Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 18

[strach304]

If Michelle's tooth, why was no one looking for it? If someone else's tooth... whose? Who to arrest?

--Jake

How do you know they weren't looking for it? How do you know it was even there all that time? You keep saying what if it was someone else's as if you think LE did not verify that it was Michelle's.

 

[jake]

Well this message would be better addressed to Jason Young I think, after all he is the one who placed his own Mother in the position she found herself in didn't he ? Refusing to speak to police, leaving her outside having to deal with them -yes I believe he owes an apology to his Mom. He continues to hide and he continues to shame his family - indeed an apology would do some good, only if it is accompanied by the truth that is.

Michelle Young is the victim.

Michelle is a victim. Her unborn son is a victim. In a different way, Cassie is a victim. Jason is a victim. The Fisher family, the Young family, and friends..... we're all victims of this savage killer.

I think none of us want to hear an apology from this killer.

--Jake

 

[athy]

If Michelle's tooth, why was no one looking for it? If someone else's tooth... whose? Who to arrest?

--Jake

uumm whoever the DNA would be off of the tooth. they can test the tooth for DNA, most likely they've already done it, or checked her dental records as they can id who belongs to a tooth from that. if not i'm sure they still have it and could. SOMEONE would notice another person missing a tooth who wasn't before this happened.

 

[Scout]

Michelle is a victim. Her unborn son is a victim. In a different way, Cassie is a victim. Jason is a victim. The Fisher family, the Young family, and friends..... we're all victims of this savage killer.

I think none of us want to hear an apology from this killer.

--Jake

Jason doesn't get victim status unless and until he's cleared of the murder.

 

[strach304]

If a fragment was found they couldn't match that to Michelle's dental records but would have to do dna, right? Anybody? A whole tooth they could id that way without doing the dna. I don't know for certain what was found. First report said tooth, Then we heard fragment and then it was said both were found.

 

[harleysnana]

No arrest.

--Jake

No arrest... YET...
I still have faith..

I take it that you "hinting" LE missed evidence
and that the "someone" who found it is in Jason's camp...
"Jason's camp" thinks is big?

So …. if we don’t hear about the “something found”
then can we assume that the defense had it tested and it lead back to Jason?

Also Jake….I'm just wondering when you talk about justice and not
giving high fives in court... will you still stand behind those statements
if it comes out that Jason was the killer... like Mark Hackings family did.

Or will you be more like the Petersons family… And still deny even
after the Jury convicted him?

My guess is from reading your posts regarding how they
"treat" Mrs. Young…..and how you view the possible mistakes
that LE made...
You would be more like the Petersons?

JMO

 

[scandi]

:clap: Great post Harleysnana!

And Strach, Barney said the clerk at the ME's office told him yes the tooth was Michelle's - I think he said it fit into the socket.

 

[Bellgardin]

No arrest.

--Jake

There are many cases where the arrest took much longer than 6 months and you know that. It took 2 years to bring Justin Barber to justice and there are many many more cases like that. Obviously it would be great if everything were all wrapped up in a tidy little bow within an hour but this is real life, not CSI or Law & Order.

If JY had already been arrested you would be screaming at the top of your lungs that its been too soon-only 6 months. But since they haven't arrested anyone that has to mean he is innocent? I want justice for Michelle and her son. I care more about that then protecting JY. Honestly, I would prefer that it wasn't JY because then Cassie would have at least one parent. But I'm not ready to think he's innocent just because 6 months have passed and he hasn't been arrested. Granted, he hasn't been arrested, but he hasn't been cleared either. And no one else has been arrested. But then I've already said all this several times.

No arrest does not equal innocent---JMO!!!

 

[Bellgardin]

:clap: Great post Harleysnana!

And Strach, Barney said the clerk at the ME's office told him yes the tooth was Michelle's - I think he said it fit into the socket.

I agree-great post!!

 

[scandi]

:clap: Gosh, Another great post Bellgardin! That post is fair and balanced all the way down the line ;}

 

[Bellgardin]

:clap: Gosh, Another great post Bellgardin! That post is fair and balanced all the way down the line ;}

Thanks Scandi! I admire your posts!

BG

 

[Samiya]

http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/570752.html

Pennica said he could not talk about the investigation in Young’s death specifically. But he said a request for a sexual assault exam doesn’t necessarily mean police suspect a victim has been raped.

Sometimes, DNA evidence will show whether a woman has had consensual partners, and that can help investigators check into other leads, he said.
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Back much later.

Sami

 

[jake]

How do you know they weren't looking for it? How do you know it was even there all that time? You keep saying what if it was someone else's as if you think LE did not verify that it was Michelle's.

In a news story LE said the tooth was not Michelle's. Then the story said the tooth had not been tested.

Not too long ago I provided a link to this story. Now when I go back to look for the story on WRAL, the story I come up with says nothing about the tooth not being tested.

Scout's going to blast me for being paranoid, so I'll brace myself. Maybe somebody else can find that story. No Scout, I'm not blaming WRAL or LE for changing the story or removing it. I just can't find it.

--Jake

 

[strach304]

I know Scandi but he's the one that keeps bring up the tooth not being tested like anything other than dna doesn't count. I know the ME had her dental records. Then there's the issue of was a fragment also found? Could this be why Jake thinks the proper testing wasn't done?

I also don't believe any of this puts Jason in the clear with LE until they do assertain the who and why and Jason was no part of it. Who's to say if they have unknown dna, blood, footprints etc. that rules Jason out that he still had no hand in it? Finding that person though LE could find that out. You know if it was a hired thing they will squeal.

 

[strach304]

In a news story LE said the tooth was not Michelle's. Then the story said the tooth had not been tested.

Not too long ago I provided a link to this story. Now when I go back to look for the story on WRAL, the story I come up with says nothing about the tooth not being tested.

Scout's going to blast me for being paranoid, so I'll brace myself. Maybe somebody else can find that story. No Scout, I'm not blaming WRAL or LE for changing the story or removing it. I just can't find it.

--Jake

I'd rather see where they said it wasn't Michelle's. I know at the time of the interview they hadn't tested it yet and we told you that over and over again. Doesn't mean that they didn't at all, just at that time.

 

[strach304]

http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/570752.html

Pennica said he could not talk about the investigation in Young’s death specifically. But he said a request for a sexual assault exam doesn’t necessarily mean police suspect a victim has been raped.

Sometimes, DNA evidence will show whether a woman has had consensual partners, and that can help investigators check into other leads, he said.
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Back much later.

Sami

There would be other indications as well. Someone even suggested it as SOP and not a reason to believe LE thinks that's what happened. I think the DA came across it looking for defense loop holes while going over the case.

 

[jake]

No arrest... YET...
I still have faith..

I take it that you "hinting" LE missed evidence
and that the "someone" who found it is in Jason's camp...
"Jason's camp" thinks is big?

So …. if we don’t hear about the “something found”
then can we assume that the defense had it tested and it lead back to Jason?

Also Jake….I'm just wondering when you talk about justice and not
giving high fives in court... will you still stand behind those statements
if it comes out that Jason was the killer... like Mark Hackings family did.

Or will you be more like the Petersons family… And still deny even
after the Jury convicted him?

My guess is from reading your posts regarding how they
"treat" Mrs. Young…..and how you view the possible mistakes
that LE made...
You would be more like the Petersons?

JMO

Now wait a minute. All I did was answer a short post with a short post of my own and suddenly I'm like the Peterson family? How about reviewing this:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellgardin
Unless you work for LE or the prosecutor's office how would you know if the have the evidence for a conviction or not?

No arrest.

--Jake

 

[Scout]

In a news story LE said the tooth was not Michelle's. Then the story said the tooth had not been tested.

Not too long ago I provided a link to this story. Now when I go back to look for the story on WRAL, the story I come up with says nothing about the tooth not being tested.

Scout's going to blast me for being paranoid, so I'll brace myself. Maybe somebody else can find that story. No Scout, I'm not blaming WRAL or LE for changing the story or removing it. I just can't find it.

--Jake

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4811361

Although it has not yet been tested they believe the tooth belonged to Michelle Young, not her killer.

 

[jake]

:clap: Great post Harleysnana!

And Strach, Barney said the clerk at the ME's office told him yes the tooth was Michelle's - I think he said it fit into the socket.

You think they dug Michelle up to check the tooth and socket? I doubt it.

--Jake

 

[Scout]

I'd rather see where they said it wasn't Michelle's. I know at the time of the interview they hadn't tested it yet and we told you that over and over again. Doesn't mean that they didn't at all, just at that time.

They never said the tooth wasn't Michelle's; they said it would not have helped identify her killer. Obviously, it was never believed to have been the killer's tooth.