Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 18

[scandi]

That is unsettling Charlie, even though I think as they said, there are other ways to discover if she was sexually abused. Unless a swab was taken as you say, they might have to exhume her body for tests to take away all reasonable doubt for a jury. They do it all the time on Forensic Files! I know I'm so bad!

What disturbs me more is how this info was possibly relayed to those in charge. Having gone 6 mos since the death and 2 1/2 months since the AR was signed off, this is bizarre to come out now. LE might not realize this, but it could be about as bad as the mistake of communication between the investigators and the ME's office! Scandi

 

[Stoli]

it seems ME messed up but i look at it this way. all her injuries were to the head except for the defensive wounds. she was fully clothed. and at least according to the AR there weren't any bruising on her thighs to show someone was trying to spread her legs (sorry about the details) so if i were a juror, i don't think i would buy the defense side (if they used it) that she could have been assaulted. i've seen women that were sexually assaulted there usually were bruising and signs. while i believe they should have done the kit i can't say that i buy it as a doubt.

It seems to me that it is just a lot more doo doo, I mean to do about notihin'.

 

[raisincharlie]

That is unsettling Charlie, even though I think as they said, there are other ways to discover if she was sexually abused. Unless a swab was taken as you say, they might have to exhume her body for tests to take away all reasonable doubt for a jury. They do it all the time on Forensic Files! I know I'm so bad!

What disturbs me more is how this info was possibly relayed to those in charge. Having gone 6 mos since the death and 2 1/2 months since the AR was signed off, this is bizarre to come out now. LE might not realize this, but it could be about as bad as the mistake of communication between the investigators and the ME's office! Scandi

Scandi,

The video from WRAL clearly showed the request sheet - LE very clearly marked it for the request for an SA. I don't think there is any way to say LE miscommunicated their intent. I think this one is on the ME and I think this has caused a major hold up in this case.

Perhaps this release of information is indeed the prelude to an exhumation order. I feel so terrible for Linda Fisher if it comes to this but it may become essential.

 

[j2mirish]

Hi J2mirish, Great to see you!

Just a memory from early insider posts in the case, and remember the Youngs kept a hidden key out by a door. That tells me they probably most usually locked their doors when they left.

Well, a little Blockbuster for the late afternoon it looks like! I think this was brought to the attention of LE very recently, like in the last day or 2, and I won't even say how I think it happened but do have my thoughts!


Wonder if Jason is going out to celebrate the news at Pizza Hut? LOL :slap:

thnx Scandi--
lol :silenced:

 

[scandi]

thnx Scandi--
lol :silenced:

Denada Dah'ling! Sometimes laughter in the face of great consternation does some good, right?

I did just have one horrific thought though. We learned yesterday I believe that a package of unused condums was listed on the original SW. I am now wondering if whatever was alluded to have been removed from the crime scene and not given to LE is indeed relevent to the SW!~

Sami's probably still sleeping, but I hope she checks in. Scandi

 

[j2mirish]

Denada Dah'ling! Sometimes laughter in the face of great consternation does some good, right?

I did just have one horrific thought though. We learned yesterday I believe that a package of unused condums was listed on the original SW. I am now wondering if whatever was alluded to have been removed from the crime scene and not given to LE is indeed relevent to the SW!~

Sami's probably still sleeping, but I hope she checks in. Scandi

yes, I will be glad when she awakens and sees the NEWS that has been posted since she went to bed !! LOL- I would like to know about the sex/exhumed question- I dont believe there was an assault, I would just like to know if they could prove it, so the defense can be shut down, as it will be a big tadooo fro them at this point-

 

[raisincharlie]

Denada Dah'ling! Sometimes laughter in the face of great consternation does some good, right?

I did just have one horrific thought though. We learned yesterday I believe that a package of unused condums was listed on the original SW. I am now wondering if whatever was alluded to have been removed from the crime scene and not given to LE is indeed relevent to the SW!~

Sami's probably still sleeping, but I hope she checks in. Scandi

Scandi,

Sorry to say I consider that information suspect given that the source that has claimed it hasn't been exactly reliable nor able to provide a link or anything to back up the claim.

Exhumations in NC From Chapter 130A State Code:

130A‑390. Exhumations.
(a) In any case of death described in G.S. 130A‑383 or 130A‑384 where the body is buried without investigation by a medical examiner as to the cause and manner of death or where sufficient cause develops for further investigation after a body is buried as determined by a county medical examiner or the Chief Medical Examiner, the Chief Medical Examiner shall authorize an investigation and send a report of the investigation with recommendations to the appropriate district attorney. The district attorney may forward the report to the superior court judge and petition for disinterment. The judge may order that the body be exhumed and that an autopsy be performed by the Chief Medical Examiner. A report of the autopsy and other pathological studies shall be delivered to the judge. The cost of the exhumation, autopsy, transportation and disposition of the body shall be paid by the State. However, if the deceased is a resident of the county in which death or fatal injury occurred, that county shall pay the cost.
(b) Any person may petition a judge of the superior court for an order of exhumation. Upon showing of sufficient cause, the judge may order the body exhumed. The cost incurred shall be assigned to the petitioner.
(c) Without applying for a judicial exhumation order, the next‑of‑kin of a deceased person may have the remains exhumed, examined by the Chief Medical Examiner and redisposed. The cost shall be paid by the next‑of‑kin. (1983, c. 891, s. 2; 1991, c. 463, s. 3.)

 

[Samiya]

Oh man am I peeved!

How the (insert cussing) could this have happened?

John Butts, I seriously disagree with you. If a rape kit is requested originally, it should have been done regardless of whatever 'changes' come after the initial request.

Sounds more to me like there was a breakdown in communication in the ME's office which needs to be not only addressed, but someone needs to be raked over the coals, fed to the sharks, donated to cannibals or whatever!

grrrrr!


Sami

 

[j2mirish]

Oh man am I peeved!

How the (insert cussing) could this have happened?

John Butts, I seriously disagree with you. If a rape kit is requested originally, it should have been done regardless of whatever 'changes' come after the initial request.

Sounds more to me like there was a breakdown in communication in the ME's office which needs to be not only addressed, but someone needs to be raked over the coals, fed to the sharks, donated to cannibals or whatever!

grrrrr!


Sami

Morning Sami.....:angel:

 

[raisincharlie]

Oh man am I peeved!

How the (insert cussing) could this have happened?

John Butts, I seriously disagree with you. If a rape kit is requested originally, it should have been done regardless of whatever 'changes' come after the initial request.

Sounds more to me like there was a breakdown in communication in the ME's office which needs to be not only addressed, but someone needs to be raked over the coals, fed to the sharks, donated to cannibals or whatever!

grrrrr!


Sami

Nice to see you Sami - are you having a good day ?

 

[athy]

morning sami,

if they exhumed her body and did one now would it tell them anything?

 

[Samiya]

morning sami,

if they exhumed her body and did one now would it tell them anything?

It may, but it may not. I will never forget seeing photos of Elizabeth (MP case) and the condition of her body on exhumation. It was absolutely amazing and a credit to her embalmer.

BTW If it was Jason who killed her, proof of an SA would not really be that 'important' apart from showing how bad her ordeal was. The most 'important' part would be to prove that he murdered Michelle. If it was someone else however, totally different story.

I pray that Linda won't have to go through the ordeal of an exhumation that would break my heart.

I have to go out for awhile. My work is never done, I need a slave!

Sami

 

[jilly]

Oh my goodness....just reading at CTV, the doctor who apparently performed the autopsy was a 3rd year intern and not even a Certified Medical Examiner.
I don't think I can read anymore tonight.

 

[strach304]

That is unsettling Charlie, even though I think as they said, there are other ways to discover if she was sexually abused. Unless a swab was taken as you say, they might have to exhume her body for tests to take away all reasonable doubt for a jury. They do it all the time on Forensic Files! I know I'm so bad!

What disturbs me more is how this info was possibly relayed to those in charge. Having gone 6 mos since the death and 2 1/2 months since the AR was signed off, this is bizarre to come out now. LE might not realize this, but it could be about as bad as the mistake of communication between the investigators and the ME's office! Scandi

I am getting the feeling that LE wanted this out there and had AL do the follow up (same day too) to show what happened. If they have to exhume the body for further testing they need to show good cause for one thing and try to rectify an extreme over sight. The ME was imo trying to cover his butt and his departments. What worries me about that is the competence of the ME will be questioned by the defense as well.

Once again we're seeing similarities with the Peterson case. Geragos made it a point to show at trial that LE took swabs from Scott's hands for gunpowder residue but never had those tested. Again same with the gun. It really turned out to be a non-issue that meant absolutely nothing because they don't know how she was killed and the expert they did have examine the gun said it was jammed and wouldn't fire anyway.

 

[Samiya]

Jilly,

Greene was only in attendance. Clark did the autopsy.

Now I'm off!

Sami

 

[jilly]

Jilly,

Greene was only in attendance. Clark did the autopsy.

Now I'm off!

Sami

Whew! Thanks Sami, I'll take your word for it because I want to sleep tonite!

 

[Nomimi]

Oh my goodness....just reading at CTV, the doctor who apparently performed the autopsy was a 3rd year intern and not even a Certified Medical Examiner.
I don't think I can read anymore tonight.

Oh, you read my mind Jilly. How the hell can you put an internist on a murder case? WTF is goin on in Raleigh? Jason Young had already hired an attorney by that time. Was he bribed? Did JY have sex w/ her after midnight????

 

[philamena]

Oh my goodness....just reading at CTV, the doctor who apparently performed the autopsy was a 3rd year intern and not even a Certified Medical Examiner.
I don't think I can read anymore tonight.

:doh: oh no! That is unreal. Shouldn't a qualified ME been present even if an intern did the autopsy? It should have been obvious that Michelle had suffered greatly before dying. I am shocked at this latest news.

 

[Samiya]

It doesn't get any plainer than this.

" Well, he just will not talk to us,” Harrison explained. “We'd try to go through his attorney, and also contact him, and he has failed to come in or failed to meet us anytime that we've asked."

Statement from Donnie Harrison.

http://news14.com/content/top_stories/582047/still-no-arrest-in-michelle-young-murder/Default.aspx

Sounds like Jason has laryngitis.....

Sami

 

[raisincharlie]

It doesn't get any plainer than this.

" Well, he just will not talk to us,” Harrison explained. “We'd try to go through his attorney, and also contact him, and he has failed to come in or failed to meet us anytime that we've asked."

Statement from Donnie Harrison.

http://news14.com/content/top_stories/582047/still-no-arrest-in-michelle-young-murder/Default.aspx

Sounds like Jason has laryngitis.....

Sami

I'm sure it can be misread. Did you notice the color of the carpeting ?