taylor, and they had a son named "Mark" and they lived in Michigan. It means nothing, it's just what came to my mind is all.
One episode was when they got lost in Ohio while going to attend a wedding, but I can't remember where.

ok, my two cents worth, and worth nothing more....

 

[CarrieBean]

Investigators tracked the empty dumpsters to the Williams Landfill in Bryan, Ohio, which again they searched with the help of a police canine, but no bodies.

We are told Skelton has led authorities on a wild goose chase with tips that led them to a family cabin in Cobb Lake, abandoned houses, parks, campgrounds and overpasses throughout Northwest Ohio.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/ne...n-skelton-into-custody-20101130-wpms_10865203

:furious:

 

[Mendara]

I'm having a hard time with the idea that a father would kill his kids to get out of paying child support. Not that anything surprises me any more but I would just like to think a person wouldn't stoop so low. I suppose the idea of paying child support on top of being unemployed, and recently separated could drive a person to desperate measures ...BUT ...why not just kill himself and let his kids live. Sorry for rambling ...I just don't get some people :banghead:

Because he is a selfish <Mod snip>. He figures the kids are dead, he will fake a suicide, people will feel sorry for him and the kids will never be found and his ex-wife would have learned her lesson. THIS WORLD IS FULL OF MONSTERS.

 

[JenRen]

I can't stop praying that these boys are safe and sound somewhere and this is all some bogus story made up by Skelton to get these boys away from their mother. I know it's a total far fetched idea, but I hope it's true! I know what the odds are, I know it's almost impossible, but I still have faith!

I keep hoping for this too, although I don't believe it will end that way. I want him to just be giving everyone the run around so "whomever" does have the kids can get them far away. I keep hoping he's someone who would love his kids enough to sacrifice a life without them, knowing they are safe, and away from their mother with questionable morals.

If only that were the case.

 

[dreamweaver]

The sister of a 39-year-old Lenawee County man facing parental kidnapping charges in connection with an ongoing search for his three missing sons says she doesn't think authorities are giving her brother a fair shake.

Forty-year-old Linda Ford of Jacksonville, Fla., tells the Detroit Free Press she has spoken twice with John Skelton since his failed suicide attempt Friday. Skelton was arrested Tuesday. The boys were last seen on Thanksgiving.
Ford said authorities are trying to convince Skelton that a woman he claimed to have given the children to is an alter ego.
Ford said Skelton was depressed after being fired. She plans to stand by him.​

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/01/1951313/sister-dad-of-missing-boys-not.html#ixzz16rqV497r​

I guess there is a reason why family members stick by their son, sibling, daughter.
They want their loved one to feel their support and caring.
BUT
when the Caylee A story broke, I felt that if Casey was my daughter, I would stand by her, but I would turn her in. I would visit her in prison, but I would testify against her.
With this man, <Mod snip>
I have no sympathy at all,
as other posters have said, many others, including a lot of us here on WS, have gone through hard hard times and have not resorted to killing our children.

My own brother was left with two boys to raise. He did it. Those boys went to college and are doing okay.

I guess I am just expressing my frustration with a person who is selfish enough to not end his life, but to take his boys lives!!

 

[yosande]

I can relate to raising kids with next to nothing, and absolutely no help...to the point where I felt like I was seriously going to lose it. Brief thoughts of suicide and running away from it all crossed my mind, but nothing serious ('cause then there would have been nobody left to care for my kids). Not once did killing my kids cross my mind. Strange how each brain works so differently.

I have to agree that prevention is the key. Otherwise, what? We just sit around waiting for children to die so we can 'throw away the key'?

Murdering your own children as a solution to not having to pay child support is horrific. Can't they just sign away their rights?

This is obviously a control game, and he's probably having a good ole time sending LE to wrong places, all the while tormenting the mother of his children. It's his last hooray, he has nothing else to look forward to but prison forever. He's going to enjoy it as long as he can. Infamous.

He must have been hell to live with. A daily nightmare.
And aparently he has enablers for family members, oh joy, they can take some blame for this, for never holding this joke of a man responsible for his actions as he grew into adulthood.
moo

God bless those boys, their dad surely didn't.
again moo. rant over. sorry folks.

 

[imamaze]

Just a reminder...

I know how awful this case is , and I can certainly understand, we will not allow name calling on anyone in this case including JS. It is against our TOS. Thanks.

Ima

 

[Cubby]

Murdering your own children as a solution to not having to pay child support is horrific. Can't they just sign away their rights?

Respectfully snipped and BBM. It is not as simple as signing away rights. The state will not allow a parent to sign away rights to avoid child support. If that were the case, every parent who didn't want to pay could do so and the state may someday be liable for paying public aid. Not to mention we wouldn't be a country with several billion in unpaid child support.... FWIW, I have a family member where the bio father waived his rights. He has no parental rights however he is still liable for child support.

The two ways one can sign away their rights and not be liable for child support, are 1)involuntary - the state strips rights of unfit parents 2)Voluntary - signs rights away to allow the adoption of ones children. So, if the boys mom had remarried and her husband wanted to adopt JS could waive his rights and allow another man to adopt his children. That would have never happened as I do not believe this was solely about not paying child support. This was about his second failed relationship which produced children and he was simply not going to deal with being a part time dad a second time.

jmo