Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 8

[otto]

I've got it on also. Distaso was a great prosecutor, I agree.

I'm guessing that because the case is still open under appeal, the prosecutor's office can't comment. Sharon looks to be doing well. I'm wayyyyyyyyyy off topic.

 

[raisincharlie]

The Cold Steel website:


http://www.coldsteel.com/recon1.html

 

[j2mirish]

The Cold Steel website:


http://www.coldsteel.com/recon1.html

I hate to admitt this--- but there has been so very little info---I could not remember correctly- but there has been no indication of a stabbing, blunt force trauma has been the little info given ( if i am correct ) --- so why the knife?

do you think that was going to be the murder weapon rc?

 

[scandi]

I've got it on also. Distaso was a great prosecutor, I agree.

Goodness sakes alive, remember when we had all those doubts about him, how he was kind of meek and mild and he surely had no charisma like Geragross. LOL We pined away here, so worried, and then suddenly this guy who we thought was milk toast simply blossomed into a very sure and strong Prosecutor with a capitol P, giving a closing statement we just could not believe came out of the guys mouth.

And it was then that we realized he had everything together in his plan - his basic and simple schematic, and he has been revered in our hearts since that day. Like the finale in a great opera, he did save the day.

To save myself from my OT LOL, I think we will revere this prosecutor as well. Whomever killed Michelle will be prosecuted by her, and she is passionate. Her drive for justice for this pathetic and senseless crime against Michelle will certainly mount and rise above any cleverness of the Defense. I just feel that in my heart.

Bring it on! Scandi

 

[jilly]

Studying more on locations:


Jy leaves home 8:30, fills up SUV drives 84 miles to Danville VA - arrives approxiately 10:30 to 11 pm - calls wife at 11 pm.

Fight insues - JY leaves hotel in Danville - drives 84 niles to Raleigh (total 169 miles) arrive approxiately 0130 on 3 Nov. Fights with wife, murders her, cleans up and leaves to return to Danville 84 miles (total 253 miles) arrives approximately 0530 to 0600.

Sleeps or whatever for two hours - checks out and drives to Blacksburg VA from Danville 91 miles (total 344 miles) arrives 0930-1000. Attends meeting and leaves fro Brevard. Stops for gas in Duffield 30 miles (total 374 miles) approximately noon.

Fills up and drives to Brevard approximately 140 miles, arrives approximately 3 pm. Returns to Raleigh, 282 miles.

Explorer - approximately 420 miles / 21 gallon tank - could be a cash purchase of gas in Brevard before returning.


Holy cow - do some of these times add up or is it my imagination?

Holy cow is right RC!

If you've nailed this then imo there's something fishy about this trip. He drives 84 miles to a hotel. Normally, that would take someone driving at 60 mph just over an hour. Mr. Leadfoot could probably make it in 45-50 min. Who would get a hotel in Danville when the total drive to Blacksburg from Raleigh is only 175 miles (3 hrs normally or 2 1/2 hrs for Mr Leadfoot.)

My ex husband was a salesman and he would either drive to his destination at nite so as to get a good nite's rest or start out very early in the morning to beat the traffic.

It just seems very odd to me to drive 84 miles - I mean you're in the car for such a short time why not just keep going? Why did he need that hotel?

 

[otto]

I've been reading a little about the Janet Araboa case and there are few similarities except that a young, athletic, pregnant mom is murdered for no apparent reason and there is one young child that survives.

We've all heard about prostitute murders, but it would be really different if there was some crazy targeting young pregnant mothers. Still, these "non-random" murders don't seem to have a quick resolution.

 

[raisincharlie]

I hate to admitt this--- but there has been so very little info---I could not remember correctly- but there has been no indication of a stabbing, blunt force trauma has been the little info given ( if i am correct ) --- so why the knife?

do you think that was going to be the murder weapon rc?

Good evening j2mirish

The knife, unfortunately no model numder is given, was reported in the search warrant for the SUV. I just got curious about it. The thing about this warrant is it does not give locations for where items were found. The knife just struck me as something one would not want out in the open in a vehicle, especially one that might transport a child at some time.

There is the rumor floating about that "something" was done to MY. Do I think it is the murder weapon - no, I really don't. But if the autopsy comes back saying there was a wound inflicted by a knife, I might think something of it then.

 

[raisincharlie]

Holy cow is right RC!

If you've nailed this then imo there's something fishy about this trip. He drives 84 miles to a hotel. Normally, that would take someone driving at 60 mph just over an hour. Mr. Leadfoot could probably make it in 45-50 min. Who would get a hotel in Danville when the total drive to Blacksburg from Raleigh is only 175 miles (3 hrs normally or 2 1/2 hrs for Mr Leadfoot.)

My ex husband was a salesman and he would either drive to his destination at nite so as to get a good nite's rest or start out very early in the morning to beat the traffic.

It just seems very odd to me to drive 84 miles - I mean you're in the car for such a short time why not just keep going? Why did he need that hotel?

Jilly,

Don't take that real serious. I was thinking about Fussell blabbing that JY said he left Thursday nite to get a head start. Thinking about that I looked for a stop point that would allow for a return to Raleigh between 12 and 6 working on the assumption JY was headed to western VA. This fit - so IF that hotel receipt is for the Hampton Inn in Danville - he could have had time to murder his wife and still made a meeting with time left over. Just seeing if it is possible. Based on the receipts and locations - I was amazed how the time worked out. More than likely I am very far away from the reality - but the possibility exists.

 

[j2mirish]

Good evening j2mirish

The knife, unfortunately no model numder is given, was reported in the search warrant for the SUV. I just got curious about it. The thing about this warrant is it does not given locations for where items were found. The knife just struck me as something one would not want out in the open in a vehicle, especially one that might transport a child at some time.

There is the rumor floating about that "something" was done to MY. Do I think it is the murder weapon - no, I really don't. But if the autopsy comes back saying there was a wound inflicted by a knife, I might think something of it then.

I always find it so unbelievable, that these idiots just leave things "laying" around- we have hotel receipts, knives, and a gas receipt- cell phones--- if jy did it--- I think just like sp, they deserve more than the worst, just for being so fricking stupid---------I am not impressed with a " drop" or 2 of blood if it is hers-- maybe not even his, since it is in their car---
I NEED some more info from LE !!!!!!!!!!!! the speculation just goes from one end to another, and sometimes I think is right on track, then gets so blown ou t of porportion, that I forget what i was thinking to begin with -- and--- good evening to you too-

 

[raisincharlie]

:laugh:

I always find it so unbelievable, that these idiots just leave things "laying" around- we have hotel receipts, knives, and a gas receipt- cell phones--- if jy did it--- I think just like sp, they deserve more than the worst, just for being so fricking stupid---------I am not impressed with a " drop" or 2 of blood if it is hers-- maybe not even his, since it is in their car---
I NEED some more info from LE !!!!!!!!!!!! the speculation just goes from one end to another, and sometimes I think is right on track, then gets so blown ou t of porportion, that I forget what i was thinking to begin with -- and--- good evening to you too-

Sorry, you made me chuckle ! Yes we need much more information. Honestly the only thing that catches my attention about the two drops of whaterever is the consistency of location - the right rear driver's side seat and the right rear driver's side door. I don't think both of these locations can be attributed to Cassidy spilling something or leaking ketchup. Don't mind me, I just like to puzzle with the information we have to see what possibilities exist.:crazy:

 

[jilly]

Jilly,

Don't take that real serious. I was thinking about Fussell blabbing that JY said he left Thursday nite to get a head start. Thinking about that I looked for a stop point that would allow for a return to Raleigh between 12 and 6 working on the assumption JY was headed to western VA. This fit - so IF that hotel receipt is for the Hampton Inn in Danville - he could have had time to murder his wife and still made a meeting with time left over. Just seeing if it is possible. Based on the receipts and locations - I was amazed how the time worked out. More than likely I am very far away from the reality - but the possibility exists.

Oh I agree RC - this is a very good possibility and everything matches up perfectly. I didn't realize that somebody said he got "a head start". Geez...head starts usually relate to more of a journey in my experience anyways.

 

[j2mirish]

:laugh:


Sorry, you made me chuckle ! Yes we need much more information. Honestly the only thing that catches my attention about the two drops of whaterever is the consistency of location - the right rear driver's side seat and the right rear driver's side door. I don't think both of these locations can be attributed to Cassidy spilling something or leaking ketchup. Don't mind me, I just like to puzzle with the information we have to see what possibilities exist.:crazy:

I always mind you- thats why I always try to see where you are going with something ! gllad you got a chuckle on my ramble !
I see a connection to the front and back, but still---- we are talking about a drop---- if he was even slightly injured in his assault on my, dont you think we would be looking at more than a drop to attribute to any kind of "wound"--- in thinking- even a good scratch, doesnt usually bleed--- you know what i mean?

 

[raisincharlie]

I always mind you- thats why I always try to see where you are going with something ! gllad you got a chuckle on my ramble !
I see a connection to the front and back, but still---- we are talking about a drop---- if he was even slightly injured in his assault on my, dont you think we would be looking at more than a drop to attribute to any kind of "wound"--- in thinking- even a good scratch, doesnt usually bleed--- you know what i mean?

I do know what you mean and honestly this would likely be a question better addressed to Sami perhaps. My understanding of blood drops and spatter and all that sort of stuff is very very minimal. I've read lots of Scandi's posts where some killers have very little blood on them and others are covered - it all confuses me.

I meant no disrespect with my chuckle - it was just very cute how you put it!:truce:

 

[scandi]

Do we know that knife was out in the open in the car Charlie? It could have been in the glove compartment or the cabunkle {sp} inbetween the driver and front seat passenger's seat.

I would expect him to put that in the sack with the bloody clothes or whatever he was wearing when she was attacked.

As a referance point, in sinking Laci in water,even though she was wrapped we believe, he didn't want a chance of the baby slipping out of her and being found in SF Bay as it would have nailed him. Many of us believe that he poured the left over slag of concrete over her upper leg and groin area to seal the birth canal, keeping Conner inside of her. Hence the formation of the Mineralized little rocks that formed in that location on the strings of her pants.

If JY was the perp he could have made a statement about not wanting another baby which would really tie him down into a life style he didn't want anymore. That is why I thought he bashed the photos with the back of his hand to just show her how he felt.

But if the 'insider' is correct and he did something to her body, I could see him stabbing her belly. Wash the knife off and dry it, put it back in the car as it might have been a cool boy toy knife he really liked and didn't want to part with. I know he was very smart, but did he know that much about forensics to realize that blood would still show up if it was tested?

 

[fran]

I've been reading a little about the Janet Araboa case and there are few similarities except that a young, athletic, pregnant mom is murdered for no apparent reason and there is one young child that survives.

We've all heard about prostitute murders, but it would be really different if there was some crazy targeting young pregnant mothers. Still, these "non-random" murders don't seem to have a quick resolution.

FWIW, your theory of someone targeting young prenant mothers might work except no one knew Janet was pregnant, she'd just found out. So, she wasn't showing or anything. It wasn't even reported in the press until months after her murder, IIRC.

JMHO
fran

 

[raisincharlie]

Do we know that knife was out in the open in the car Charlie? It could have been in the glove compartment or the cabunkle {sp} inbetween the driver and front seat passenger's seat.

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But if the 'insider' is correct and he did something to her body, I could see him stabbing her belly. Wash the knife off and dry it, put it back in the car as it might have been a cool boy toy knife he really liked and didn't want to part with. I know he was very smart, but did he know that much about forensics to realize that blood would still show up if it was tested?

Scandi,

The warrant did not define the location of the items, whether they were in something inside the vehicle or if they were just in the vehicle. As to the knife - recall Dyleski's knife - it was alluded to at trial that it was the knife that caused the wound to Pamela and most likely used for the carving - however her DNA was not found inside the area where the blade would fold into- the knife was pretty clean in terms of DNA. Parting with a good knife is hard, good boy toys as you say.

 

[scandi]

just had to pop in and say Hi Fran

If the knife was in a compartment in the car, can the police open it and discover a knife and then write it into a warrant?

 

[j2mirish]

I do know what you mean and honestly this would likely be a question better addressed to Sami perhaps. My understanding of blood drops and spatter and all that sort of stuff is very very minimal. I've read lots of Scandi's posts where some killers have very little blood on them and others are covered - it all confuses me.

I meant no disrespect with my chuckle - it was just very cute how you put it!:truce:

there was no disrespect taken--- at all--- I meant when I said I was gald you got a chuckle out of my ranting frustration!!!! :blowkiss:

 

[raisincharlie]

just had to pop in and say Hi Fran

If the knife was in a compartment in the car, can the police open it and discover a knife and then write it into a warrant?

Scandi,

If the knife was in a compartment - no the police cannot open it , see the knife, and then use that as probable cause. If the knife is laying out in the open and easily visible, there really is no expectation of privacy associated with that - then the knife could be used as probable cause. This warrant for the SUV does not reference the knife in the probable cause section. It is listed only in the inventory section.

 

[raisincharlie]

there was no disrespect taken--- at all--- I meant when I said I was gald you got a chuckle out of my ranting frustration!!!! :blowkiss:

Truth - I'm frustrated as heck with the lack of information too! Given the quietness of the media - I am amazingly shocked they are actually linking the warrants for public consumption. But I have resigned myself to wanting a really good investigation, even if it takes a while, so that who ever did this is held 100% accountable and justice is fulfilled for MY and her unborn child.

:blowkiss: back at ya !