Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 6 *D. Stewart guilty*

[Calliope]

Well, they can't hear from VS now can they?

No, but they could have been told of this by family or others. It just didn't read as though they were the ones to actually hear the tape themselves.

 

[Calliope]

Too much evidence to ignore Doug as a suspect. And, semantics aside, that's what he is.

Then LE needs to, as my mom used to say, **** or get off the pot. Arrest him.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm not holding my breath that the Walmart receipt will be of much value, only because I think that if he was on it, buying those things, that would be enough to break his alibi and place him in the vicinity buying items that could be used in an abduction. And that would be probable cause for arrest, I've seen cases with far less go to trial. Circumstantial but still evidence.

If I bought those items in a state adjoining that of my ex when I lived several states away and then he was abducted the next day, along with the marital history these two seem to have had, I think I would be mulling it over in county jail right now. JMO

But I also don't think they will need the receipt and/or video if it exists, if everything else pans out the way it is beginning to sound.

 

[Calliope]

I'm not holding my breath that the Walmart receipt will be of much value, only because I think that if he was on it, buying those things, that would be enough to break his alibi and place him in the vicinity buying items that could be used in an abduction. And that would be probable cause for arrest, I've seen cases with far less go to trial. Circumstantial but still evidence.

If I bought those items in a state adjoining that of my ex when I lived several states away and then he was abducted the next day, along with the marital history these two seem to have had, I think I would be mulling it over in county jail right now. JMO

But I also don't think they will need the receipt and/or video if it exists, if everything else pans out the way it is beginning to sound.

I agree. I don't think they can connect him to the purchase at walmart. Now the question is, can they connect him to the person who DID make that purchase.

 

[pufnstuf]

Really? Why wouldn't it? If you were half-way across the country when a crime happened and had an alibi, why wouldn't it rule you out?

My point is this. If Doug has an alibi in Virginia that police have checked out, it means someone else did the kidnapping of Venus. Someone else did the crime.

So how did evidence related to Venus's abduction (and possible murder) end up in the home of the elder Stewart? Risko stated that they ran cadaver dogs over the property and that evidence was taken from inside the home.

How'd it get there? Either Doug did it or someone in his family did?

The alibi hasn't even been mentioned by Risko recently.

 

[Calliope]

Just a thought, but if his lawyer is of any worth at all, DS's alibi covers not only the day she went missing but the day before as well. Considering the distance involved and all that...

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I'm not defending DS. Just looking at the facts as we know them to be right now. I stated early on that because of the distance involved, I didn't think he was the one to actually abduct her, and if he's involved, he hired someone or otherwise recruited another person to take her. Of course he'd be guilty if he hired someone else. Not sure why that would be shocking.

Well, IMO it's shocking that we have pages and pages of defending a POI and "hinting" that the victim could have framed him.
TO ME, that's shocking.

I did not mention any names in the post you quoted. Just sayin.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

No, but they could have been told of this by family or others. It just didn't read as though they were the ones to actually hear the tape themselves.

I thought it was transcribed by a legal professional. Then put away for safe keeping. Can't hear a transcription.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Then LE needs to, as my mom used to say, **** or get off the pot. Arrest him.

I could not agree more. I think it's coming. They are just gathering as much as they can before the arrest. IMO

 

[Marinemom]

Did the MSP rifle through all of Venus' belongings, take her cellphone, her keys, and all the "notes" that she made? Venus' father said he found a "note" written by Venus accusing "someone" of molesting her children. Did the MSP find that note, and did they convey that information to him, or did he find it after they left the house to investigate Doug?

I can't say it enough. When doing investigations like this where the POI has an alibi, you have to GO BACK and start with the people who were the last to see her alive. There was bad blood between the father and Doug before she disappeared. Doug accused the guy of some type of crime, which Venus wrote about. That is a given. Of course he is going to say Doug did it, that he must have kidnapped her in her pajamas when she was at the mailbox, even though the father didn't see anything. Law enforcement is investigating this crime, not the father.

They should have taken her phone to see her message traffic. Then they should take her keys to find out what each key was resolved for, what vehicles, residences, PO Boxes if any, safe-deposit boxes. Then they should have went to where she was sleeping and taken everything she wrote about because that is also evidence. When people are writing things down, they want something tangible left behind and that is why Venus did that. The father should have found nothing after the police left the scene to look for Venus.

See, if Doug has an alibi, that means someone else did the crime. Doug may be complicit in that too, but he is a jar-head and I don't think he was smart enough to plan something like this out with someone else helping him. The guy was a ex-Marine jar-head truckdriver, not a Ph.D.

I take complete offense to this!! I happen to KNOW plenty of Marines - 'jarheads' that are very intelligent, articulate, and wouldn't need someone else to plan out something like this for them!! Just because DS was a Marine - that doesn't mean he was dumb. But, on the other hand, he could have been a complete idiot BEFORE he became a marine too!

Please don't categorize our Military personnel as not being intelligent, they go through intense training and learn things that most people will never learn!

...and keep in mind that someone as simple as a 'truck painter' can be very devious killers - ask Gary Ridgeway.

 

[Calliope]

My theory is that DS's alibi will hold up; they have evidence of him being in NN both on Sunday and Monday, at least at times of day that would make it impossible for him to have been in that Walmart in Ohio at the time of the purchase, and in Michigan at the time of Venus' disappearance. I think LE is going to have to prove he had an accomplice somehow. That's going to drag this on for a long, long time.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I agree. I don't think they can connect him to the purchase at walmart. Now the question is, can they connect him to the person who DID make that purchase.

IMO he could have been in the parking lot, or even down the road, handed someone a list and offered them $20 to go in an buy it.
He would not be on the tape, but that does not mean he was not there.

 

[pufnstuf]

Well, Risko could say the same thing about you truthfully. Would that be pretty damning for you?

He just stated a fact. You are reading meaning into that which may or may not be true.

He could, but he's not. You know why? Because my car and truck don't have blood stains in them; I didn't by a tarp, shovel, hat, and gloves in Ohio the day before the victim disappeared; a truck similar to mine wasn't spotted in a field cattycorner to the McComb's house; I never told Venus I'd pop a cap in her with a .357; MSP didn't find evidence related to this abduction in my parents' house; in fact, I don't even know Venus, and I certainly have no hostile history with her. That's why I, or you, or anyone else isn't being investigated for this crime.

But Doug.... well...

 

[Calliope]

I thought it was transcribed by a legal professional. Then put away for safe keeping. Can't hear a transcription.

There was a tape and a transcription of the tape.

 

[Calliope]

IMO he could have been in the parking lot, or even down the road, handed someone a list and offered them $20 to go in an buy it.
He would not be on the tape, but that does not mean he was not there.

Like I said, now the question is, can they connect him to the person who DID make that purchase.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

There was a tape and a transcription of the tape.

I know there was a tape, but where is the the tape now?

I must have missed something.
If they have it, I'm sure they listened to it.

 

[Calliope]

Well, IMO it's shocking that we have pages and pages of defending a POI and "hinting" that the victim could have framed him.
TO ME, that's shocking.

I did not mention any names in the post you quoted. Just sayin.

I know. Can't speak for anyone but myself, though.

 

[pufnstuf]

IMO, if DS was involved, someone else did the actual abduction.

I've thought from early on that he had someone in Michigan help him (someone manipulated by the "we'll never see the kids again" BS--family, in other words), but that he did it himself.

 

[Calliope]

I know there was a tape, but where is the the tape now?

I must have missed something.
If they have it, I'm sure they listened to it.

That's the point; their statement was worded in such a way that (IMO) they were repeating what they were told, not that they actually listened to it.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Like I said, now the question is, can they connect him to the person who DID make that purchase.

If he had one brain cell working that night, no.
But, IMO they won't need to with all the other evidence that is pileing up.

JMO