Missing cell phones

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  • #641
IF AND I SAY IF-This phone call leads to Jersey's GF- my theory is-DB called her cell for Jersey to come help her and he went and the children saw him that night,I think this interview LE wanted to ask the children if they saw Jersey in the house that night and he went to help her and DB told him to get rid of phones OR DB called her cell looking for Jersey and he did not answer the phone,so she had to do the disposal by herself,but DB still made a call to him-so she got rid of phones..either way-DB does not want LE to know she made a call at 230 am and it was NOT to her husband!!!JMO
 
  • #642
If true that it lasted 50 seconds it would have been a call and not a text message.

MM hm. And if it reached her voice mail, was there a recording of sounds that can be enhanced in her messages?
 
  • #643
So piecing this together, JI and DB each had a cell phone. Likely on the same account.

DB's phone breaks so the only working phone is JI's. DB gets a phone from her father the day before. She claims that they are all on the counter because she is reprogramming information into the donated phone.

When the phones are taken she claims that 2 are working and one is broken. What does she mean by broken? Did it not even power up? Is she reprogramming information from JI's phone into the new donated phone? So now she's got two phones that power up but are they both now connected to the main account that is restricted? Could she do this by taking the sim card from her broken phone and using it in the new donated phone? If she did this, did she check the new donated phone to see if it could call out? And if was simply a sim card transfer, what would she have to "reprogram"?

Someone mentioned that only one would be restricted on certain carriers. If it was JI's that was the main phone and DB's was broken, then they would not have been able to use any phone until the donated phone was "hooked up". Unless they paid the bill, the carrier would not connect her new donated phone to the account would they? Or maybe they would? Anyone know this?

So if she simply transferred a sim card from her broken phone to the donated phone, the donated phone would instantly become the second phone? Which may have had service if the restriction was only on the main phone?

MW says she doesn't know the Irwins but the only way LE would know if her number is on the contact list for the phone that "called her" would be to have the physical phone or at least the sim card wouldn't it?

If DB made the call, perhaps to a wrong number, she wouldn't stay on the line for 50 seconds. And if she was trying to reach someone, she would have called the correct number after hanging up from the wrong one. If an intruder made the call, perhaps to the correct number then MW hopefully has given more info to LE than she is willing to give to the press. If she is connected to a family member somehow, and is not involved, I would hope she has forwarded this info on to them. If she is involved then I suppose we'll get more lying.

If it was a "pocket call" that went to this person's voicemail and was disconnected after 50 seconds, then the number was either programmed into the phone or in the most bizzare set of circumstances, it randomly dialed a local number.

Anyone have any thoughts about all this?

MOO
 
  • #644
Waittttttttt ....Dangit....hold the phones...!! How the heck did she know this was the stolen phone number??????????????????????????????????????????? Do we have that info???

She didn't. that quote had not been confirmed to come from MW, rather from a talking head on Fox News. MOO.
 
  • #645
If it was the intruder it has got to be a very stoned intruder. It would be rather stupid to steal the family's cell phones and then use them to call a close friend or acquaintance leaving a cell record through which you could be traced.
 
  • #646
Considering police interviewed her, I am guessing police told her.

But what led them to interview her? Phone records??? (Wish you could see me..literally shaking my head and throwing my hands up in the air with each post I read) Might be a good time to go do something else....
 
  • #647
IF AND I SAY IF-This phone call leads to Jersey's GF- my theory is-DB called her call for Jersey to come help her and he went and the children saw him that night,I think this interview LE wanted to ask the children if they saw Jersey in the house that night and he went to help her and DB told him to get rid of phones OR DB called her call looking for Jersey and he did not answer the phone,so she had to do the disposal by herself,but DB did not want to involve Jersey-so she got rid of phones..either way-DB does not want LE to know she made a call at 230 am and it was NOT to her husband!!!JMO

At this point, chances are HIGH that that phone number doesn't appear anywhere else in the history of the Irwin phone use.
 
  • #648
I had asked this in the other thread regarding comments about it being a possible pocket call.


How could it have been a pocket dial from the Irwin's phone? Wouldn't this woman's phone number needed to have been plugged into their phone in order to pocket dial it?

I've not heard of pocket dialing entire random phone numbers.
 
  • #649
But what led them to interview her? Phone records??? (Wish you could see me..literally shaking my head and throwing my hands up in the air with each post I read) Might be a good time to go do something else....

Well I am sure police got the phone records and I presume that's what led them to interview this lady. That doesn't sound strange to me at all.
 
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There is no longer a lake at Winn Road. Are you thinking of Winnwood Lake? If so, that was drained years ago, Target and Food Festival and the strip mall sit where the lake used to be.

Thank you!!!!
 
  • #652
I had asked this in the other thread regarding comments about it being a possible pocket call.


How could it have been a pocket dial from the Irwin's phone? Wouldn't this woman's phone number needed to have been plugged into their phone in order to pocket dial it?

I've not heard of pocket dialing entire random phone numbers.

You're right. It wasn't a pocket dial, since we now know MW doesn't know them. It was manually dialed. It seems.
 
  • #653
Don't un-answered calls show up as one minute calls?

Sometimes they do, I think thats if you make one, on your bill it would show up as such but then that would be 60 seconds. This was an actual call that lasted 50 seconds and went to voicemail.
 
  • #654
You're right. It wasn't a pocket dial, since we now know MW doesn't know them. It was manually dialed. It seems.

But her ex-boyfriend presumably knows someone in the area, otherwise why were she and her ex in the area?
 
  • #655
I had asked this in the other thread regarding comments about it being a possible pocket call.


How could it have been a pocket dial from the Irwin's phone? Wouldn't this woman's phone number needed to have been plugged into their phone in order to pocket dial it?

I've not heard of pocket dialing entire random phone numbers.

I've done it. Phone in pocket, sit down, numbers get hit when you sit, and voila, pocket dial, totally random number. However, IME, it is MUCH more common to pocket dial a number that already programmed in, but it doesn't have to be.
 
  • #656
I had asked this in the other thread regarding comments about it being a possible pocket call.


How could it have been a pocket dial from the Irwin's phone? Wouldn't this woman's phone number needed to have been plugged into their phone in order to pocket dial it?

I've not heard of pocket dialing entire random phone numbers.

You are correct, which is why it's probably very, very low probability that it was a pocket call.
 
  • #657
LaLaw, you should of learned from the Cooper trial that a cell phone does not ring for 50 seconds before VM kicks in. The real question is does the 50 seconds include the time the call was in VM (some carriers seperate the times between the 'ringing' call and then when it's gets picked up)


I remember the Cooper case very well, but all carriers are not the same, IMO.

I believe exactly what Judge Janine stated this morning because she said she got her information from her police source.

(BTW, good to 'see' you, cityslick.)
 
  • #658
If it was the intruder it has got to be a very stoned intruder. It would be rather stupid to steal the family's cell phones and then use them to call a close friend or acquaintance leaving a cell record through which you could be traced.

Well, we already can assume the intruder is a multi tasker. Intruder/kidnapper/burglar/making phone call/:crazy:
 
  • #659
Well, that could be precisely the reason. A red herring.

What exactly are the odds that they call a random number and it just happens to be someone in the neighborhood who's actually walked down their block before?

Someone should play the lottery.
 
  • #660
Could the phone number of this woman be similar to a phone number of a person known to DB? The number dialed was off by one or two numbers?

I'm not saying I believe this to be what happened, but I can see if I was in a frantic state and went to dial someones number, I might accidently punch it in incorrectly.
 
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