Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 3

[PolkSaladAnnie]

After just skimming the board over there two things that jumped out at me that are imo misinformation, being repeated inaccurately or whatever is the friend with the dogs who kept barking at something out in the yard was not at Michele's house on the day she was killed according to the original post, it was a few days before possibly even a week from what I remember.

Another poster has said something about Michele not being killed in the room she was attacked in. Now where did that come from? :waitasec:

Strach, I've read those things, too. It's completely confusing. Unlike other posters (here or at CTV), we speculate and give theories, we wonder - work it out together.

These posters are coming in and TELLING us what THEY WANT us to think, believe, know, accept. None of it is founded; and these 'new thoughts' are increasing the longer Jason stays quiet. Some of it may/may not have some seeds of truth in it - but really, as others have said: all speculation; nothing founded. LE are tight-lipped; Jason's tight-lipped; ditto media. So there is a '2 sided camp' going on, IMOO.

BTW, other websites and blogs have stopped responding (having posted same thoughts and comments) - however it truly seems CTV believe each and every post.

If it's true - I'll personally wait for LE/Media to say as much - but there is alot coming out over there, lol...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

So like me, you were relying on our good friends here to pipe up with some news? at least i didn't wait up all night as you did. i was hoping to catch something on awakening. poor you. we now know to neither stay up nor awaken early for either NG or GVS shows, huh?

this case has me pinned to the wall. i so hope Michelle Young gets justice - and soon! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

p.s. ja. i'm stuck with CNN International, too. YAWN.

p.p.ps. and you can stuff Larry Walking Dead, as far as information goes. :bang:

LOL!!!! We're in the same boat - just different captains, Floh! I know, I know ... but so LITTLE has been released aside from 'insider info' that's more and more confusing, lol...

Larry? Oh boy - er, no ... thanks

 

[scandi]

After just skimming the board over there two things that jumped out at me that are imo misinformation, being repeated inaccurately or whatever is the friend with the dogs who kept barking at something out in the yard was not at Michele's house on the day she was killed according to the original post, it was a few days before possibly even a week from what I remember.

Another poster has said something about Michele not being killed in the room she was attacked in. Now where did that come from? :waitasec:

I noticed that too. In fact when I read the statement about her not being found in the room she was attacked in {that is what I think was said} I went
. I have never heard that before anywhere in all the reading I have done. It was definately slipped in there to just be absorbed into our thinking. Pretty sneaky I think, as it was so blatent. A big red flag! I don't remember if I looked to see if it was a newbie or not who said that, but I've read these posters with their inside info are copy and pasting the same info onto several boards.

I found the post from the friend of Michelle's with the 2 dogs which was on either page 15 or 16 of the CTV thread and then it was just pulled up and referenced as coming from another board. Exactly the same thing.

Scandi

 

[raisincharlie]

After just skimming the board over there two things that jumped out at me that are imo misinformation, being repeated inaccurately or whatever is the friend with the dogs who kept barking at something out in the yard was not at Michele's house on the day she was killed according to the original post, it was a few days before possibly even a week from what I remember.

Another poster has said something about Michele not being killed in the room she was attacked in. Now where did that come from? :waitasec:

Strach

I'm wondering why they can't think about what they type before they do it since they are defending JY. Because some of their statements IMO tend to show him as a jerk a best and allow for him to be included as a possible suspect instead of excluding him.

i.e.

There was a friend over to watch Grey's Anatomy which comes on at 9pm. The friend saw Jason leave. The friend left at 10:30 pm, JY called Michelle at 11 pm.

Well duh - if he left when the friend was there and called an hour after the show - how far away could he have gotten in a couple or three hours ? If he only traveled 3 hours away is it not possible he could have came back and still made his meeting the next day seeing as how, being kind, 11 to 7 am is 8 hours?

And I am really sure this person was worried about being watched with "McDreamy's" face up there on the tv screen - right lady, when pigs fly.

The whole fax thing and anniversary present to me is silly. If you are going to look at presents and have someone help you decide, wouldn't you want it to be in color - really color would be important for a lot of presents. Who the heck has a color fax machine ? Wait, it was a print out. So now we could have color. Who gives a rats behind about it really. If it was an anniversary present, he was late seeing as how the anniversary would have been in October. Not unusual, but if you're late, why worry about the present being a surprise? The surprise won't make amends for the fact you were an idiot in the first place !

On top of that who really does care - fax or print out - if it exists does that mean he could not have killed his wife?

I need to stop.

 

[scandi]

Another thought came to me and I'm just posting it as food for thought, OK

Assuming this murder took place in the wee hours of the morning, I would still thing the perp would be concerned about noise. Just the attack alone would wake Cassidy and of course she would start crying, the dog would start barking and run up to defend his mistress and attack the assailant. It could be he closed Cassidy's door before he went towards Michelle and then opened it when he left. What about the dog? This dog was the ringbearer at their wedding, but still think he would go crazy if anyone was hurting Michelle, even if he were secured downstairs.

We haven't even heard if the neighbors heard anything.

Has anyone checked the Raleigh newspaper to see if there is any coverage there?

Scandi

 

[raisincharlie]

Another thought came to me and I'm just posting it as food for thought, OK

Assuming this murder took place in the wee hours of the orning, I would still thing the perp would be concerned about noise. Just the attack alone would wake Cassidy and of course she would start crying, the dog would start barking and run up to defend his mistress and attack the assailant. It could be he closed Cassidy's door before he went towards Michelle and then opened it when he left. What about the dog? This dog was the ringbearer at their wedding, but still think he would go crazy if anyone was hurting Michelle, even if he were secured downstairs.

We haven't even heard if the neighbors heard anything.

Has anyone checked the Raleigh newspaper to see if there is any coverage there?

Scandi

A salient point about the dog - the dog was reported by Meredith in the 911 tape to be freaking out - wonder how come the neighbors didn't realize that before Meredith got there ? Food for thought back at ya !

 

[Taximom]

Another thought came to me and I'm just posting it as food for thought, OK

Assuming this murder took place in the wee hours of the orning, I would still thing the perp would be concerned about noise. Just the attack alone would wake Cassidy and of course she would start crying, the dog would start barking and run up to defend his mistress and attack the assailant. It could be he closed Cassidy's door before he went towards Michelle and then opened it when he left. What about the dog? This dog was the ringbearer at their wedding, but still think he would go crazy if anyone was hurting Michelle, even if he were secured downstairs.

We haven't even heard if the neighbors heard anything.

Has anyone checked the Raleigh newspaper to see if there is any coverage there?

Scandi

Scandi, good thought. How long was that dog "freaking out"? I thought the neighbors were quite far apart but have since discovered otherwise. Besides that, if it was a relatively quiet neighborhood without a lot of street traffic even at night...that dog barking could have been heard very easily.

I hope LE, as someone else mentioned many comments ago, checked out the dog for possible dna evidence.

 

[raisincharlie]

Food Fight


If Michelle were on the bed, why did Meredith ask Cassidy if her Mom fell ?

Just heard this part again - have to wonder.

 

[scandi]

The other thought I have Charlie is about potential marks on Jason's body. LE talked to him on the 3rd, and as of Greta's show on the 17th the Sheriff confirmed that was the extent of it. So 2 weeks went by, and that would be time for wounds or bruises to heal. I don't know what day the warrant was executed, but on that day would they have made him strip to check for 'boo-boos?

Scandi

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Hi charlie... I hear you loud/clear. I thought exactly the same thing when I read that *half hour* window frame. On top of which, if JY is going to come in and chat to LE - and these friends (so called) are busy defending him over the Internet, well, they're NOT friends, imo. They may be blowing critical information or damaging his image, as you stated. Quite honestly I feel they're also insulting and deepening wounds in Michelle's family. Forgive me but it's like, well the media are not saying anything - so let's take XYZ as fact and get into this...

This is a murder - not some argument over a guy who ditched his date the night of the prom.

What flumoxes me, and I add this with respect of CTV's posters, is the amazing 'command performance' the 'insiders' have over there. Newbies (which is no problem, great on any site) that have instantly locked silver rings in the noses of so many very well known, sharp, solid 'voices' and leading them around Jason's rock solid alibi. I've honestly never seen this much activity from an involved party on these boards! Not sure if the regular posters feel it's all 100% gospel, friends of family, the 'inside scoop' or what. Maybe it is - however I feel this will be one major 360 degree circuit - and everyone will be back to square one sooner or later. MOO

Anyway, just my 2 cents. I guess I just don't have the energy to take it all on board only to know that most of it is going to be jettisoned sooner or later...

Makes me wanna check out for a while until something comes in, lol - however I've so enjoyed participating in these 3 threads thus far

HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING, everyone. Save a Turkey sandwich for me, lol! Be blessed, stay safe, travel well, don't over indulge (lol) an spread the love!

PM me if there's breaking news! Seems PSA's green light won't go off when I log out ... anyone else have same thing?

:blowkiss:

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

The other thought I have Charlie is about potential marks on Jason's body. LE talked to him on the 3rd, and as of Greta's show on the 17th the Sheriff confirmed that was the extent of it. So 2 weeks went by, and that would be time for wounds or bruises to heal. I don't know what day the warrant was executed, but on that day would they have made him strip to check for 'boo-boos?

Scandi

Hi Scandi!

Oooh, yes - I'll bet that Turkey sandwich he had body-shots and they checked for defense wounds!

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Food Fight


If Michelle were on the bed, why did Meredith ask Cassidy if her Mom fell ?
Just heard this part again - have to wonder.

There you go!

 

[MrsMush99]

Scandi, good thought. How long was that dog "freaking out"? I thought the neighbors were quite far apart but have since discovered otherwise. Besides that, if it was a relatively quiet neighborhood without a lot of street traffic even at night...that dog barking could have been heard very easily.

I hope LE, as someone else mentioned many comments ago, checked out the dog for possible dna evidence.

I mentioned that on either the first or second thread. I'm REALLY hoping they do that.

 

[scandi]

You Go Charlie, and keep on chewin'

She had to have said that because it appeared that Michelle had fallen onto the floor, right? She fell on her stomach in kind of a twisted angle, maybe with her arm a bit outstretched behind her which since she was stiff made it impossible to turn her over as requested by the operator! That all fits.

I am going to listen to the tape again - the link in on page 7 here if anyone wants to hear it - but I would swear that Cassidy says Daddy beat, and then is cut off. She was listening very attentively to Meredith, as you hear her little OK when she is asked to go into her room later. I think she was attempting to tell Meredith what she saw happen. She most likely woke up at the first scream, opened her door and saw what was happening. Speculation I know, but reasonable? LOL

Scandi

 

[raisincharlie]

The other thought I have Charlie is about potential marks on Jason's body. LE talked to him on the 3rd, and as of Greta's show on the 17th the Sheriff confirmed that was the extent of it. So 2 weeks went by, and that would be time for wounds or bruises to heal. I don't know what day the warrant was executed, but on that day would they have made him strip to check for 'boo-boos?

Scandi

Scandi,

I don't know but I can't think of any reason why that would be excluded since they were collecting prints and biologicals (DNA) but I can't say for sure.

 

[raisincharlie]

You Go Charlie, and keep on chewin'

She had to have said that because it appeared that Michelle had fallen onto the floor, right? She fell on her stomach in kind of a twisted angle, maybe with her arm a bit outstretched behind her which since she was stiff made it impossible to turn her over as requested by the operator! That all fits.

I am going to listen to the tape again - the link in on page 7 here if anyone wants to hear it - but I would swear that Cassidy says Daddy beat, and then is cut off. She was listening very attentively to Meredith, as you hear her little OK when she is asked to go into her room later. I think she was attempting to tell Meredith what she saw happen. She most likely woke up at the first scream, opened her door and saw what was happening. Speculation I know, but reasonable? LOL

Scandi

I don't know why one would ask about falling if the victim was in the bed in a conventional sense. Meredith also makes no mention of cuts or open wounds in fact she can't quite determine if she is dead or not.

Chewing again...

 

[raisincharlie]

Hi charlie... I hear you loud/clear. I thought exactly the same thing when I read that *half hour* window frame. On top of which, if JY is going to come in and chat to LE - and these friends (so called) are busy defending him over the Internet, well, they're NOT friends, imo. They may be blowing critical information or damaging his image, as you stated. Quite honestly I feel they're also insulting and deepening wounds in Michelle's family. Forgive me but it's like, well the media are not saying anything - so let's take XYZ as fact and get into this...

This is a murder - not some argument over a guy who ditched his date the night of the prom.

What flumoxes me, and I add this with respect of CTV's posters, is the amazing 'command performance' the 'insiders' have over there. Newbies (which is no problem, great on any site) that have instantly locked silver rings in the noses of so many very well known, sharp, solid 'voices' and leading them around Jason's rock solid alibi. I've honestly never seen this much activity from an involved party on these boards! Not sure if the regular posters feel it's all 100% gospel, friends of family, the 'inside scoop' or what. Maybe it is - however I feel this will be one major 360 degree circuit - and everyone will be back to square one sooner or later. MOO

Anyway, just my 2 cents. I guess I just don't have the energy to take it all on board only to know that most of it is going to be jettisoned sooner or later...

Makes me wanna check out for a while until something comes in, lol - however I've so enjoyed participating in these 3 threads thus far

HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING, everyone. Save a Turkey sandwich for me, lol! Be blessed, stay safe, travel well, don't over indulge (lol) an spread the love!

PM me if there's breaking news! Seems PSA's green light won't go off when I log out ... anyone else have same thing?

:blowkiss:

I'll save you a turkey sandwich, a big oh thick ham one too if you wish. Same to you about being careful and have a good holiday PSA, stay safe.

 

[panthera]

I don't know why one would ask about falling if the victim was in the bed in a conventional sense. Meredith also makes no mention of cuts or open wounds in fact she can't quite determine if she is dead or not.

Chewing again...

I have heard the crime scene being described as violent and that Michelle was laying in a pool of blood, and that the little girl had walked through the blood. Michelle was found laying face down, so perhaps Meredith couldn't see her injuries when she first looked at her, as her hair could also have been covering them. Meredith may have not wanted to use the word "dead" in front of Cassidy, and also have asked the child if Michelle had fallen just because of her age and comprehension. On the 911 tape, the little girl can be heard as saying that "mommy had boo-boos" on her.

 

[Taximom]

I have heard the crime scene being described as violent and that Michelle was laying in a pool of blood, and that the little girl had walked through the blood. Michelle was found laying face down, so perhaps Meredith couldn't see her injuries when she first looked at her, as her hair could also have been covering them. Meredith may have not wanted to use the word "dead" in front of Cassidy, and also have asked the child if Michelle had fallen just because of her age and comprehension. On the 911 tape, the little girl can be heard as saying that "mommy had boo-boos" on her.

I knew there was a reason I thought she was on the floor. Between Meredith asking Cassidy if her mommy fell and Cassidy's footprints (thanks raisin) all over...bingo.

I find it hard to believe that if Michelle was in bed that much blood would have gotten on the floor for Cassidy to step in. Oh, the thought.:sick:

If Michelle was in bed, the chances of Cassidy getting her FEET in the blood is kind of impossible to me too. IMHO

We don't know if she died right away. She might have been unconscious, came too, tried to move and then bled to death on the floor. She might have put up a struggle while being attacked and been far away from the bed. I find it hard to believe she was too far from the bed if Meredith had to move a pillow at some point like she said on the 911 call.

 

[leann coburn]

I couldn't understand, other than the obvious shock, why Meredith couldn't quite tell if Michelle was dead. She started the call w/ "I think my sister is dead". The operator asks her to tell why she thinks so and asks her to turn her over. That is about the time that she says "she's cold". When she felt that she was cold and stiff she had to know for sure that she was dead. Yet, she did call out Michelle's name to her before this. I know she was in horrible shock and trying to contain herself for Cassidy's sake. It had to be 100% obvious to her on first sight that Michelle was dead. I think the only explanation is that she didn't want to continue to say it or turn her body over in front of little Cassidy.

IMOO