Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #7

[Missouri Mule]

Why can't you name the person?

My pockets are not deep enough to support a lawsuit if I am wrong. We are not talking about someone who has ever been discussed. But I am certain he follows this case very, very closely.

I am relatively certain the police have his name but insufficient evidence to bring an indictment.

 

[cherrymeg]

My pockets are not deep enough to support a lawsuit if I am wrong. We are not talking about someone who has ever been discussed. But I am certain he follows this case very, very closely.

I am relatively certain the police have his name but insufficient evidence to bring an indictment.

Why do you suspect this person? Or why does your source? Did they have a history of violence? Were they a neighbor a friend someone linked to one or more of the women. Is this person known to the police?

 

[asyousay]

My pockets are not deep enough to support a lawsuit if I am wrong. We are not talking about someone who has ever been discussed. But I am certain he follows this case very, very closely.

I am relatively certain the police have his name but insufficient evidence to bring an indictment.

So would this person be included in the 10/12 suspects LE had back in the day?

 

[cherrymeg]

So would this person be included in the 10/12 suspects LE had back in the day?

This feels live a crime version of Guess Who?

 

[k-mac]

The single perp came from the last official police statement. “Kidnapper.” That is one person.

My source did not know everything except the name of the suspect who he said he had surveillance over a 10 year period. A lot of people believed and still believe there were multiple perps.

If one rules out the obvious suspects and there is no one left it follows the perp was unknown then.

I won’t name him as that would be irresponsible but it is whatI believe at this time.

But I won’t be devastated if I am proved wrong. I just want it solved.

lol exactly
samesame nothing nothing

 

[Catmommy]

My theory involves very primal feelings acted upon and behavior that known suspects in other crimes have exhibited following their crimes as has my suspect. I have no insider knowledge. My view isn't popular. I am not threatened by other opposing views. What I am threatened by is the thought that this disappearance will never be solved and no one will be brought to justice. These ladies didn't leave on their own and someone knows what happened to them.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Why do you suspect this person? Or why does your source? Did they have a history of violence? Were they a neighbor a friend someone linked to one or more of the women. Is this person known to the police?

I believe I said they knew him. I do not know of my source suspected the same person. He refused to tell me.

I think the suspect may be coming unglued these days.

What I keep coming back to there is no discernible motive. And no one has rolled. Eliminate the obvious suspects, who is left?

I have no dog in this hunt.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Delete, dup post.

 

[TedMac]

He has never been discussed as a suspect.

OK. I concede He has never been discussed as a suspect. Not looking for a name, but you stated the following "He had the actual name, who, I believe, is likely the same individual who I believe is the one who murdered these women."

That being said, I will repeat my original request: "is this person a local or was he a random stranger to the 3 missing women? Finally, what was his motive and if there is DNA, could he not be linked to it?..."

 

[TedMac]

OK. I concede He has never been discussed as a suspect. Not looking for a name, but you stated the following "He had the actual name, who, I believe, is likely the same individual who I believe is the one who murdered these women."

That being said, I will repeat my original request: "is this person a local or was he a random stranger to the 3 missing women? Finally, what was his motive and if there is DNA, could he not be linked to it?..."

While I was typing the above post, you answered some of my questions. Still curious why you think the DNA could not be linked to him?

 

[Missouri Mule]

My theory involves very primal feelings acted upon and behavior that known suspects in other crimes have exhibited following their crimes as has my suspect. I have no insider knowledge. My view isn't popular. I am not threatened by other opposing views. What I am threatened by is the thought that this disappearance will never be solved and no one will be brought to justice. These ladies didn't leave on their own and someone knows what happened to them.

I like your “primal feelings” as a theory. I believe that is close to the truth. It is certainly a valid motive. And what better time to act on those feelings when the kids are out celebrating?

 

[asyousay]

I still think there is a reason whoever did this choose that night.

From the little we know it seems likely everybody was home and safe in bed when whatever happened went down.

So if we take it at face value that the house was being watched for weeks ( rumours of a white van) then why would you see 3 cars and think “tonight is the night”?!

 

[Betty P]

I didn’t realise Nigel was a girl as in the UK that’s a boys name

I am wondering if something went down in the living room. Bart mentioned in the disappeared special that Sherrill would take her cigarettes room to room as she was a chain smoker.

So I’m assuming if she was in bed that night the cigarettes were with her and even if they was in the living room (which Bartt said would be weird) then Suzie at 3am wouldn’t of taken hers out of her purse to put them next to her mums as that’s plan weird.

So why would a rapists/murder take the time to line up the cigarettes in the living room to stage the crime scene? I am assuming a conversation went down in the living room & being in a stressful situation the woman wanted to smoke hence the cigarettes making there way to that room.

Sorry to pop in the middle of the discussion here. I'm glad the discussion has been renewed a little, with people looking at more angles.

Why was the tv on when Janelle went into the home? If it appeared that the women had been in bed when the crime/kidnapping occurred, why would the tv be on in the living room? Were they not actually in bed at the time of abduction? Seems unlikely the killer would have awakened them, taken them to the living room, turned on the tv and let them all have a smoke.

 

[Betty P]

Not to my knowledge.

This may be irrelevant, but was there any possible connection between people the grave robbers knew and whomever Janelle or her friends may have bought drugs from? I keep coming back to the idea that there may have been a drug dealer(s) hanging around the parties that night. The high school graduation parties that night were a big social event for the young folks. Kids with money may have been looking to buy some pot or coke or something for the celebration, so the dealers may have been hanging around the periphery.

 

[Betty P]

You may be correct or close to it.
We just know (positively) their cars made it to Sherrill's. We have to trust LE's expertise that the girls made it to the house safely.
But (Suzie's friend) Nigel did state the cars were not in their usual places. Suzie's car was typically under the carport area. 99.9% positive Nigel said the cars were headed in the wrong direction. I feel Nigel's observations were.......ignored in favor of Janelle's version.

We know from photos that Sherrill's car was parked in the carport that night. If Suzie usually parked her car there, is it possible that Sherrill knew both girls were coming home to stay, so moved her car to the carport to leave room in the driveway for the other two cars? She would have known that the girls planned to get up early in the morning to leave for Branson, so maybe did this so no one's cars would be blocked in. Was Sherrill scheduled to work the next morning? If so, what time did she leave for work? Would she have needed to tell the girls to leave room behind her car to make sure she could get out? If there was some advance communication about car parking, it could indicate the girls had talked to Sherrill and had let her know they were both going to spend the night there.

 

[Missouri Mule]

We know from photos that Sherrill's car was parked in the carport that night. If Suzie usually parked her car there, is it possible that Sherrill knew both girls were coming home to stay, so moved her car to the carport to leave room in the driveway for the other two cars? She would have known that the girls planned to get up early in the morning to leave for Branson, so maybe did this so no one's cars would be blocked in. Was Sherrill scheduled to work the next morning? If so, what time did she leave for work? Would she have needed to tell the girls to leave room behind her car to make sure she could get out? If there was some advance communication about car parking, it could indicate the girls had talked to Sherrill and had let her know they were both going to spend the night there.

These are logical questions that one hopes the police cleared up immediately.

There is no evidence I am aware of that Sherrill had advance knowledge they were coming home that night.

What reason is there to ever block in any car? The driveway was long enough to accommodate several cars.

Personally I doubt she had any any idea they were coming. Suzie, seeing Sherrill’s car in the carport would logically have parked out of the way of Sherrill’s car.

Although I have no dog in this hunt, in the absence other evidence to the contrary I believe a single perp merely followed the girls home and lured Suzie out of the house and Sherrill came out to check on the commotion. Things spiraled out of control and the perp realizing there had to be a third person went into the house with a gun and dragged Stacy out to the car. Sometime that day, he murdered them in cold blood.

Bottom line is his freedom was worth more than the lives of three innocent women.

If I am wrong, so be it. Just want the case solved.

 

[cherrymeg]

We know from photos that Sherrill's car was parked in the carport that night. If Suzie usually parked her car there, is it possible that Sherrill knew both girls were coming home to stay, so moved her car to the carport to leave room in the driveway for the other two cars? She would have known that the girls planned to get up early in the morning to leave for Branson, so maybe did this so no one's cars would be blocked in. Was Sherrill scheduled to work the next morning? If so, what time did she leave for work? Would she have needed to tell the girls to leave room behind her car to make sure she could get out? If there was some advance communication about car parking, it could indicate the girls had talked to Sherrill and had let her know they were both going to spend the night there.

That makes sense. Were they able to check phone records? I know they said Sherrill talked to a friend on the phone around 11 or 11:30 that night. If Suzie called or left a message there wouldn't be any proof.

 

[cherrymeg]

These are logical questions that one hopes the police cleared up immediately.

There is no evidence I am aware of that Sherrill had advance knowledge they were coming home that night.

What reason is there to ever block in any car? The driveway was long enough to accommodate several cars.

Personally I doubt she had any any idea they were coming. Suzie, seeing Sherrill’s car in the carport would logically have parked out of the way of Sherrill’s car.

Although I have no dog in this hunt, in the absence other evidence to the contrary I believe a single perp merely followed the girls home and lured Suzie out of the house and Sherrill came out to check on the commotion. Things spiraled out of control and the perp realizing there had to be a third person went into the house with a gun and dragged Stacy out to the car. Sometime that day, he murdered them in cold blood.

Bottom line is his freedom was worth more than the lives of three innocent women.

If I am wrong, so be it. Just want the case solved.

Why are you discouraging people to ask questions or suggest different ideas. If you want the case solved and you think you know who did it give clear clues. Also you haven't said why you suspect a certain person. I feel like you are just playing a game.

 

[Betty P]

That makes sense. Were they able to check phone records? I know they said Sherrill talked to a friend on the phone around 11 or 11:30 that night. If Suzie called or left a message there wouldn't be any proof.

I don't usually go off on tangents on cold cases, but am willing to consider Sherill did communicate with them, knew they both planned to come back that night. Maybe when it got late she did go out looking for them. I have a hard time understanding why she would get up and put on a dress to check on the girls when they came home, seems she would put on a bathrobe or something. She would put on her dress if she was going to get in the car and drive somewhere.

Reading the accounts of the convenience store worker, maybe Sherrill did come in looking for them. Maybe one or both of the girls left with some unsavory characters that night to "party" some more. As the saying goes, nothing good happens after midnight and it could be the unsupervised graduation parties at 2 am attracted some older, rougher party goers. Maybe Sherrill did find them at another party and made a scene, or maybe she took them home and the rough characters followed them there. Maybe their high school friends behaved oddly, changed stories because they didn't want to be implicated or were afraid of the rough characters.

Reading the old articles on this, the last time anyone besides their HS friends saw them was at the party on E. Hanover St., the one the cops broke up. Maybe we should question any testimony after that.

 

[asyousay]

The woman from the convenience store I am sure come forward and it wasn’t Sherrill.

But I’m intrigued that the woman and men seen at George’s never came forward if it wasn’t the 3 woman.

I don’t know why as LE said it wasn’t true but I still think George’s could of happened. If the Waitress knew them from previous visits why would she of gotten confused and why did the woman who were there never come forward?

I think it’s possible the girls got home and were still on a high from graduation and the parties and decided to go out for some food and Sherrill went with them.