Missing Cell Phones #2

[mrye4709]

No info on the type of phones :maddening: , how are they supposed to found?

 

[iamnotagolem]

MOO but basing my opinion on the picture of LI in front of the glass door, I personally think it looks like it is a smart phone that DB is using to take Lisa's picture. MOO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

So either the dumpster fire or the blob doesn't have anything to do with it. I don't think the perp would double back.

Well, "the perp" might double back...if he or she were returning to their house.

 

[Tuffy]

So either the dumpster fire or the blob doesn't have anything to do with it. I don't think the perp would double back.

Unless there is more than 1 perp... MOO

Or unless the other sightings aren't relevant, and the dumpster fire is! I guess at this point any, or all, or none of them could be related.

So little to go on at this point. :sigh:

 

[Tuffy]

No info on the type of phones :maddening: , how are they supposed to found?

Good point! How would anyone know if they did find the phones?

 

[MamaK]

LE might already have the phones for all we know.

 

[Evan's Mom]

You don't find it odd that: 1). the kidnapper takes the cell phones, 2). all 3 cell phones are conveniently placed together on a counter, so this kidnapper can grab them in one fell swoop on his way out the door 3). that this kidnapper somehow knew this was ALL the cell phones in the home 4). that the kidnapper would call someone he or she knew, knowing LE could probably trace that call to someone who knew the identity of the kidnapper and who might actually NAME him or her?

If I want to put a theory on these points, this is how I'd do it.
All hypothetical of course. I am still on the fence.

Kidnapper knows the family or knows of the family and knows they don't have land lines. Lots of people here have already said that they don't keep their phones in the bedroom by their bed like a lot of us and some have even said they keep them on the kitchen counter to charge, so it's not out of the question that this is also what the Bradwins did also. The kidnapper doesn't have to know that they kept them all together in the kitchen, all the kidnapper has to do is once he/she grabbed Lisa and was on their way out the door, passed the kitchen and noticed the phones and grabbed them as an afterthought to buy some time. Being a crazed out kidnapper, they either stupidly called MW's phone for whatever reason, or they butt dialed her. And when I say butt dialed, I've actually had my phone in my purse and have it hitting my hip enough times to call someone.

 

[Cher352]

Here is a good article(with pictures...LOL!) of how pinging works. The accuracy of the triangulation depends on how many cell towers the phone pings off of and whether the towers have directional antenni.

http://searchengineland.com/cell-phone-triangulation-accuracy-is-all-over-the-map-14790

Maybe a local can tell us how the reception is on the Irwin's street and how many cell towers are near by.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

MW now saying the call came at 8:30...so I'm just here to say, "Told ya so!". :crazy:

(Also, go to the msm thread for more info.)

 

[TobyWong*]

wow!

Please tell me MW spills all her ex" names.

I kept thinking that there's no way all these random sightings and dumpster fire could happen, like how dumb to do all that imo. But now I'm worrying that poor Lisa WAS carted around all night by a bunch of zombie druggies or something.

I just don't know what to think.

 

[Sigh Sister]

MW now saying the call came at 8:30...so I'm just here to say, "Told ya so!". :crazy:

(Also, go to the msm thread for more info.)

:rocker:

And some guessed that Jersey was MW's ex. Looks like they were right too.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

:rocker:

And some guessed that Jersey was MW's ex. Looks like they were right too.

I guessed that too, but blew it off because he's so much older. :crazy:

I should learn to trust my gut.

 

[mamamia54]

Here is a cell tower map of the area -
http://www.cellreception.com/towers/towers.php?city=kansas city&state_abr=mo

 

[jadejazzkayla]

:rocker:

And some guessed that Jersey was MW's ex. Looks like they were right too.

Why? did you read info not linked here regarding MW's ex?

 

[Sigh Sister]

Why? did you read info not linked here regarding MW's ex?

It's in the MSM thread. And I saw MW interviewed and she said they dated for 5 months and broke up 2 weeks before Lisa went missing.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Hey!!! :seeya:

Did y'all know that Websleuths has a chat room? Well, yeppers we do!

We kinda "relax" the rules just a weedle bit in there and its ALWAYS a good time.

Iffen you're curious here's how to get there:

Here's the link -

http://www.serenity-irc.net/connect/index.htm

You have to click on one of the 4 choices to connect with (I always use JAVA)
Click that and you'll get a sign on screen.
Just put in your nic and password
and then in the box with the "#" LEAVE THE # and type - Websleuths and then enter and bing bang pow - there ya are! (Sometimes it takes a bit for you to connect to the room - be patient).

I'll be in there for a while tonight - c'mon over and join me. :seeya:

 

[titanfan62702]

If I understood JVM correctly, there are 8-9 people who lived in the house with the person's whose phone got the call. How hard is it to identify those people and gather them in for a little talk?

Lisa's mother had that number written on her hand. She knows one of those people --- connect the dots.

 

[yllek]

If I understood JVM correctly, there are 8-9 people who lived in the house with the person's whose phone got the call. How hard is it to identify those people and gather them in for a little talk?

Lisa's mother had that number written on her hand. She knows one of those people --- connect the dots.

I think that's exactly what LE did, or is doing. There may be a connection between Debbi and MW and/or her housemates which is not related to Lisa's abduction. For all we know, MW and roomies have been ruled out. On the other hand, some of the roomies may come and go and be difficult to track under the radar. Jersey took a few days before he could be found for questioning.

If Debbi was talking to LE and filling in the "gaps and inconsistencies" in her time line, it would definitely assist in moving forward LE's investigation. But, no, Debbi is clammed up. Captain Young has said specifically that one of questions he has not been able to get answered to his satisfaction is about who may have been coming and going from the house that night. This all traces back to Debbi and she's attempting to roadblock LE, imo.

 

[matou]

I just finished skimming through everything whew, wow, just when I thought it couldn't get crazier, it just did. Someone posted in the MSM thread that the voicemail or call record was deleted? Did anyone catch that? That's why MW sounded like she had no idea that she had a call in the first place. Now I'm not sure the call went to voicemail at all. I'm confused now about this part.

 

[treeseeker]

Maybe there was an 8:30 call, and a 2:30 text?

Question: if you have a service, but it's not working because you haven't paid the bill, can you buy a phone card and use it in your phone?