Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #10

[cherrymeg]

While she was around us and not around her normal friends she drank a little beer but I never saw her smoke any pot. All of my friends smoked a lot of pot but she never tried to fit in and smoke with us.

Did she have a group of friends that hasn't been brought up on here?

 

[Santachrist]

Did she have a group of friends that hasn't been brought up on here?

Not that I know of. Her life has been pretty dissected by the media, police and armchair investigators.
Stacey is a different story. Almost no information about her private life and when you bring it up it seems like people get offended and her private life is off limits.

 

[cherrymeg]

Not that I know of. Her life has been pretty dissected by the media, police and armchair investigators.
Stacey is a different story. Almost no information about her private life and when you bring it up it seems like people get offended and her private life is off limits.

It's weird how Stacy's life is still private after 26 years. I think the way Suzie and Sherrial are discussed makes you feel like you know them. If all three women were off limits like Stacy I wonder if people would still be talking about their case.

 

[asyousay]

Not that I know of. Her life has been pretty dissected by the media, police and armchair investigators.
Stacey is a different story. Almost no information about her private life and when you bring it up it seems like people get offended and her private life is off limits.

Maybe she didn’t have much of a private life?

She was still only 18 from a good family ( by the sounds of it) and only just left school.

Suzie’s mistake unfortunately are public record and considering this happened because Stacey more than likely was in the wrong place at the wrong time then people are more protective towards her it would seem. Stacey had her family speaking out for her from the get go.

Bart was a mess so he could hardly do much to protect the family’s image IMO

 

[cherrymeg]

Maybe she didn’t have much of a private life?

She was still only 18 from a good family ( by the sounds of it) and only just left school.

Suzie’s mistake unfortunately are public record and considering this happened because Stacey more than likely was in the wrong place at the wrong time then people are more protective towards her it would seem. Stacey had her family speaking out for her from the get go.

Bart was a mess so he could hardly do much to protect the family’s image IMO

That sounds kind of harsh. Sherrill could have been the one in the wrong place at the wrong time. We don't know, but we should probably keep an open mind.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Maybe she didn’t have much of a private life?

She was still only 18 from a good family ( by the sounds of it) and only just left school.

Suzie’s mistake unfortunately are public record and considering this happened because Stacey more than likely was in the wrong place at the wrong time then people are more protective towards her it would seem. Stacey had her family speaking out for her from the get go.

Bart was a mess so he could hardly do much to protect the family’s image IMO

Stacy also had her parents there to protect her memory. Suzie did not have that. I really think people were afraid to upset Mrs. McCall. I can understand that to an extent, but stil is not fair.

 

[asyousay]

That sounds kind of harsh. Sherrill could have been the one in the wrong place at the wrong time. We don't know, but we should probably keep an open mind.

From reading around nobody I have seen suggests Stacey had anything to do with this crime.

Even the police think that so it may seem harsh but that’s the reality of this crime.


Stacey 99% of the time would never of been at that home so it makes sense she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


At no point have I said Sherill and Suzie deserved this but the facts remain that this boils down to them two as it was their home. Nobody planning to hurt Stacey would go to the Streeters to do that it doesn’t add up.

 

[asyousay]

Stacy also had her parents there to protect her memory. Suzie did not have that. I really think people were afraid to upset Mrs. McCall. I can understand that to an extent, but stil is not fair.

Yes the family could protect Stacey whereas Bart was limited due to his own demons and the fact he was even questioned and considered a suspect at 1 point.

Stacey had the perfect girl next door image and that helped protect her.

IMO

 

[cherrymeg]

From reading around nobody I have seen suggests Stacey had anything to do with this crime.

Even the police think that so it may seem harsh but that’s the reality of this crime.


Stacey 99% of the time would never of been at that home so it makes sense she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


At no point have I said Sherill and Suzie deserved this but the facts remain that this boils down to them two as it was their home. Nobody planning to hurt Stacey would go to the Streeters to do that it doesn’t add up.

I was thinking more that Suzie and Stacey could have attracted the attention of some perv that was at a party or visiting a relative. A guy or guys could have followed the two girls home.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Yes the family could protect Stacey whereas Bart was limited due to his own demons and the fact he was even questioned and considered a suspect at 1 point.

Stacey had the perfect girl next door image and that helped protect her.

IMO

You also have to look at the time period. This was the same time period of The West Memphis Three fiasco. It also was a time when people did not look at divorced woman in the best light. Depending on the person’s perspective her just getting a divorce could of been a poor choice in their mind.

 

[intothenight]

It is disappointing how the media in particular span this case to paint Sherrill and Suzie's life choices as being some sort of catalyst for what happened to them - not in all cases, but in most coverage I've seen that has been the case. As mentioned already, it's just unfortunate they didn't have anyone to represent them in the same way that Stacy did. That's not to put down Bartt or Sherrill's sister, but the media seemed to latch onto Janis, who I have to say, has handled everything really well. She keeps her daughter's memory alive, but she doesn't make this case all about Stacy.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

It is disappointing how the media in particular span this case to paint Sherrill and Suzie's life choices as being some sort of catalyst for what happened to them - not in all cases, but in most coverage I've seen that has been the case. As mentioned already, it's just unfortunate they didn't have anyone to represent them in the same way that Stacy did. That's not to put down Bartt or Sherrill's sister, but the media seemed to latch onto Janis, who I have to say, has handled everything really well. She keeps her daughter's memory alive, but she doesn't make this case all about Stacy.

My comments definitely were nothing against Mrs. McCall she did what any mother would of done. Unfortunately Sherill and Suzie did not have that. I know Bartt and Sherrill’s sister tried their best, but there is only so much they can do. The news outlets found their angle and it is hard to change that.

 

[Ozoner]

The one thing we know is the front door wasn’t forced.

So in the early hours of the morning why would Sherill open the front door to a stranger?

No single mother would willingly open a door to a stranger so that means that it was somebody Suzie or she knew and they felt safe opening the door.

LE never mentioned any signs of forced entry into the home elsewhere either.

Was there a screen door on the front of the house? The front door could have been left open for ventilation. My house is locked up good and tight when I'm away, but I don't worry about locking the doors when I'm at home and awake. It's known that Sherrill was refinishing furniture, so she had a compelling reason to have the doors and windows open.

I was thinking more that Suzie and Stacey could have attracted the attention of some perv that was at a party or visiting a relative. A guy or guys could have followed the two girls home.

One of the cops who broke up the graduation party could've followed the girls home. This crime would have been child's play for a cop to pull off.
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I tend to believe the sighting of a split-windshield Dodge van. I can't speak to how common those might have been in Missouri, but here in Michigan those could pretty much only be found at classic car shows by 1992. And we know that Ricky Dykes and his wife had one.

 

[Santachrist]

Don't know of the phone call. Seems to be a big concern of yours though …???

What about the newspapers that reported that Mary Keller (your wife, right?) talked on the phone with Sherrill on June 5th 1992? Were they lying, or are you?

My apologies Dale. It only says Mary spoke with Sherrill on the 5th. I guess it was in person and not on the phone. A small but inportant distinction.

I would think that ANY conversation with any of the victims the day before they disappeared would be potentially important information and relevant, correct? Why the resistance?

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Guys who just follow girls home from a party don't usually have a big van and weapons and strength to subdue three women. That's not the MO of a sexual predator.

FBI suggests multiple perps anyways. I think it's safe to rule out the "followed them home" theory.

This crime was not random and unplanned.

 

[cherrymeg]

Guys who just follow girls home from a party don't usually have a big van and weapons and strength to subdue three women. That's not the MO of a sexual predator.

FBI suggests multiple perps anyways. I think it's safe to rule out the "followed them home" theory.

Have you been followed home?

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Guys who just follow girls home from a party don't usually have a big van and weapons and strength to subdue three women. That's not the MO of a sexual predator.

FBI suggests multiple perps anyways. I think it's safe to rule out the "followed them home" theory.

This crime was not random and unplanned.

I would think one gun is all someone would need. Some people carry that on them all the time or keep one in their car.

 

[asyousay]

I would think one gun is all someone would need. Some people carry that on them all the time or keep one in their car.

Due to the layout of the house I definitely think it took more than 1 persona and more than 1 gun.

How does a person control 1 person with a gun when he then has to subdue two other women and will put up a fight?

The bedrooms were not close to each to other so it would be very difficult to be one person with one gun to pull this off. IMO

If Sherill or Suzie answered the door then Stacey had no reason to go to the door. So then that’s a victim they have to try and grab whiles trying to contain the other two. That doesn’t seem easy.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Due to the layout of the house I definitely think it took more than 1 persona and more than 1 gun.

How does a person control 1 person with a gun when he then has to subdue two other women and will put up a fight?

The bedrooms were not close to each to other so it would be very difficult to be one person with one gun to pull this off. IMO

If Sherill or Suzie answered the door then Stacey had no reason to go to the door. So then that’s a victim they have to try and grab whiles trying to contain the other two. That doesn’t seem easy.

Threatening to shoot the one if the other two move would do it for me.

 

[Santachrist]

Due to the layout of the house I definitely think it took more than 1 persona and more than 1 gun.

How does a person control 1 person with a gun when he then has to subdue two other women and will put up a fight?

The bedrooms were not close to each to other so it would be very difficult to be one person with one gun to pull this off. IMO

If Sherill or Suzie answered the door then Stacey had no reason to go to the door. So then that’s a victim they have to try and grab whiles trying to contain the other two. That doesn’t seem easy.

Newspaper reports say the beds looked like they had been slept in. Not hard to subdue if they were sleeping.