Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 3

[raisincharlie]

Charlie et al, I thought I read here that the attorney he has hired is not from the same 'Duke' firm, but has the same last name as one of their attorneys. If that is correct, I heartily concur with you. In the post I read about that, they talked how his attorney is really the very silent type that hardly ever says BOO! LOL

I was actually very impressed with the other case out of Raleigh and how it was handled earlier this year. They got their man after saying virtually nothing to the public after the 30 year old Goth guy was finally arrested. They played it close but arrested the right guy when they had a pat casel I think he opted to plead guilty and there was no trial, but he won't ever twist a garotte around a gal's neck again, and that is a very good thing!

I did read a comment somewhere that they thought this Sheriff was in over his head with this case because of all the media preasure that could come to bear. I think they must have been blowing some smoke if it is the same team that nailed the Goth guy. {her name is on the tip of my tongue and I feel awful I can't bring it to mind}

Scandi

Taylor Behl... incredibly sad, way too young.

If I'm incorrect about the lawyer, it still doesn't change my mind. I still believe it is weird that these posters are hitting every forum possible including ones that aren't easy to find. I just find that odd. I'll look for the link about the lawyer but I am pretty sure it noted he was with the firm representing Finnerty.

I'm wondering what media pressure the friends are talking about - seems very quiet to me, Greta left, Nancy G hasn't been there yet...no one camped out. The media is actually extremely quiet about this case.

 

[Floh]

Charlie et al, I thought I read here that the attorney he has hired is not from the same 'Duke' firm, but has the same last name as one of their attorneys. If that is correct, I heartily concur with you. In the post I read about that, they talked how his attorney is really the very silent type that hardly ever says BOO! LOL

I was actually very impressed with the other case out of Raleigh and how it was handled earlier this year. They got their man after saying virtually nothing to the public after the 30 year old Goth guy was finally arrested. They played it close but arrested the right guy when they had a pat casel I think he opted to plead guilty and there was no trial, but he won't ever twist a garotte around a gal's neck again, and that is a very good thing!

I did read a comment somewhere that they thought this Sheriff was in over his head with this case because of all the media preasure that could come to bear. I think they must have been blowing some smoke if it is the same team that nailed the Goth guy. {her name is on the tip of my tongue and I feel awful I can't bring it to mind}

Scandi

Stephanie Renee Bennett. Drew Planten the perpetrator killed himself on prison.

 

[scandi]

Hi Floh, Taylor Behl was the case out of Raleigh that I was thinking about. I don't knopw anything about the case you mentioned, but if it was from this dept we're dealing with now it would be interesting to loook it up.

Thanks Scandi

PS: Thanks Charlie

 

[scandi]

Does anyone know for sure if Cassidy is with her father or with Michelles family?

Thanks Scandi

 

[leann coburn]

The Taylor Behl case was out of Richmond, Va. The Ben Fawley "I accidentally killed her" situation. Found on his ex-girlfriend's parents' farm? I think that was Richmond, because I was very interested in that situation.

I don't know who JY's lawyers are or if they are connected to the Duke case. If so, then that is a moronic decision. I tend to put credence in the fact that if JY had indeed killed Michelle, he wouldn't be free right now and he and his family certainly wouldn't have Cassidly with them. Most 2 and a half year olds I know would run away from their Daddy and scream and kick if they even had a feeling that he had hurt mommy. I keep my brother-in-law's 3 children often. They are 2 and a half, 4 and 5. You would be surprised what even the youngest one tells me. The oldest two are boys. The youngest is a girl Cassidy's age. Because she had two older bros and is a girl, she is as verbal at her age as we heard Cassidy being on the 911 tape. I know for a fact that if her father did anything to her mother that she wouldn't go to him. She is attached, at that age, mainly to her mom.

I say give the husband a chance. I firmly believe that someone in the immeadiate vicinity is the new focus of this investigation and that JY (as well as both families) are retaining their silence because of this. 15 years old? I can't say. But Scott Dyleski was only 16 when he was said to have killed Horowitz' wife Vitale. This new generation is a frightening thing. I know generations before me have said this about so many. But I really believe it about them. Such anger and bitterness and hatred we have never seen. And I think it's because they sense that they have no real future, unless they have planned for it for a long time.

Just MY rant and JMO

 

[scandi]

Hi Lean,

Richmond :banghead: Raleigh :banghead: LOL To this West Coaster you have to think twice to know the difference. I will have to pay more attention to details like that!

Anyhow, its good to see you Leann. And I hope it isn't Daddy. If it isn't it will be out of cinque with the charts in cases like this. I remember from SP's case, that besides medical problems from pregnancy which is #1 for the death of a mother while pregnant, the husband or lover is #2 with the killing of her. That is an astounding fact, and I don't think it has changed, though I haven't checked. I did read a blurb about it tho9ugh at CTV and it was the same acc to that poster's link.

I am hoping it is someone who was outside the family and had a bone to pick with Michelle. And I have this feeling that whomever it is LE is already on their tail but they have yet to polish the case so it is inditment ready!

I agree about this new generation because they are not THOUGHTFUL people for much of the part and with the little contact I have with them or read about on these forums. Self centered, and I can not understand yet what has prompted this phenom.

Even a dear one close to me who has had great care in her growth and development, has a way of cajoling the member of the family who has the money when something is needed that costs money! Yikes, sometimes I think the world is too much with us now!

Back to the stuffing, and hope you stick around through this case Leann. You have a very creative mind and your posts are always filled with meat! {Can you tell I am about to start on a pie at thie late hour of Midnight! }

Scandi

ETA: Here's that link: http://www.courttv.com/trials/peterson/090304_pregnantmurder_ctv.html

Snipet
. ."We already know that 42 percent of murdered women are killed by their intimate partners. What remains to be established is the link between spousal or intimate partner homicide and pregnancy," Brown said. "The rate of women being murdered by their husbands and boyfriends because of the pregnancy is a lot higher than the statistics could possibly prove. . . ."

 

[scandi]

Stephanie Renee Bennett. Drew Planten the perpetrator killed himself on prison.

I see what you mean Floh:

http://www.newsobserver.com/1036/story/501145.html

Snipet
" . .The case alarmed young women across Raleigh who, like Bennett, lived in apartment complexes, had seen or heard about peeping Toms and who waited more than three years for police to make an arrest in the case.

Drew Edward Planten was charged last fall. Planten, 35, hanged himself in January while awaiting a capital murder trial. . . .

. . .Planten once rented an apartment that was separated from Bennett's by a few hundred feet of woods. Police think he was seen looking into Bennett's window a few weeks before she was killed. . ."


Scandi

 

[otto]

I had another thought about rumour that the garage door opener was broken ... and the ladder in the garage. I didn't understand why the ladder was set up in the garage but it is just below where the garage opener chain hooks up to the door. Maybe the garage door was broken and the police disconnected it from the chain to be able to open or close it ... don't know.

 

[SewingDeb]

I had another thought about rumour that the garage door opener was broken ... and the ladder in the garage. I didn't understand why the ladder was set up in the garage but it is just below where the garage opener chain hooks up to the door. Maybe the garage door was broken and the police disconnected it from the chain to be able to open or close it ... don't know.

That's very possible. I know I've had to climb a ladder in the middle of my garage to put the thingy back on track so the door opener would work.

 

[otto]

That's very possible. I know I've had to climb a ladder in the middle of my garage to put the thingy back on track so the door opener would work.

I guess all we can do is sit back and wait for some new information to be released.

 

[Floh]

I guess all we can do is sit back and wait for some new information to be released.

Or say, "Time will tell.". or, "We'll have to wait and see." :doh:

 

[close_enough]

sooooo, nothing new....i REALLY thought we'd have heard of an arrest before this week was out, but............something is holding LE up on making an arrest...could be they haven't gotten all the evidence back from a lab???...could be they haven't gotten all the info, if any, off the Young's computer hard drive....very frustrating......this is like the Sara Walker case, where everything just went quiet, BUT the diff is, later on LE put a picture of a possible suspect out to the public, along with the make & model of a car ..... we haven't gotten that yet, in this case....LE isn't asking for help from the public.....until they do that again, i still think JY is the killer.....

OH, hope everyone had a nice day, yesterday

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

sooooo, nothing new....i REALLY thought we'd have heard of an arrest before this week was out, but............something is holding LE up on making an arrest...could be they haven't gotten all the evidence back from a lab???...could be they haven't gotten all the info, if any, off the Young's computer hard drive....very frustrating......this is like the Sara Walker case, where everything just went quiet, BUT the diff is, later on LE put a picture of a possible suspect out to the public, along with the make & model of a car ..... we haven't gotten that yet, in this case....LE isn't asking for help from the public.....until they do that again, i still think JY is the killer.....

OH, hope everyone had a nice day, yesterday

Hi close!

Just sat down and thought zacklee the same as you - lol - figured no one was here... Trust you had a good day too, yesterday!

Hmmmm. I do believe this was planned ... and I am most certainly waiting for another female or two to emerge: Some may say their finances were 'good' (or, fine ...). Aside from an insrance pay out - if JY was considering leaving his wife, or vice versa --------> reason enough to kill! Look at that millionaire guy who has been messing around quite a bit and his wife was shot and stabbed in their stables? He hired a hitman to do that one. And, as it transpired, she was 'sick of him'. He overdosed on the eve of his trial... :bang:

If Michelle left and had TWO kids - JY's alimony would not come cheap. If he divorced her (now or within a year) he'd look a right jerk to 'walk out' on a wonderful woman and 2 beautiful kids...

So, imo, win, lose or draw ... I still have JY as the perp!

Dashing, just called in to say hi and - to everyone else : Happy Holidays! Drive well, stay safe and .... ah, well - who cares: eat the lot!

 

[raisincharlie]

sooooo, nothing new....i REALLY thought we'd have heard of an arrest before this week was out, but............something is holding LE up on making an arrest...could be they haven't gotten all the evidence back from a lab???...could be they haven't gotten all the info, if any, off the Young's computer hard drive....very frustrating......this is like the Sara Walker case, where everything just went quiet, BUT the diff is, later on LE put a picture of a possible suspect out to the public, along with the make & model of a car ..... we haven't gotten that yet, in this case....LE isn't asking for help from the public.....until they do that again, i still think JY is the killer.....

OH, hope everyone had a nice day, yesterday

Close_enough,

Given the climate of the area (Duke again), I don't see the time involved here as a problem as of yet. It could well be that several lessons have been learned by prosecutors in the area. LE generally confers with the DA concerning the status of a case and basically has to show them enough evidence to show that a case that can be won. It is possible that not all the forensics are back - it has only been 3 weeks and this case will force LE to develop other strong evidence besides DNA and finerprints for example. The DA may be being very conservative, again dependent on the climate. The fact that LE has not been out again to ask for help tends to make me think they know the direction they need to pursue. JMO of course.

Hope you had a great holiday as well.

 

[Floh]

On page 3 of the holiday board for Michelle Young on ctv, just the facts has posted again. If just the facts is for real, they are telling us the dog that night possibly slept in Cassidy's room (apparently often did) and is old and arthritic and they believe the dog would have done it's best to protect Michelle. for some days after her death the dog was suffering from a sore head and side which indicates, to this poster, the dog had been kicked or hit.

and since the attack, the dog has been 'hyperresponsive' to strangers, particularly strange men. this dog has never exhibited this type of behaviour before.

i post this here with full understanding it may be from someone who has no insight to the case at all. but maybe they do?

 

[close_enough]

Hi close!

Just sat down and thought zacklee the same as you - lol - figured no one was here... Trust you had a good day too, yesterday!

Hmmmm. I do believe this was planned ... and I am most certainly waiting for another female or two to emerge: Some may say their finances were 'good' (or, fine ...). Aside from an insrance pay out - if JY was considering leaving his wife, or vice versa --------> reason enough to kill! Look at that millionaire guy who has been messing around quite a bit and his wife was shot and stabbed in their stables? He hired a hitman to do that one. And, as it transpired, she was 'sick of him'. He overdosed on the eve of his trial... :bang:

If Michelle left and had TWO kids - JY's alimony would not come cheap. If he divorced her (now or within a year) he'd look a right jerk to 'walk out' on a wonderful woman and 2 beautiful kids...

So, imo, win, lose or draw ... I still have JY as the perp!

Dashing, just called in to say hi and - to everyone else : Happy Holidays! Drive well, stay safe and .... ah, well - who cares: eat the lot!

i don't want to hear/read the word "eat".....!!!!.....LOL, i ate twice yesterday...i feel so guilty when i overeat like that, but it WAS good.....overdid the 'drink' a bit too, ugh....but i feel great today...2 of Dave's buddies are here right now, in the living room yakkin it up....

anywhoooo, yes i also still have JY as the perp.....
but if that's the case, something is holding everything up, as far as his arrest....gosh, maybe this WAS some totally random freak off the street....i'll be surprised, although i know i really shouldn't be...it's happened before :waitasec:

 

[close_enough]

Close_enough,

Given the climate of the area (Duke again), I don't see the time involved here as a problem as of yet. It could well be that several lessons have been learned by prosecutors in the area. LE generally confers with the DA concerning the status of a case and basically has to show them enough evidence to show that a case that can be won. It is possible that not all the forensics are back - it has only been 3 weeks and this case will force LE to develop other strong evidence besides DNA and finerprints for example. The DA may be being very conservative, again dependent on the climate. The fact that LE has not been out again to ask for help tends to make me think they know the direction they need to pursue. JMO of course.

Hope you had a great holiday as well.

oh raisin, i keep forgetting the Duke case, & yes this makes sense...taking their time.....i heard on NG the the other night that a "special" machine was purchased/borrowed for the case...no mention of what kind of machine....some folks over at ctv think it was to check all the drains in the house, BUT another poster...a new poster, BTW...1st post was that it's likely it's a special machine to analyze digital data (computer data).....LE is leaving no stone unturned, & i'm glad of that......

i agree w/your last comment also....if they were completely stumped at this point, they would be asking the public for more help.....

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

On page 3 of the holiday board for Michelle Young on ctv, just the facts has posted again. If just the facts is for real, they are telling us the dog that night possibly slept in Cassidy's room and is old and arthritic and they believe the dog would have done it's best to protect Michelle. for some days after her death the dog was suffering from a sore head and side which indicates, to this poster, the dog had been kicked or hit.

and since the attack, the dog has been 'hyperresponsive' to strangers, particularly strange men. this dog has never exhibited this type of behaviour before.

i post this here with full understanding it may be from someone who has no insight to the case at all. but maybe they do?

Hey Floh ....

Thanks for passing on the (ehem) latest...

Scuze me - BUT - the dog was suffering a sore head and side? Was it taken to a vet? Y'know, I maintain my belief that, as Meredith was (IMO) 'set-up' to find the body, maybe there is someone out there subtly trying to constantly put Meredith's words, actions and testimony under a microscope.

Meredith saud the dog was 'freaking out'. For Just the facts to continued to advise: "Meredith had a key, Meredith would have made sure she called by in accordance to her schedule; Meredith said it was a fax - it wasn't, it was a print-out. .. . Meredith this, Meredith that.... ".

This statement, if tru, would mean the dog would have been whining. It was 'freaking out'. The more these posts come in - the more I just roll me eyes.

Spinning to create a reasonable doubt that Meredith should be investigated, not Jason. However: JASON YOUNG WAS THE ONLY ONE to have a Judge issue probable cause and request him to submit to all requirements. Everybody else did so immediately and willingly...

JMHO, as always

 

[close_enough]

On page 3 of the holiday board for Michelle Young on ctv, just the facts has posted again. If just the facts is for real, they are telling us the dog that night possibly slept in Cassidy's room (apparently often did) and is old and arthritic and they believe the dog would have done it's best to protect Michelle. for some days after her death the dog was suffering from a sore head and side which indicates, to this poster, the dog had been kicked or hit.

and since the attack, the dog has been 'hyperresponsive' to strangers, particularly strange men. this dog has never exhibited this type of behaviour before.

i post this here with full understanding it may be from someone who has no insight to the case at all. but maybe they do?

i didn't know there was a "holiday board" over at ctv...might have to check it out.....& that's very interesting, Floh....IF it's the case about the dog....hmmm, who would know that the dog was old & arthritic??...hmmmm, poor dog

 

[raisincharlie]

On page 3 of the holiday board for Michelle Young on ctv, just the facts has posted again. If just the facts is for real, they are telling us the dog that night possibly slept in Cassidy's room (apparently often did) and is old and arthritic and they believe the dog would have done it's best to protect Michelle. for some days after her death the dog was suffering from a sore head and side which indicates, to this poster, the dog had been kicked or hit.

and since the attack, the dog has been 'hyperresponsive' to strangers, particularly strange men. this dog has never exhibited this type of behaviour before.

i post this here with full understanding it may be from someone who has no insight to the case at all. but maybe they do?

FWIW - I had a brief, well not so brief, exchange with jtf and quite honestly the conversation raised alot of red flags for me. Entirely too much protesting and too much "me", and entirely too defensive. Also comments about knowing the area where the accident occured - either this is someone way inside or it is someone darned well determined to issue statements deflecting attention, or both. They claim their silence is due to grief and suffering yet they are on a very public forum subjected to slings of arrows and keep on posting as long as people ask what they have defined as reasonable to answer but unwilling to "entertain" any other possibility. JMO - I'm not buying it.