Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #7

[k-mac]

There is something off about her behavior. Janelle waited in the house and answered the phone. It sounded like she saw the purses and noticed a TV on, where did she think they were? Sherrill wasn't supposed to be at the water park and they showed up early in the morning. Even if Janelle thought they got a ride with someone else despite how everything was left, wouldn't she have expected the mom to come home?

exactly cherrymeg

how did they know sherrill wasn't next door having a cup of tea with the neighbour??

it was not in their place to do anything.
so they loiter without permission in someones home they haven't been to before.....decide what looks normal and what doesn't.....feel creeped out and decide to leave.....only to have the phone ring as your stepping out.... twice!....(just to be sure) with a sexual deviate on the other end saying really vulgare things to you ……
but don't alert the police...neighbours....other parents etc
we'll spend the day STALLING the inevitable.

last one to see the girls...first on the seen....

but not the one to call police

 

[MooseMeMuch]

rsbm
I remember moose it was being talked about extensively a couple of years ago.
it is VERY hard to go through the threads as there is soooooooooooooooooooo much pointless jargon and red herrings its a needle hay stack situation because somewhere along the line actual evidence became illogical to here

but it is here!!
hopefully this thread.

could only be something thrown around on websleuths however because I am not finding it on the web?.... although my technical sleuthing does leave a lot to be desired!

its a pretty solid piece of evidence if we can dig it out [/QUOTE]

I'm thinking (oh no!) that I also read it on that FB group I mentioned earlier and it was related by a woman who graduated from Kickapoo HS (don't quote me...my memory stinks!)

No digging necessary because it sounds logical and within reason.

 

[scadagirl28]

This is the most thorough article of the day so far .

 

[MooseMeMuch]

exactly cherrymeg

how did they know sherrill wasn't next door having a cup of tea with the neighbour??

it was not in their place to do anything.
so they loiter without permission in someones home they haven't been to before.....decide what looks normal and what doesn't.....feel creeped out and decide to leave.....only to have the phone ring as your stepping out.... twice!....(just to be sure) with a sexual deviate on the other end saying really vulgare things to you ……
but don't alert the police...neighbours....other parents etc
we'll spend the day STALLING the inevitable.

last one to see the girls...first on the seen....

but not the one to call police

Man. When you put it that way............case closed. Janelle KNOWS who took the women or has a mighty fine idea as to who dunnit.
SPD needs to give her a poly and really set on her...she has to know who did this or have a good idea. She spent time (did things) with Stacy and Suzie, separately which would mean more intimate conversations would have taken place vs when all 3 were together. Stands to reason, she 'has to' know something. This was not 'random'.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

This is the most thorough article of the day so far .

hmmm, Janelle...."... (I) should have gone with them. Maybe I could have made a difference."
hmmmmm in MOO....what an odd thing to say.

J called the Suzie's house....'maybe a dozen times'....... (OCD?)

Already found a discrepancy.....first article, says that Janelle called Janis at 1 p.m. to tell her Stacy slept and Suzies and also gave Janis the new phone number. Huh? That's not the way Janis related it on a video...she called the Kirby house and a sister (of Janelle's) told her Stacy was at Suzie's.

 

[k-mac]

a small stain of stacy's blood found , probably when she was dragged barefoot and stepped on the glass.

rsbm
ok blue girl1991 come back!
we need to talk about this damn blood !

about page 41 this thread is all that I have come across.
I know i have seen it extensively talked about here.

moose you should remember help me out here lmao x

 

[scadagirl28]

that bed is staged.
no one has slept in that.
the covers have been thrown back.

why?
stager wants police to think someone as sleeping.
guessing to create the idea that the disappearance happened much later into the morning.

That is because it is staged. They asked everyone who went through the house to recreate the crime scene as they saw it that day. Mrs. Mccall took Stacy's clothes and purse home.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

rsbm
ok blue girl1991 come back!
we need to talk about this damn blood !

about page 41 this thread is all that I have come across.
I know i have seen it extensively talked about here.

moose you should remember help me out here lmao x[/QUOT

wow! you did some diggin today! good job Mac!

 

[MooseMeMuch]

That is because it is staged. They asked everyone who went through the house to recreate the crime scene as they saw it that day. Mrs. Mccall took Stacy's clothes and purse home.

so the main idea is.....Sherrill had been to bed that evening....

 

[MooseMeMuch]

As far as we know stacy tried to escape and actually she was dragged out of the house so I assume that at least one perp had to do it and at least one perp had to keep his eyes on Suzie and Sherrill ( or just Suzie, maybe sherrill wasn't alive at this point) ,
so we are talking at least on 2 persons who kidnapped the 3 women ,if Suzie's testimony wasn't needed then I could not ruled out that maybe persons from the party came after them or other stalkers but becouse the testimony date was very close then I still believe that the crime connects somehow to Suzie's testimony,I just don't think it is a Coincidence, it's looks like a hit which ordered by someone when the purpose is to prevent the testimony and make the women disappear.

Interesting....Stacy tried to escape? And isn't that a frightening image...

Hello! Blue Girl1991 (are you a 1991 Kickapoo graduate?)

 

[cherrymeg]

exactly cherrymeg

how did they know sherrill wasn't next door having a cup of tea with the neighbour??

it was not in their place to do anything.
so they loiter without permission in someones home they haven't been to before.....decide what looks normal and what doesn't.....feel creeped out and decide to leave.....only to have the phone ring as your stepping out.... twice!....(just to be sure) with a sexual deviate on the other end saying really vulgare things to you ……
but don't alert the police...neighbours....other parents etc
we'll spend the day STALLING the inevitable.

last one to see the girls...first on the seen....

but not the one to call police

Why wouldn't she have called Stacy's house? If she was looking for her friends wouldn't she call or stop by the other house when she realized no one was at Suzie's? Janelle calling Suzie "that girl" or something along those lines made it sound like they weren't close. If that was true why would she feel comfortable going into her home?

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Why wouldn't she have called Stacy's house? If she was looking for her friends wouldn't she call or stop by the other house when she realized no one was at Suzie's? Janelle calling Suzie "that girl" or something along those lines made it sound like they weren't close. If that was true why would she feel comfortable going into her home?

Good call...Janelle's actions and conflicting statements makes my head explode.

 

[asyousay]

so the main idea is.....Sherrill had been to bed that evening....

Which is totally logical considering the time frame.

The more I read the more I just can not believe how stupid people were that day.

You look at the list of names who walked though that house that had absolutely no right to do so and you think “huh” like seriously what was wrong with these people!!

How about leaving a note on the front door saying “ we are frantically looking for you all and worried sick please contact us straight away when you get this note”

I was only 5 years of age in 1992 but I fail to see how people didn’t processes common sense back then.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Which is totally logical considering the time frame.

The more I read the more I just can not believe how stupid people were that day.

You look at the list of names who walked though that house that had absolutely no right to do so and you think “huh” like seriously what was wrong with these people!!

How about leaving a note on the front door saying “ we are frantically looking for you all and worried sick please contact us straight away when you get this note”

I was only 5 years of age in 1992 but I fail to see how people didn’t processes common sense back then.

Exactly and lead investigator (Neal) believes it wasn't contaminated on purpose. I'm not so sure...glad he's 'positive' but IMO, how foolish to not consider EVERY possibility. It seems to be a rock never turned over...sure they talked to people at the party and revisit them (over the years) but it's to see if they remember any small detail...huh?
I keep saying this......they desperately need to contact "Cold Justice" I believe the team would figure it out! Get John Bonds, the best interrogator EVER. He's talked to a LOT of killers. sigh
Anybody know Bartt personally? Or Sherrill's sister? The family needs to nudge SPD.

 

[asyousay]

Exactly and lead investigator (Neal) believes it wasn't contaminated on purpose. I'm not so sure...glad he's 'positive' but IMO, how foolish to not consider EVERY possibility. It seems to be a rock never turned over...sure they talked to people at the party and revisit them (over the years) but it's to see if they remember any small detail...huh?
I keep saying this......they desperately need to contact "Cold Justice" I believe the team would figure it out! Get John Bonds, the best interrogator EVER. He's talked to a LOT of killers. sigh
Anybody know Bartt personally? Or Sherrill's sister? The family needs to nudge SPD.

I was reading on the Facebook group somebody recommended on here and a few posts claim LE won’t hand over any files to do any kind of a cold case review.

It makes me wonder if they are concerned about how botched the case was and the fallout that could follow.

I am amazed that Stacey’s Mum and Dad who are in their 70’s don’t get a private detective as if I was that age I wouldn’t want to go to grave not knowing what had happened to my child. I can not imagine the pain and suffering they have gone though in the last 25 years.

 

[cherrymeg]

Exactly and lead investigator (Neal) believes it wasn't contaminated on purpose. I'm not so sure...glad he's 'positive' but IMO, how foolish to not consider EVERY possibility. It seems to be a rock never turned over...sure they talked to people at the party and revisit them (over the years) but it's to see if they remember any small detail...huh?
I keep saying this......they desperately need to contact "Cold Justice" I believe the team would figure it out! Get John Bonds, the best interrogator EVER. He's talked to a LOT of killers. sigh
Anybody know Bartt personally? Or Sherrill's sister? The family needs to nudge SPD.

That is my show! Someone needs to contact them.

 

[asyousay]

I have a question for some of the long term posters on here. I can see some posters have been on various other forums talking about the case for at least the last 5 years.

Has anybody tried to speak to any of the main players in this case to clear up some of the facts?

I know Bart used to post on here for example so surely stuff like empty photo frames on the walls, Stacey leaving behind a bloody foot print , why have these rumours never been cleared up?

 

[asyousay]

I just spotted another inconsistency with Janelle’s story. For some reason it’s only just hit me.

Stacey’s purse was lined with the other purses so why would Stacey of left behind her purse with her money and cards in it. This is something that should of hit Janelle in the face straight away along with her car and her clothing being in the bedroom. So according to Janelle’s logic that morning - Stacey left that house with no money/purse, no footwear, no car and no shorts.

How many passes is Janelle allowed before her entire story should be looked over?!


ETA - Mike also picked up Janelle that morning so I wonder if he has alibi as he didn’t spend the night at Janelle’s house.

 

[Blue Girl1991]

rsbm
ok blue girl1991 come back!
we need to talk about this damn blood !

about page 41 this thread is all that I have come across.
I know i have seen it extensively talked about here.

moose you should remember help me out here lmao x

k-mac
I wish I could remember where exactly I read about stacy's blood spot.I believe that if I will start to read all the 6 threads again including all thread 7 in order to search regarding the blood spot.. Until I finish, the case might be probably resolved

Interesting....Stacy tried to escape? And isn't that a frightening image...

Hello! Blue Girl1991 (are you a 1991 Kickapoo graduate?)

I can't imagine the horror ,especially when we know that both Stacy and Suzie were ready to go to bad and hell just burst in surprise.

I think the key to solve the case is found by the police and this is the name of the only person who failed the polygraph , the release of his name can bring tips and maybe people will talk.

There is a possibility that the police almost sure that this person is one of the perps or one of the people who had connection to the perps,
This is why after 26 years it's time to go ahead and say to the press and to the public who is that person, to think that the police actually maybe had already one of the criminals in her hands and this person was released to continue in his life and enjoy from freedom and family lives when the Sherrill, Stacy and Suzie can't... that's unbearable.

A pressure on the police from the families and from the public might bring the police to finally release the person name, then I believe this case will have a huge boost that might lead to Justice and Closure.

MooseMeMuch, I understand that kickapoo is a High School in Springfield? , I am not from there, I am From a very distant continent, My high school was in Tel Aviv ,the city where I live

 

[Missouri Mule]

Someone asked if anyone had been in touch with any principals. I’ve had many discussions with Bartt and Mike along with many others. Garrison called my home one morning. I don’t think he or the others had anything to do with it.

Personally, I think these are dry holes. If I had any sway I would recommend extensive discussions with a single male who was described as the “kidnapper.”

I interpret that to mean one male person. I know such an individual and assume the police know as well.

I rule out the kids, the grave robbers, and the so-called “Grand Jury 3.” I don’t see Bartt kidnapping his own mother and sister.

Truth is that we are running out of suspects and no known motive.

I think it was one male who carried out the whole crime. I also believe he has posted here in the past. But that is my personal opinion. I could be entirely wrong and only care that the crime is solved.