Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 18

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  • #321
I understand totally how you both feel about this. You might feel differently also if you were the main suspect from the beginning. Especially if you were innocent.

--Jake

Here's the problem: You might HOPE that but you, as an outsider, don't KNOW that.

I have the great misfortune to be closely connected to a family who has a son that committed a murder. The family is devastated but they have not tried to sidestep the fact that their son committed a horrible crime. He could be facing the death penalty which absolutely breaks my heart (considering that I do not believe in the death penalty).

To their credit, the family supports their son but they do not support his act. He will serve whatever penalty the court imposes, including the possibility of death.

I can relate on this level, Jake. It hurts to know that someone you know could do this. Accepting it is tough.
 
  • #322
Perhaps I should not have given a specific percentage. The vast majority of innocent people would never run and hide from LE. They would be front and center pleading with the public for information and assisting LE anyway they could.


:rolleyes:

I understand. I don't accept your "vast majority" figure either. That may have been true once upon a time.

--Jake
 
  • #323
Scout, a reporter is trained to put his most important news in the lead, the first paragraph of his story. AL did not do this. Why not? Because she is protecting a source? Because she has even more information she is going to break later?

--Jake


Wasn't the failure to do a sexual assault exam at the top of her report -- the TV report, not the online article?
 
  • #324
The spouse is always the first suspect. An innocent spouse would want to co-operate with LE so they could clear him and try to find the killer. He is hindering the investigation into his wifes death by refusing to speak to LE.

"Hindering"? Maybe slightly. But I don't think LE needs to clear him before investigating other possibilities. Do you?

Unfortunately, I think this has happened. I believe LE's tunnel vision has hindered their investigation. Jason is not to blame for this.

--Jake
 
  • #325
I talk with him occasionally, usually at family functions. Please understand he is still grieving. I do not bring up the murder of his wife. We generally talk about other things.

I don't know what you will see. Most people will see what they want to see.

--Jake

See, this is why I find your comments confusing. You tend to always be shifting gears. I don't mean to be derogatory , just trying to explain my level of frustration .

Just a few weeks ago when it was reported that the husband was moving out with his daughter , you alluded to him *moving on* , leaving the readers with the impression that his grieving was over. It started a heated discussion on another board.

Now, you state that 6 months later he is still grieving. Most people would think this was rather normal . I read somewhere that it can take some people as long as 18 - 36 months to recover from losing a spouse.

You seem to contradict yourself which decreases your level of credibility.

Nothing personal intended.
 
  • #326
I understand. I don't accept your "vast majority" figure either. That may have been true once upon a time.

--Jake

The normal reaction of an innocent, loving spouse would be to help in any way they could. Maybe I'm not normal, but if the love of my life was killed, the last thing I would be worried about is whether or not they MIGHT consider me a suspect. I wouldn't care. I would know that I wasn't a suspect and I would do whatever I could to aid in the investigation. I love my spouse. Maybe that's the difference.
 
  • #327
Here's the problem: You might HOPE that but you, as an outsider, don't KNOW that.

I have the great misfortune to be closely connected to a family who has a son that committed a murder. The family is devastated but they have not tried to sidestep the fact that their son committed a horrible crime. He could be facing the death penalty which absolutely breaks my heart (considering that I do not believe in the death penalty).

To their credit, the family supports their son but they do not support his act. He will serve whatever penalty the court imposes, including the possibility of death.

I can relate on this level, Jake. It hurts to know that someone you know could do this. Accepting it is tough.

I can certainly sympathize with you. I am sorry you had to go through this experience. I hope I can be as accepting as you and the son's family if it comes to that.

--Jake
 
  • #328
"Hindering"? Maybe slightly. But I don't think LE needs to clear him before investigating other possibilities. Do you?

Unfortunately, I think this has happened. I believe LE's tunnel vision has hindered their investigation. Jason is not to blame for this.

--Jake


It's just common sense that they need to clear the first suspect. I don't see that LE has tunnel vision at all. Unfortunately Jasons refusal to co-operate gives LE reason to keep him at the top of the list though.
 
  • #329
"Hindering"? Maybe slightly. But I don't think LE needs to clear him before investigating other possibilities. Do you?

Unfortunately, I think this has happened. I believe LE's tunnel vision has hindered their investigation. Jason is not to blame for this.

--Jake


So, what do you base these fears on ? There has been so little information released about this crime . Do you have some inside info that you cannot share ? If so, I understand that.
 
  • #330
Wasn't the failure to do a sexual assault exam at the top of her report -- the TV report, not the online article?

6 Months Later, Young Murder Case Still Unsolved

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Posted: May. 2, 2007
Updated: May. 3, 2007
Raleigh — Michelle Young was devoted to her family and supportive of her friends and coworkers, and in the busyness of life, she would make a conscious choice to make time for those who needed her.

snipped+++++++++++++++++++

This was the lead to the story I read. Down about paragraph #18 was the information about no sex test taken.

Don't know about the video report.

--Jake
 
  • #331
I can certainly sympathize with you. I am sorry you had to go through this experience. I hope I can be as accepting as you and the son's family if it comes to that.

--Jake

I appreciate that and I believe you are sincere. My heart has been with those close to the crime from day one. It is hell no matter what you believe or want to believe.
 
  • #332
6 Months Later, Young Murder Case Still Unsolved

1066008-1178237775-220x165.jpg


Posted: May. 2, 2007
Updated: May. 3, 2007
Raleigh — Michelle Young was devoted to her family and supportive of her friends and coworkers, and in the busyness of life, she would make a conscious choice to make time for those who needed her.

snipped+++++++++++++++++++

This was the lead to the story I read. Down about paragraph #18 was the information about no sex test taken.

Don't know about the video report.

--Jake


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1377240/

There's a link to the video report right under the photo you copied. Watch it and see for yourself which story leads her report.
 
  • #333
I appreciate that and I believe you are sincere. My heart has been with those close to the crime from day one. It is hell no matter what you believe or want to believe.

I agree but it doesn't bring justice to Michelle. She was the one murdered and for people to have blinders on for their own security in their beliefs does tremendous amounts of harm.

Lives cannot go on normally or accepting until someone is brought to justice. Michelle did not bludgeon herself to death.
 
  • #334
I agree but it doesn't bring justice to Michelle. She was the one murdered and for people to have blinders on for their own security in their beliefs does tremendous amounts of harm.

Lives cannot go on normally or accepting until someone is brought to justice. Michelle did not bludgeon herself to death.

Good point. I don't know that there has been a whole lot of disagreement to the opinion that Jason is a prick. There is a lot of suspicion but not evidence that he is also a murderer. The rest of the story is waiting for an ending.
 
  • #335
See, this is why I find your comments confusing. You tend to always be shifting gears. I don't mean to be derogatory , just trying to explain my level of frustration .

Just a few weeks ago when it was reported that the husband was moving out with his daughter , you alluded to him *moving on* , leaving the readers with the impression that his grieving was over. It started a heated discussion on another board.

Now, you state that 6 months later he is still grieving. Most people would think this was rather normal . I read somewhere that it can take some people as long as 18 - 36 months to recover from losing a spouse.

You seem to contradict yourself which decreases your level of credibility.

Nothing personal intended.

Thanks, Citygirl for giving me a chance to address this. I had forgotten about it since it came from ctv. Now you've got me scratching my head and thinking, "did I say that"?

I believe that was another poster who said that about "moving on". I don't remember which one but I remember reading it and the discussion. I believe I had been kicked off but could still read. I'm sure you will correct me if I'm wrong.

Believe me, Jason is still grieving. At times his family and I have feared for him. I believe Cassie is his anchor.

Since there are so few of us on the boards defending Jason, often we are considered as one. We are not. \

I believe "moving on" means that Jason is trying to reconstruct a life for himself and Cassie in the face of their devastating loss.

--Jake
 
  • #336
I'm confused about this. I know that Hawthorne's pal addressed this and I brought it up here last nite and Sami disagrees. She says that the Pathologist Clark performed the autopsy.

I dug out the AR and on the front page it says:

Authorized by Kevine Green, M.D.
Persons present at autopsy: Mr. Kevin Gerity, Dr. Kevin Greene (no mention of the Pathologist, Thomas B. Clark)

Thomas B. Clark lll MD, Pathologist signs the Pathological Diagnoses but just above his signature it says:

"The facts stated herein are correct to the best of my knowledge and belief."

So. Are you saying that Greene performed the autopsy and Clark signed as his superior technically 'rubber stamped' it?

jilly

Dr Greene performed the autopsy on Saturday am. Dr Clark signed the final report that was written by Dr Greene.
 
  • #337
I just hope that trying to reconstruct yourself doesn't include denying a harm. Which is sometimes the case. Sorta like forget and move on. No moving on with an unsolved case. Not till the victim receives justice. No other matters.
 
  • #338
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1377240/

There's a link to the video report right under the photo you copied. Watch it and see for yourself which story leads her report.

Thanks, Scout, I watched it. The date on the original written story is May 2. I could see no date on the video. The written story was updated May 3. Maybe that's when the video was shot?

--Jake
 
  • #339
So, what do you base these fears on ? There has been so little information released about this crime . Do you have some inside info that you cannot share ? If so, I understand that.

Hi, Citygirl. I don't know that I have much inside info I cannot share. Maybe a little, but nothing significant.

As some posters have been so kind to point out, I have told about everything I know. I have shared the mysterious bloody little footprints, the killer's bloody shower, the neglected bloody socks, the ignored bloody linen, the constipated dog, the forgotten tooth.

I freely admit that in most cases I merely followed up on what JTF had revealed before. I'm not trying to be the hero here.

What else is there? What would you have if JTF and I hadn't shared? And not even a thank you from most posters.

--Jake
 
  • #340
Thanks, Scout, I watched it. The date on the original written story is May 2. I could see no date on the video. The written story was updated May 3. Maybe that's when the video was shot?

--Jake

If you check the links here you'll see that every report there after did lead with that and even headlined. She may have wanted to report on as soon as she found out so that's why it wasn't the lead originally. Remember how more and more trickled out after that was published she then got statements from everyone such as LE, the DA. the ME's office etc. They could've said no comment before the first story was published and that was her way of getting more details to report. Very effective plan if that's what happened.
 
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