Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 7

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  • #241
raisincharlie said:
Here we go, another tidbit about a lap top seizure - Jy's lap top. Due to N&O copyright restrictions - you are just going to have to read it:


http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/524576.html


So confirmation that there was a lap top in the SUV. I am assuming the warrant was returned on Friday Dec 22.

I am not sure if that was when it was done or is when it was obtained by N&O.

That sure seems odd as heck. They seize it the very day of the murder 11-03-06 and the warrant was for 12-22-06?

To seize it the warrant would have to have been when they seized the SUV wouldn't it?

I do think they have analyzed this laptop of course.

IMO

Ocean
 
  • #242
oceanblueeyes said:
I am not sure if that was when it was done or is when it was obtained by N&O.

That sure seems odd as heck. They seize it the very day of the murder 11-03-06 and the warrant was for 12-22-06?

To seize it the warrant would have to have been when they seized the SUV wouldn't it?

I do think they have analyzed this laptop of course.

IMO

Ocean
I believe 12/22 is the return date of the warrant nothing to do with the date it was siezed. Without seeing the warrant, the date activity was requested is not ascertainable.

ETA - read it again - the article is confusing -it says filed - it is possible the 12/22 date is the date request was made for forensic investigation of the hard drive. Confusing article except that it confirms the lap top was in the SUV. I take that as good news - perhaps all his clothes were still in the SUV as well.
 
  • #243
Good job RC, looks like we were right, one would turn up and they're just now getting around to looking at it.

Ocean, even though Distaso often called the Peterson defense theories ridiculous and ta ta'd them on occasion he himself said a lot of money and resources were tied up disproving those ridiculous defense theories. There were quite a few at that from barbeque sauce to bags of cement.
 
  • #244
strach304 said:
Good job RC, looks like we were right, one would turn up and they're just now getting around to looking at it.

Ocean, even though Distaso often called the Peterson defense theories ridiculous and ta ta'd them on occasion he himself said a lot of money and resources were tied up disproving those ridiculous defense theories. There were quite a few at that from barbeque sauce to bags of cement.
Yes Strach - I'm quite glad to see this lap top appear. I suspect it may well be the computer that will answer some questions in particular about the fax/printout and who knows what else - most likely MY had zero access to this one and there may be many many things on it of interest to LE. Lets hope that is the case.

ETA - checked all the air media - nothing and no one has posted a copy of this one - maybe WRAL will in the future.
 
  • #245
Now that we have confirmation of the laptops existence and that he had it with him we know he could have sent the fax while out of town. What was the wording LE used about the printout in the hours before? Was it before death or before discovery of the body?
 
  • #246
strach304 said:
Now that we have confirmation of the laptops existence and that he had it with him we know he could have sent the fax while out of town. What was the wording LE used about the printout in the hours before? Was it before death or before discovery of the body?
Before the body was discovered. I agree Jy could have sent the fpo (fax printout) himself - one thing is certain - he knew it was at the house on the printer.

Scout made a very interesting point about the wills - what if MY left her financial assests to Cassidy rather than JY. Thinking about that and going a step further - what if Cassidy died and the finances were transfered to MY's blood familiy (MF or LF) - what if the will was changed after the May accident ? A lot of what ifs but as Scandi noted, a reporter indicated there was something questionable about the wills. Just a few thoughts...
 
  • #247
strach304 said:
Now that we have confirmation of the laptops existence and that he had it with him we know he could have sent the fax while out of town. What was the wording LE used about the printout in the hours before? Was it before death or before discovery of the body?
Hi Strach :)

It was in the hours before the discovery of Chelle's body.

Also, if this is a business computer owned by either Jason or ChartOne, there would be confidential client information on it. If so, then ChartOne would be the recipient of a warrant to search digital files as those clients would belong to ChartOne, not Jason since he is only an employee.
 
  • #248
raisincharlie said:
Before the body was discovered. I agree Jy could have sent the fpo (fax printout) himself - one thing is certain - he knew it was at the house on the printer.

Scout made a very interesting point about the wills - what if MY left her financial assests to Cassidy rather than JY. Thinking about that and going a step further - what if Cassidy died and the finances were transfered to MY's blood familiy (MF or LF) - what if the will was changed after the May accident ? A lot of what ifs but as Scandi noted, a reporter indicated there was something questionable about the wills. Just a few thoughts...
OMG! Am sending you a PM!

Sorry hon, I've been working and haven't been near my computer til now.
 
  • #249
Samiya said:
OMG! Am sending you a PM!

Sorry hon, I've been working and haven't been near my computer til now.
Forget the work stuff - we need your input here and now !!!:D
 
  • #250
raisincharlie said:
Ocean,

I don't doubt you - but now this thing has spun out to JY's parents are now saying he was in Brevard when MY was killed. I recall very early on in this case Sheriff Harrison commented that family alibi's are rarely reliable and thought it was an odd thing to say but it has never left my mind. Then we have Fussell saying JY told him at MY's funeral that JY went to VA on business. Something is way out of kilter here and I just have a hard time with some guy who has zero to do with this case going on TV and repeating what supposedly police told him when the police are saying zero zip nada - something is not right IMO.
I'm commenting on this before catching up but I do remember reading an article that said basically that JY was with his parents, or in Brevard (can't remember which) in the morning. I just figured it was another news reporter gone wrong. It was just a one or two-liner but it left me with that impression.:doh:
 
  • #251
scandi said:
(snipped)

LE found his will and insurance documents which were highly questionable, but not enough to nail him. And a brief comment that he as a reporter was not sure if this had something to do with MM.

Scandi
I wonder if there was a jump in insurance right before the car accident?
 
  • #252
Taximom said:
I'm commenting on this before catching up but I do remember reading an article that said basically that JY was with his parents, or in Brevard (can't remember which) in the morning. I just figured it was another news reporter gone wrong. It was just a one or two-liner but it left me with that impression.:doh:
Thank you Taximom - I was begining to think I was spending too much time in the barn...:p
 
  • #253
raisincharlie said:
Forget the work stuff - we need your input here and now !!!:D
lol :) Unfortunately if I have to work I do have to work. Otherwise I'd be here 24/7 :)

Dang it.....I plumb forgot what I was pm'ing you about!

I'll remember later on :bang:
 
  • #254
:laugh: :laugh:



Samiya said:
lol :) Unfortunately if I have to work I do have to work. Otherwise I'd be here 24/7 :)

Dang it.....I plumb forgot what I was pm'ing you about!

I'll remember later on :bang:

You "plumb " forgot = ROFLMAO
 
  • #255
Taximom said:
I wonder if there was a jump in insurance right before the car accident?
Or not long before Chelle's murder?

Weird that the reporter would slip in a comment about MM though..so I wonder if his will has been changed recently..maybe he changed his will so that if anything happened to him, guardianship of Cassidy would go to MM if Chelle is also not alive....she may be Cassidy's godmother.

Not sure about over there but over here, godparents must be willing to take on a child if something happens to the parents before the child is 18....although the grandparents usually intervene to fight over the child anyway so I don't know why some folks bother, lol.

Lots of things I could speculate on here....and Scandi, your thoughts, although scares me to death on Cassidy's behalf, make total sense :(

RC LOL I must have Plumbzeimers
 
  • #256
Samiya said:
Hi Strach :)

It was in the hours before the discovery of Chelle's body.

Also, if this is a business computer owned by either Jason or ChartOne, there would be confidential client information on it. If so, then ChartOne would be the recipient of a warrant to search digital files as those clients would belong to ChartOne, not Jason since he is only an employee.

Samiya,

That's a good point.
Just because the laptop was seized the day of the SUV, doesn't mean LE could open and search the laptop necessarily. LE can do warrantless searches in the case of traffic stops, etc. due to safety issues. This would have been impounding due to collection of evidence, so a different scenario. Therefore, they did not have legal authority to search all contents. The laptop could have been sitting in impound until the proper owner's gave permission to search it. Knowing it had company info on it, and since it's medical related, I'm sure ChartOne had their lawyers all over that. Hence, much of the delay. JMO.
 
  • #257
Samiya said:
Or not long before Chelle's murder?

Weird that the reporter would slip in a comment about MM though..so I wonder if his will has been changed recently..maybe he changed his will so that if anything happened to him, guardianship of Cassidy would go to MM if Chelle is also not alive....she may be Cassidy's godmother.

Not sure about over there but over here, godparents must be willing to take on a child if something happens to the parents before the child is 18....although the grandparents usually intervene to fight over the child anyway so I don't know why some folks bother, lol.

Lots of things I could speculate on here....and Scandi, your thoughts, although scares me to death on Cassidy's behalf, make total sense :(

RC LOL I must have Plumbzeimers
That would expalin the strawberry shortcake sheets wouldn't it. :crazy:

As far as I can see - I don't know this has anything to do with a change in insurance but if MY's will was changed to leave everything to Cassidy after the May accident - it would be no wonder LE would go back and look at that again rather closely. I'm thinking it is more possible MY's will was changed rather than JYs and JY was left out, especially if anything happened to Cassidy. JMO


ETA - wouldn't you agree this is why Cassidy was left alive and that MF was sent to get an fpo - to secure the baby? Makes sense to me.
 
  • #258
OK, it probably isn't much and I don't even know if this is the original article I read, but here's the link and excerpt that said JY was with family when MY was found dead....

http://rdu.news14.com/content/your_news/triangle/?SecID=512&ArID=94213

"Young says he was with his family in the western part of the state when his wife's body was found inside their home by her sister, Meredith Fisher. The couple's 2-year-old daughter was found inside the home at the time; she was unharmed."

:confused:
 
  • #259
panthera said:
I heard "daddy" also, but couldn't discern the rest of the "context". At age 2, she certainly can't sit down with LE and give them a coherant statement which could be taken as an eyewitness account, so the police would need to build their case on other evidence.
Not to nitpick here :blowkiss: but didn't we discover she was closer to 3 yrs old? (FYI)

I know, she's still a small child, but she seemed rather talkative! (Yes, yes I know she won't be up on the stand etc)
 
  • #260
Michele could have made Cassidy the beneficiary of her insurance with Meredith or her mother as executer for that to be held in trust for her till she is of age. I had mine set up that way for my daughters with my brother as executer. Could also explain the trouble started about Meredith to make her seem untrustworthy, something to that. In a murder case such as this if Cassidy is the beneficiary then I don't see a hold up with paying it out.
 
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