Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 2

[pack_fan]

We're not really hearing much information. Is it possible that he is cooperating or has given a statement and we just don't know??? Did I miss somewhere where it was said that he is not cooperating?? All these posts its possible that I missed that one stating that LE stated he's not cooperating. This is driving me CRAZY!!!

No official statement on him cooperating but Greta interviewed the Wake county sheriff last night and when asked it took him a looooooonnnnnngggg time to say anything. Lots of speculation on that. Seemed like he was saying a lot with his reactions despite what was coming out of his mouth. Here's a link to the video. http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

Close, I agree. The fact that he "lawyered up" doesn't bother me at all especially since the duke case has been going on 20 miles down the road. We all know what a mess that is. And I wouldn't be surprised if he waited until after the funeral to grieve and have a chance to talk to the lawyer about his side of the story. But, Michelle has been dead for two weeks now. I wouldn't want LE putting my timeline together without my input. This makes me worry.

 

[close_enough]

I think I tend to lean towards the money factor. If rather large insurance policies exist, if the home is paid off in the event of death of the spouse, all "ifs" but another woman didn't even cross my mind. And you are right, it's possible.

From reading here, Michelle comes across to be a very efficient, well liked woman and she was well trained in money- I wonder if "restraints" on spending or family life could push Jason "over the edge"? Was there pressure on the marriage, not from gambling or other stuff, but just from responsibility in general? Was Jason a person who could get overwhelmed? So much beneath the surface of people!

http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html

Jason Young bloomed late, and it took him awhile to settle on the idea of marriage, Fussell said. Michelle, as usual, knew just what she wanted. Family was at the top of the list, Fussell said.

"overwhelmed" & "responsibility in general" is very possible, imo.....

 

[MrsMush99]

Pack, thanks for the link but I've already tried it and I can't view it. It's making me crazy.

 

[close_enough]

No official statement on him cooperating but Greta interviewed the Wake county sheriff last night and when asked it took him a looooooonnnnnngggg time to say anything. Lots of speculation on that. Seemed like he was saying a lot with his reactions despite what was coming out of his mouth. Here's a link to the video. http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

Close, I agree. The fact that he "lawyered up" doesn't bother me at all especially since the duke case has been going on 20 miles down the road. We all know what a mess that is. And I wouldn't be surprised if he waited until after the funeral to grieve and have a chance to talk to the lawyer about his side of the story. But, Michelle has been dead for two weeks now. I wouldn't want LE putting my timeline together without my input. This makes me worry.

right Pack....it's like he's just letting LE figure it all out???...strange, indeed

 

[MrsMush99]

Apparently the cookies are blocked for the video. Does anyone know how I can unblock them?

 

[strach304]

The location of the business meeting was important to me and I'm satisfied that it was Va. just need to know where exactly. We now have to look at the trip to visit family from a different perspective because we were considering it was scheduled because the meeting was taking him to that area. I'm very sure in the initial reports it was reported to be a weekend visit not just a stopover to say hi for a couple of hours and leave.

I'm back on that fax thing again now because the purse for a three year anniversary gift story is out the window. That's a very detailed story from a friend of Jason's that can't possibly be right from what we now know. Very bizzarre imo info being circulated. Lot of similarities to the LP case I agree right down to the salesman starting a new job detail.

I did find it informative that Wake County has had 23 murders, Michele being the 22nd. five unsolved. As for those complaining about references being made to the trailer park I want to clarify my angle on that. When the neighbor was brought up there were then stories circulating on other forums about him and his friend from the trailer park and conversation on the 15 year old was shut down so we never heard more on that and some here even seemed to get offended for considering the 15 year old although I don't know why. The trailers may be rentals plus you'd have various people visiting those trailers etc. so imo no difference there than if it were say an apartment complex right behind their property being pointed out. People just speculating on if non residents could've been in the neighborhood, etc.

 

[raisincharlie]

I'm kind of on the fence with him hiring a lawyer. On the one hand it does make him look bad. On the other hand, he has a right to have his rights protected. That's a right we have as Americans. I think it's kind of wrong to say something is wrong if a person hires an attorney. Right away it's "he must be guilty" but may it's just because they don't trust LE.

I think that is one of the problems here - one of the news articles quotes McIntyre - JY's step dad in a manner that clearly indicates he has no trust in LE and stating that LE would not be honest with him. If that is the feeling - I can both understand it and accept it. However, when the lawyer is acting as an obstructionist then I have to think about it a bit.

Since the lawyer in this case also represents Collin Finnerty - I admit I have to wonder why it was okay for Collin Finnerty to make public statements and make an effort to speak with both police and the DA - but it is not okay for Jason Young. A lawyer can protect his client's rights as easily when cooperating with LE as he can when obstructing LE - seems to me forcing LE to hunt for answers is opening a door that is often regretted. His wife and unborn son are dead, his daughter could have been dead, and he is silent and not speaking with LE or the DA - both of whom are as obligated to help him as they are to check him out.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Pack, thanks for the link but I've already tried it and I can't view it. It's making me crazy.

MrsMush99, the interview was a good one- but don't let it make you crazy! LOL! The sherriff was standing in the interview and looked comfortable enough with Greta (he didn't outright shy away nor did he seem aggrivated when she kind of tried to draw him out). Greta asked him some of the questions she'd recieved by email and the sherriff didn't flinch or squirm, he was very "considerate" in his wording. He didn't give her the runaround. He didn't say that Jason was a suspect, he said that they spoke to Jason briefly. On a couple of topics Greta brought up, he respectfully declined to answer. Very professional (I thought). I think I felt during the interview that his "playing it close to the vest" made it seem as though he has a good idea of what happened but is also waiting for a timeline to be confirmed before anything happens. I can't explain it any better than this- sorry!

 

[otto]

From the scale of the aerial - the trailer park is approximately 250 yards west of the young property - and it is visible on the aerial as are the trees in between the properties. Additionally TopSail provided a link to the Assessors web site - you click on other properties and it will list out for you names, addresses, and structures. There definitely is a trailer park in the vicinity - but for the life of me I'm not sure why that matters unless one automatically assumes trailer park people are the cause for all our ills and crimes, which is what the "friends" are attempting to imply.

Maybe this will help you to see the trailers:

http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=10&Z=17&X=3539&Y=19767&W=1&qs=5108+Birchleaf+Drive%7cRaleigh%7cNC%7c&Addr=5108+Birchleaf+Dr%2c+Raleigh%2c+NC+27606-9360&ALon=-78.6999990&ALat=35.7051710

The red marker is actually 2 houses north of the Young home - look directly to the west of the Young home you can see the trailer park. If you click on the picture over the trailer park it will zoom in for you to get a closer look. I myself would not call this a trailer park but rather lots with individual trailers .

Thank you for the link ... I'm still zooming and looking around. I definitely stand correctly on the business trip to VA because that was in the latest news report.

I see what you mean about SW of the house ... trailers. I was looking to the East. I think the suggestion was that Jason had argued with someone from the trailers. It does seem like a bit of distance between the house and the trailers, but maybe it's true.

 

[pack_fan]

I think I tend to lean towards the money factor. If rather large insurance policies exist, if the home is paid off in the event of death of the spouse, all "ifs" but another woman didn't even cross my mind. And you are right, it's possible.

From reading here, Michelle comes across to be a very efficient, well liked woman and she was well trained in money- I wonder if "restraints" on spending or family life could push Jason "over the edge"? Was there pressure on the marriage, not from gambling or other stuff, but just from responsibility in general? Was Jason a person who could get overwhelmed? So much beneath the surface of people!

A large insurance policy as motive does not seem to me likely in this case. I know it is a factor in a lot of cases but I'm not convinced in this one.

They had rental property. If money was an issue and the both knew it, they
had a property that they could sell for extra cash. The only possible reasoning I could see if money was the issue was if he was doing something behind her back and got into trouble (gambling). I don't give the gambling issue much weight, no where has it been reported, I tend to believe that this is a rumor, imo.

There was a report earlier (can't remember the link, I'll find it shortly and post) that stated she was considering cutting her hours back at work to spend more time with Cassidy and the new baby. I don't think she would do this if they were having money problems.

I also suspect that considering her job, imo that she probably took care of the money. I think she would know if they were having money problems unless the gambling could possibly be true.

She was very smart, I would guess that her insurance policy is large. She knew that if something were to happen to her, she would want to pay off the house(es), leave money for Cassidy and basically leave the family debt free. Any good financial advisor would tell you the same thing.

It would be a more likely motive of affair in my opinion.

I know I am 12 posts behind, I type so slowlyyyyyyyyy.

 

[pack_fan]

http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html

Jason Young bloomed late, and it took him awhile to settle on the idea of marriage, Fussell said. Michelle, as usual, knew just what she wanted. Family was at the top of the list, Fussell said.

"overwhelmed" & "responsibility in general" is very possible, imo.....

That's the link I was looking for to support the fact that she was thinking about cutting her hours at work.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

The location of the business meeting was important to me and I'm satisfied that it was Va. just need to know where exactly. We now have to look at the trip to visit family from a different perspective because we were considering it was scheduled because the meeting was taking him to that area. I'm very sure in the initial reports it was reported to be a weekend visit not just a stopover to say hi for a couple of hours and leave.

I'm back on that fax thing again now because the purse for a three year anniversary gift story is out the window. That's a very detailed story from a friend of Jason's that can't possibly be right from what we now know. Very bizzarre imo info being circulated. Lot of similarities to the LP case I agree right down to the salesman starting a new job detail.

I did find it informative that Wake County has had 23 murders, Michele being the 22nd. five unsolved. As for those complaining about references being made to the trailer park I want to clarify my angle on that. When the neighbor was brought up there were then stories circulating on other forums about him and his friend from the trailer park and conversation on the 15 year old was shut down so we never heard more on that and some here even seemed to get offended for considering the 15 year old although I don't know why. The trailers may be rentals plus you'd have various people visiting those trailers etc. so imo no difference there than if it were say an apartment complex right behind their property being pointed out. People just speculating on if non residents could've been in the neighborhood, etc.

I complained about the trailer park and the 15 yr old. I understand the rental thing as per the trailer park and wasn't trying to spark a controversy- I don't know why it bugs me- I think stereotyping gets me. The 15 year old was kind of being chastised for "odd" behavior and that just didn't seem enough for the "accusations" on the other board about him. I'm sorry if I offended you. I understand the speculations- as I am doing that here. (I think I "work" from the inside out and sometimes don't look far enough outside the box...)

 

[raisincharlie]

The location of the business meeting was important to me and I'm satisfied that it was Va. just need to know where exactly. We now have to look at the trip to visit family from a different perspective because we were considering it was scheduled because the meeting was taking him to that area. I'm very sure in the initial reports it was reported to be a weekend visit not just a stopover to say hi for a couple of hours and leave.

I'm back on that fax thing again now because the purse for a three year anniversary gift story is out the window. That's a very detailed story from a friend of Jason's that can't possibly be right from what we now know. Very bizzarre imo info being circulated. Lot of similarities to the LP case I agree right down to the salesman starting a new job detail.

I did find it informative that Wake County has had 23 murders, Michele being the 22nd. five unsolved. As for those complaining about references being made to the trailer park I want to clarify my angle on that. When the neighbor was brought up there were then stories circulating on other forums about him and his friend from the trailer park and conversation on the 15 year old was shut down so we never heard more on that and some here even seemed to get offended for considering the 15 year old although I don't know why. The trailers may be rentals plus you'd have various people visiting those trailers etc. so imo no difference there than if it were say an apartment complex right behind their property being pointed out. People just speculating on if non residents could've been in the neighborhood, etc.

Strach,

I can only speak for myself - I did not find your reference to either the trailer issue or the 15 year old as offensive. What I found offensive was the way the "friends" were speaking to the issue of the trailers and "trailer park people". It was pretty obvious they were implying unsavory things.

We have talked a bit about time lines - so now we know that JY said he was in VA. One thing I did want to point out - if you listen to Greta's interview with the Wake County Sheriff - when Greta asks him about speaking with JY - the Sheriff says they spoke to him briefly Friday afternoon - so all my figuring is pretty worthless. It is not clear if they spoke face to face or by phone link so...I give. But it seems to me - if he was in VA - he could have had time to return to NC before that meeting and the visit with the folks was not made out of a convenient location of the meeting to the folks, which makes it all the more suspect to me. JMO. Interested in your take.

 

[close_enough]

Apparently the cookies are blocked for the video. Does anyone know how I can unblock them?

Mushy...sorry to say, i know nothing about all that kind of stuff....wish i could help ya out....

oh myyyyy...i'm going to 'clear my head' for a bit, turn on some music, & pick up around the house a bit....i'll be back though

 

[Bee Charmer]

If it is true that Michelle fought for her life, then
perhaps there is dna or other evidence under her nails or
on her body from the murderer. I wonder if the non-testimonial
court order for Jason, included an inspection and/or photos of
his body?

 

[raisincharlie]

Thank you for the link ... I'm still zooming and looking around. I definitely stand correctly on the business trip to VA because that was in the latest news report.

I see what you mean about SW of the house ... trailers. I was looking to the East. I think the suggestion was that Jason had argued with someone from the trailers. It does seem like a bit of distance between the house and the trailers, but maybe it's true.

Glad you found it ! On one of the boards someone indicated that the Youngs had called the police as they heard a loud argument going on in the woods - again that was another board and certainly unsubstantiated at this point - but it could be. In Greta's interview with the sheriff - he said it is a quiet neighborhood with no problems however.

I did see that article where Fussell said Jason had said his meeting was in VA, so at least if this guy told the reporter the truth of what he heard, it is reasonable to assume Jason was in VA for a meeting. Something to work with but still a good drive from his folks.

 

[pack_fan]

Apparently the cookies are blocked for the video. Does anyone know how I can unblock them?

Try this, go to the top of your screen to the tools folder, go down and click on "internet options".

This will open a new screen. Click on the tab that say privacy. There will be a sliding bar on the left side which tells you your level of security. If you slide the bar all the way to the bottom, it changes to accept all cookies. This should work if you are using internet explorer.

Let me know if this works and be sure to change your settings back after viewing the video.

 

[Taximom]

Anyone here know Jason's middle name or initial?

 

[MrsMush99]

Try this, go to the top of your screen to the tools folder, go down and click on "internet options".

This will open a new screen. Click on the tab that say privacy. There will be a sliding bar on the left side which tells you your level of security. If you slide the bar all the way to the bottom, it changes to accept all cookies. This should work if you are using internet explorer.

Let me know if this works and be sure to change your settings back after viewing the video.

No It did not work. I tried all that stuff already, but it keeps coming up blocked. Thanks for trying to help though.

 

[otto]

Apparently the cookies are blocked for the video. Does anyone know how I can unblock them?

Try clicking on the "tools" option on your top task bar. Go to "internet options", click on "privacy", at the bottom of the open window click "edit" you can enter a website that you will accept cookies from.

Try that and see if it works.